Is Sideshow gearing itself AWAY from 1/6 Figures?

[galactiboy]

Then again, maybe they read in the forums how much their 12" figures "suck" and how "Hot toys is so much better" and it hurt their feelings so much that they can't bring themselves to make anymore

Ha ha, after reading more of this thread I can see where that would happen

But when it comes to decisions to make more figures or to pull out I think Sideshow has typically done a good job. I am unhappy that the Medieval Kurgan never saw the light of day (obviously), but at the same time the line (with the exception of the Kurgan) really struggled to sell. And no Ramirez was a real deal-breaker for some. Kinda similar situation with POTA, the Taylor from BPOTA took forever to sell out and was limited to only 400.

But with every figure line there are great characters that never see the light of day. I think Sideshow (out of all 1/6 companies) has done the best job of bringing diversity to their lines. Medicom tends to make 1 or 2 figures from a line, and the same is true for many others. Nice thing is that Hot Toys really seems to be taking a page from Sideshow on this one and giving us lots of figures from the same property... but does anyone really believe they'll release a Mickey.

So while it kinda sucks not to have all my favorites from a movie, I'm still happy with the figures I've gotten and fingers crossed that we'll be seeing more 1/6.

 

[The Josh]

If the figure was of the same quality as the Hot Toys figures, I would have no problem paying higher prices for Sideshow stuff.

Even at the lower prices, I don't buy much Sideshow because they are not as good. I would much rather save my money and buy 1 Hot Toys figure than 3 or even 4 Sideshow figures. I prefer quality over quantity. I have nearly 100 figures on display around my apartment (including Sideshow, Dragon, BBI, Hot Toys and some customs) and I spend much more time admiring and staring at the 3 HT Aliens and 1 HT Predator I have than any of the other figures I have.

IYO that is. I feel like for my money I'm getting the best figures on the planet. Yet, you seem to feel the need to pretty much tell me and others the stuff I buy sucks. Which is funny since I don't see many SS Fans doing the same to the HT, Medicom, Dragon, etc. I and others feel like with SS we're getting both quality and quantity. You don't and that's fine but I don't see the need by you and others to keep telling us how much our stuff sucks.

Anyway, I kind of get the feeling that this discussion is getting a bit heated, and I never meant to cut down anyone's opinion. It's all just a matter of personal preference.

That's gonna happen when you come here and flat out say something someone else buys sucks. You're totally correct that it's just a matter of personal preference. Most folks here are here because they really like SS and a good portion like me feel SS makes the best stuff on the market. If you don't as I said that's cool but no need for you and others to keep telling us how much SS sucks compared to whoever.


SS does make figures of the same quality as Medicom IMO. I like Medicoms stuff and have spent a ton on them recently ROTS Vader, BHST, Ep3 (which I'm having moded into a 501st), Jango, Boba, etc. They're very nice and I feel are worth the money but I feel the quality from SS is at the very least the same.

 

[EVILFACE]

If Sideshow ever made figures of this quality I would gladly pay the higher prices, if necessary:

One of the problems you will run into is "IF" SS did make figures the same price as them (130-160) you are NOT going to see any background characters like a Kit Fisto, it will just be the same big name characters over and over Luke, Leia, Han, rinse and repeat.

And quality is there on the cheaper figures. I love my HT Superman, but is he really $70 better than say a Bride of Frankenstein Monster? No he isn't. He should have been a $79 figure like the Rambo's. HT Endo is worth it's 120+ pricetag.

 

[pixletwin]

What a depresing thread. As Darth Neil would say, this thread gives me the "no" feeling.

 

[galactiboy]

Luckily not all of the HT figures are $120+ dollars. But when you have a figure that has 0% reuse the prices will be higher and I think its justified.

The Endo, Alien and ED-209 sculpts (besides the 3 or 4 variants) are only good for that figure. So the costs are higher and I think they charge a pretty fair price. I mean look at Jabba... we'll only see one of him and that whole set-up was around $350

But with the Colonial Marines, we're getting those for around $20 more than a Sideshow figure (and aside from the likeness issues) which is a good price and they released 6 of them which I never would have expected.

