Iron Man 2 Discussion Thread

[hairlesswookiee]

The Mike is now my favorite Iron Man reference, as well as my favorite porn expert.

He's also an expert in regards to everything Green Lantern.

 

[ChaserFan]

They did. It was great to see it on the big screen.

I'm mad now!

Oh well, all the more reason to go see SH again.

 

[The Mike]

The Mike is now my favorite Iron Man reference, as well as my favorite porn expert.

He's also an expert in regards to everything Green Lantern.

Can't help it. I love them all.

You guys are too flattering and you both rock.

 

[The Mike]

While we all kind of predicted it, Favreau confirmed via his Twitter that Iron Man 2 takes place before The Incredible Hulk. So that would destroy any possibility of a Norton Banner cameo since he'd be hiding out in Brazil theoretically. It also cements via Stark's statement about putting together a team at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Fury's role in IM2 would be solely to progress The Avengers

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Dude, you rock

nuff said

WM look dope!

dun tell me stuff about the movie... LALALALALALALA!!!! /closes ears and eyes

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Well the Repulsor Rays are pure fiction even in their conception. Even assuming that Iron Man can convert any stored energy in his suit into laser light with 100 percent efficiency, generating a beam powerful enough to melt a fist-sized hole through a half-inch-thick steel plate (which any comic book fan can tell you is well within Shellhead's capabilities) would require an energy pulse of over two gigawatts of power, greater than the output of a nuclear power plant.

Its in that factoid though comes your answer. The Repulsors in his palms were to stabilize and balance flight, which is why in the Mark 2 testing sequence he blasts into the building without them. The thing is that, that is at a high percentage of power from his Arc Reactor without something else channeling. The palm repulsors syphon power from his Arc Reactor and creates an equilibrium that allows him to control the flight boots. When he fires a blast from his palm repulsors it drains an outstanding amount of energy temporarily from his Arc which depowers his boots enough to create a hover. He doesn't get thrown back because they are focused blasts of energy but work like a gun with minimal kickback, he does flinch a bit but not a lot if you watch it again especially in HD. Once the blast is depleted the boots and repulsors charge back up and he flies. He could fire while in flight but the danger is that if he does fire while in accelerated flight and his suit powers down too much he would freefall or it would even cause his natural momentum to carry him into the nearest object at his original speed. Which is why the hover is the safest way to discharge.

His suit can generate 2 gigawatts, nice he can go..... Back to the Future!

Guns that power/size actually have a quite a bit of kickback. Even a shotgun when fired wrongly has been known to dislocate shoulders. His repulsors are energy blasts though so probably work very differently from physical bullets. I like those shots of him firing both repulsors in opposite directions at target which would balance out his force.

 

[INFECDEAD]

While we all kind of predicted it, Favreau confirmed via his Twitter that Iron Man 2 takes place before The Incredible Hulk. So that would destroy any possibility of a Norton Banner cameo since he'd be hiding out in Brazil theoretically. It also cements via Stark's statement about putting together a team at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Fury's role in IM2 would be solely to progress The Avengers

Looks like some maneuvering to make Edward Norton's Hulk the antagonist in The Avengers might be the plan. I hope so, if done right the Hulk vs Avengers story will rock!

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Looks like some maneuvering to make Edward Norton's Hulk the antagonist in The Avengers might be the plan. I hope so, if done right the Hulk vs Avengers story will rock!

Yeah Hulk versus anything has lots of potential!

 

[MaulFan]

While we all kind of predicted it, Favreau confirmed via his Twitter that Iron Man 2 takes place before The Incredible Hulk. So that would destroy any possibility of a Norton Banner cameo since he'd be hiding out in Brazil theoretically. It also cements via Stark's statement about putting together a team at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Fury's role in IM2 would be solely to progress The Avengers

Interesting, while it's a bit vague, I do hope IM2's story still supports General Ross' comment to Stark in the bar about problems, I took that as post IM1 where Stark leaves off unveiling he's Iron Man and dealing with the results of that move being his problem, as we see in IM2 from the government meetings and all. I wonder what his problem will be once IM2 has finished, unless even 2 doesn't line up with Hulk's timeline.

