Iron Man 3 Discussion Thread

[jye4ever]

Yeah if we're talking about cyborgs, Peter Weller is definitely up there.

Arnold did a great cyborg in Conan

I kid, I kid, Conan is da ****.

 

[CelticPredator]

Yeah if we're talking about cyborgs, Peter Weller is definitely up there.

Oh most definitely. But I was kinda talking more Endo Terminators.

Which have been played iffy by Summer Glau, that one big dude from SCC, and Kristana Lokkenwhatever.


The only one that did it right was Garrett Dillahunt. Dude rocked as the Terminator.

(T-1000 doesn't count, as he wasn't a Endoskeleton Terminator)

 

[Buttmunch]

Oh most definitely. But I was kinda talking more Endo Terminators.

Which have been played iffy by Summer Glau, that one big dude from SCC, and Kristana Lokkenwhatever.


The only one that did it right was Garrett Dillahunt. Dude rocked as the Terminator.

(T-1000 doesn't count, as he wasn't a Endoskeleton Terminator)

Which is funny, because after watching 2 and a half seasons of raising hope, I couldn't take him seriously as a Terminator anymore

 

[CelticPredator]

, shame too. He was the best part about that show. He became a real threat for a while.

Until the second season. Blah.

 

[thenammagazine]

Oh most definitely. But I was kinda talking more Endo Terminators.

Which have been played iffy by Summer Glau, that one big dude from SCC, and Kristana Lokkenwhatever.


The only one that did it right was Garrett Dillahunt. Dude rocked as the Terminator.

(T-1000 doesn't count, as he wasn't a Endoskeleton Terminator)

Franky Columbu > all those other Endo wannabes you mentioned.

 

[jye4ever]

Franky Columbu > all those other Endo wannabes you mentioned.

 

[Frank]

Natural body building is still a good sport. But outside of that, it's whose roid-infused abs look more like a Clydesdale's ass.

I think its a great way to live and serve as a foundation for sport, but the whole concept of using the physique merely for show is more akin to beauty pageants. At least Lou gave WSM a shot back in the day.

Looks kinda silly in other animals (via lack of myostatin inhibitor):

Franky Columbu > all those other Endo wannabes you mentioned

Pound for pound, one of the strongest of all time.

 

[thenammagazine]

I think its a great way to live and serve as a foundation for sport, but the whole concept of using the physique merely for show is more akin to beauty pageants. At least Lou gave WSM a shot back in the day.

Looks kinda silly in other animals (via lack of myostatin inhibitor):

And yet Golf, Curling, skeet shooting, archery, etc., are considered sports.

 

[Frank]

You did that yourself Frank!

Since you worked so hard for that one, I'll put it up on my fridge.

And yet Golf, Curling, skeet shooting, archery, etc., are considered sports.

And they should because there's the hand/eye coordination, use of tools and weapons for intended purpose. You have these guys on the other hand who develop twentysome-odd-inch biceps and all they wanna do is be looked at. Sure I guess they could make videos all day long of their routine, but routine isn't sport and posing for hours on end isn't terribly athletic or entertaining. It is a testament to Arnie that he made it so popular in this country and how far he made it work for him. No question there.

 

[thenammagazine]

And they should because there's the hand/eye coordination, use of tools and weapons for intended purpose. You have these guys on the other hand who develop twentysome-odd-inch biceps and all they wanna do is be looked at. Sure I guess they could make videos all day long of their routine, but routine isn't sport and posing for hours on end isn't terribly athletic or entertaining. It is a testament to Arnie that he made it so popular in this country and how far he made it work for him. No question there.

We'll agree to disagree. Bodybuilding is more than just posing for hours, and I'd be willing to bet, "athletically," a bodybuilder is 1000x more healthy than your average bowler, but yet bowling's also a sport.

 

[Kamandi]

We were all listing favorite Arnold films, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would add Pumping Iron to the list.

 

[Frank]

We'll agree to disagree. Bodybuilding is more than just posing for hours, and I'd be willing to bet, "athletically," a bodybuilder is 1000x more healthy than your average bowler, but yet bowling's also a sport.

Haha, good point. I guess I consider bowling to be more game than sport too. Fair enough.

 

[noisetrigger]

While bowlers might not always be in the best of shape, bodybuilders aren't very healthy either. Sure they exercise non-stop and watch their diet but at the same time a lot of them are also into steroids and HGH and those non-stop protein shake and all these combined takes it told on your body.

One reason why a lot of bodybuilders developed health issues like kidney failure, diabetic, enlarged heart, etc, etc.

 

[jye4ever]

We were all listing favorite Arnold films, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would add Pumping Iron to the list.

Lou Ferrino's line is my favorite:

"No more daddy, no more!"

 

[Snadinator]

While bowlers might not always be in the best of shape, bodybuilders aren't very healthy either. Sure they exercise non-stop and watch their diet but at the same time a lot of them are also into steroids and HGH and those non-stop protein shake and all these combined takes it told on your body.

One reason why a lot of bodybuilders developed health issues like kidney failure, diabetic, enlarged heart, etc, etc.

Well that's just not accurate at all. Most bodybuilders are not on drugs. Pro Bodybuilders, yes, but most who bodybuild do it for health and fitness reasons.

Steroids and HGH, in a healthy male adult, are not very dangerous at all either. There is a fantastic HBO documentary on the subject. The media grossly blew it all out of proportion. Understand what a steroid is. Cholesterol is a steroid. Estrogen/Progesterone anti-contraceptive pills prescribed every day to girls around the world are "steroids". Anabolic/Androgenic steroids that athletes use are synthetic testosterone or variants of it. Is it 100% safe? No of course not. Improper use can have some effects but so can anti-contraceptive pills. The latter can lead to blood clots and increase the risk of certain cancers.

Compared to the dangers of smoking, alcohol, aspirin and excessively high sugar diets, the above is quite tame. "Steroids and HGH" are prescribed to people every day in Anti-Aging clinics, for people with muscular dystrophy, for people with aids, for people with anemia etc...

What is very dangerous in pro bodybuilding are:

* Many will use insulin in order to force nutrient uptake. This can lead to insulin resistance and eventually diabetes. It can also put a person into hypoglycemic shock if they make a mistake.

* Others also use diuretics in order to shed excess water to appear more defined on stage. This is murder on their kidneys.

Now that is all only associated with Pro Bodybuilding. Most people who bodybuild have no aspirations to compete in pro bodybuilding or compete at all for that matter. They go into the gym and work their ***** off to look and feel good. They eat proper diets that encourage muscle gain and fat loss. This is 99% of people who bodybuild.

Also, protein shakes are healthy. More people should consider using these to supplement their diets for fat loss / muscle development. Saying they have some kind of negative health impact is so very misinformed.

 

[thenammagazine]

We were all listing favorite Arnold films, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would add Pumping Iron to the list.

Most definitely, if not for the whole psychological aspect alone. For all intents and purposes Lou should've taken it, but Arnie's headgames, and his dad's negative coaching style, killed any and every chance of that happening.

 

[Kamandi]

Schwarzenegger was confident and worldly. He'd already been around a bit, and knew he was on the cusp of bigger fame. There's a whole sense in the film that's he's graduating and everybody wishes they were him.

Farigno was already intimidated before Arnold even started the confidence games. I think on some level he saw himself as a small town kid. He was certainly portrayed that way. He knew his whole family had invested in him winning, and that was another burden. Lou looked great, but he never stood a chance.

 

[Spartan Rex]

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[intothevoid]

I guess noone cares about this film then

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

this thread has gone to **** lol