As for Norton's cameo, it's not out of the question, if IM2 happens before Hulk, they could run into each other before Bruce fleas for Brazil or even Stark bumping into Bruce in a foreign country, since Tony can quickly fly from the U.S. to Gulmira in his suit.

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Interesting, while it's a bit vague, I do hope IM2's story still supports General Ross' comment to Stark in the bar about problems, I took that as post IM1 where Stark leaves off unveiling he's Iron Man and dealing with the results of that move being his problem, as we see in IM2 from the government meetings and all. I wonder what his problem will be once IM2 has finished, unless even 2 doesn't line up with Hulk's timeline.

As for Norton's cameo, it's not out of the question, if IM2 happens before Hulk, they could run into each other before Bruce fleas for Brazil or even Stark bumping into Bruce in a foreign country, since Tony can quickly fly from the U.S. to Gulmira in his suit.

True, but there has to be a relevant point for it for this particular movie. If you start putting in elements just to set the stage for upcoming movies, it can get messy. Still possible if they work it into the storyline though, but I see it distracting more than anything unless it's after the credits, at the end or there's some important role to it for the film. They probably want to leave it more open ended with Norton so not sure they will cast him in a cameo too.

 

[Raikirik]

Interesting, while it's a bit vague, I do hope IM2's story still supports General Ross' comment to Stark in the bar about problems, I took that as post IM1 where Stark leaves off unveiling he's Iron Man and dealing with the results of that move being his problem, as we see in IM2 from the government meetings and all. I wonder what his problem will be once IM2 has finished, unless even 2 doesn't line up with Hulk's timeline.

As for Norton's cameo, it's not out of the question, if IM2 happens before Hulk, they could run into each other before Bruce fleas for Brazil or even Stark bumping into Bruce in a foreign country, since Tony can quickly fly from the U.S. to Gulmira in his suit.

There was a hole in that. He was supposed to be situated in Dubai before he moved to Gulmira. The deleted scenes have this. He held a party so he'd have an alibi to move the suit closer.

There's a trailer for the video game with War Machine in it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yAsg5eA2Vs

 

[The Mike]

Yes and no. It is true that the Dubai scene was cut but one of the reasons it was is because they went the Ultimates model where Tony needs a full "team" to put on the suit, unlike the 616 universe where he can carry it in a briefcase. Its been quoted that it'd make less sense for him to move that whole infastructure to Dubai for a party then to go to Gulmera from there. With that cut, we nothing left but what was on-screen and unless they state otherwise theoretically Tony can fly from the Malibu coast to Gulmera in that timeframe.

As for the Banner cameo its entirely possible to have him there depending on how much before the Incredible Hulk this takes place. It does make sense though based on the film's last few pieces of dialogue.

Gen. Thaddeus 'Thunderbolt' Ross: You always wear such nice suits.
Tony Stark: Touche.
Tony Stark: I hear you have an unusual problem.
Gen. Thaddeus 'Thunderbolt' Ross: You should talk.
Tony Stark: You should listen. What if I told you we were putting a team together?
Gen. Thaddeus 'Thunderbolt' Ross: Who's "we"?

The unusual problem comment has to be more than Iron Man outing himself because realistically Iron Man's identity isn't the same as a "rampaging" Hulk. My thought is that all of the Marvel films Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America and if it ever gets off the ground Ant-Man would take place before The Incredible Hulk and refer to the building of The Avengers only to have the film following pick up where they left off.

It would fit the Ultimates storyline where Captain America's first real task with the Avengers is to take down an out of control Hulk. They've already set the stage for him to be attempting to focus and harness the energies but he can't really control it, so the wrong trigger and Hulk is off and going.

I would love a moment in one of the movies where Stark says "I'm going to have a chat with General Ross" so you get real continuity but I doubt it'd happen.

 

[MaulFan]

That or something like Stark watching a new story covering teh Bronx battle and knowing Ross was on the scene and getting a look on him like he's going to go have a talk with him. You do get a sense before he even walks in there that he knows Ross has had his ass handed to him.

 

[Raikirik]

Yes and no. It is true that the Dubai scene was cut but one of the reasons it was is because they went the Ultimates model where Tony needs a full "team" to put on the suit, unlike the 616 universe where he can carry it in a briefcase. Its been quoted that it'd make less sense for him to move that whole infastructure to Dubai for a party then to go to Gulmera from there. With that cut, we nothing left but what was on-screen and unless they state otherwise theoretically Tony can fly from the Malibu coast to Gulmera in that timeframe.

As for the Banner cameo its entirely possible to have him there depending on how much before the Incredible Hulk this takes place. It does make sense though based on the film's last few pieces of dialogue.



The unusual problem comment has to be more than Iron Man outing himself because realistically Iron Man's identity isn't the same as a "rampaging" Hulk. My thought is that all of the Marvel films Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America and if it ever gets off the ground Ant-Man would take place before The Incredible Hulk and refer to the building of The Avengers only to have the film following pick up where they left off.

It would fit the Ultimates storyline where Captain America's first real task with the Avengers is to take down an out of control Hulk. They've already set the stage for him to be attempting to focus and harness the energies but he can't really control it, so the wrong trigger and Hulk is off and going.

I would love a moment in one of the movies where Stark says "I'm going to have a chat with General Ross" so you get real continuity but I doubt it'd happen.

Ahhh okay, thanks for making that more clear. Really though, how long do you think it would take him to get there from Malibu? Must have been one stiff trip!

 

[Agent0028]

I always thought Hulk was best as a Jekyll and Hyde character bad guy. I think it would be great for him to be what they are up against in the movie, but I'm not sure if that would work for the whole movie.

 

[Sachiel]

Maybe they'll fight alien invaders!




OK, no...

 

[The Mike]

That or something like Stark watching a new story covering the Bronx battle and knowing Ross was on the scene and getting a look on him like he's going to go have a talk with him. You do get a sense before he even walks in there that he knows Ross has had his ass handed to him.

Most of the climax of The Incredible Hulk took place late at night, when Stark walks in its bright day without a real timemarker other than daylight. As bright as it was when he opens the door one could assume that its as late as noon, plenty of time for the newspapers and news broadcasts to air what happened so I agree that Stark knows that Ross failed miserably.

I always thought Hulk was best as a Jekyll and Hyde character bad guy. I think it would be great for him to be what they are up against in the movie, but I'm not sure if that would work for the whole movie.

It might. Remember that Banner reports that when he reawakening from being The Hulk that he only has flashes of consciousness, bits and pieces remaining. I could see then looking for Hulk, scouring using Betty as a ploy, saying they have her, even playing a recording of her screaming (I could see Hawkeye pulling that) to try and bait him out but miscalculating and having him rage. Can't you picture Hulk screaming "Where Betty!?", "Who have Betty?!" while rampaging and hearing Cap screaming "Barton, that was a messy and dangerous move solider!" while Hawkeye shouts "You wanted a Hulk, I gave you a Hulk" and then engaging him? Banner would have no control just work on raw emotion, and depending how its shot I could see him engaging all Avengers individually and having a real showdown similar to the Blonsky/Hulk showdown in The Incredible Hulk.

Maybe they'll fight alien invaders!
OK, no...

I wouldn't mind seeing the Skrulls as long as they were done right.

 

[Darth Waller]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Skrulls as long as they were done right.

Hell yeah! I'm dying for the Skrulls to show up in a Marvel movie.

 

[Centrocal]

New vid

https://video.fr.msn.com/watch/video/iron-man-2-images-exclusives/jm7qrw3n

 

[hunnipot85]

Scarlett looks amazing in that black dress <33