 

[BadMoon]

Peeks into thread. Decides to keep his mouth shut. Doesn't want nerd blanked on. Leaves thread.

 

[Ironman1188]

I was just using those as example of lines that I would imagine doing well.

Ironman you're not the least bit bitter huh? Fairly ****ty attitude you got there. Why should they do lines that aren't selling? I think the lines that aren't selling only have the fans to blame IMO. If POA isn't selling then maybe more POA fans should have bought more or demanded harder. SW fans buy, buy, buy and especially if it's a great product like what SS is turning out. LOTR fans are the same and as soon as LOTR gets going more we'll see that.

I hope SS doesn't give up on the 1:6th scale because I am finding myself really liking that scale. At least the SW and LOTR stuff so I'd hate to see it go. I can't afford myself to get a ton of PF I know that. I will get a lot but it would end up being less figures than I can in 1:6th.

No, my additude isn't ****ty. Its realistic. I just can't blindly devote myself to a company that doesn't make what everyone [at least on the SIDESHOW board] have asked for. Maybe more fans should have bought more? How many Friggin' Brents [who bared NO resemblence to his character] can I buy. A little more variety and a little more spaced out may well have helped the line. But, thats not up to fans or customers, that ball was solely in $ide$how's court. Just because $tar War$ devotees will blindly buy anything that even resembles having the SW logo on it doesn't mean everyone else who follows a different line should also.

 

[pixletwin]

I have to agree with Ironman on this point. Sometimes the order in which Sideshow releases characters makes me scratch my head too... (ie why 2 Connors and 2 Duncans and only one of that one dude with the deep voice )....

I look forward to the day when Sideshow released "Guy with Skull armour and Big Sword" figure someday.

 

[The Josh]

No, my additude isn't ****ty. Its realistic. I just can't blindly devote myself to a company that doesn't make what everyone [at least on the SIDESHOW board] have asked for. Maybe more fans should have bought more? How many Friggin' Brents [who bared NO resemblence to his character] can I buy. A little more variety and a little more spaced out may well have helped the line. But, thats not up to fans or customers, that ball was solely in $ide$how's court. Just because $tar War$ devotees will blindly buy anything that even resembles having the SW logo on it doesn't mean everyone else who follows a different line should also.

Call it what you want then. I don't disagree that at the end the POA line could have used some more diversity. However, I think by that point the line was already sinking from lack of sales. As far as SW fans blindly buying whatever. Some do that no doubts but more than most are picky about it. Just look to this board if you must. That's the case with me anyways. I've gotten them all because I want the entire line but also they're meeting MY needs. That may make me a blind follower but right now I'm happy.

Also what's up with the "$" in the name of Sideshow and Star Wars? IMO you lose the whole point of your arguement when doing crap like that.

 

[dekadentdave]

Also what's up with the "$" in the name of Sideshow and Star Wars? IMO you lose the whole point of your arguement when doing crap like that.

That's the whole point. It's all about the $ and $tar War$ is the biggest cash whore and $ideshow has basically $old itself out.

 

[The Josh]

That's the whole point. It's all about the $ and $tar War$ is the biggest cash whore and $ideshow has basically $old itself out.

Ok

 

[Ironman1188]

Call it what you want then. I don't disagree that at the end the POA line could have used some more diversity. However, I think by that point the line was already sinking from lack of sales. As far as SW fans blindly buying whatever. Some do that no doubts but more than most are picky about it. Just look to this board if you must. That's the case with me anyways. I've gotten them all because I want the entire line but also they're meeting MY needs. That may make me a blind follower but right now I'm happy.

Also what's up with the "$" in the name of Sideshow and Star Wars? IMO you lose the whole point of your arguement when doing crap like that.

It didn't take to the end of the line for it to have needed diversity. POTA was a blessing to have received, but totally mishandled by $$C. That mishandling, lack of advertising, etc led to a lack of sales. Like you buying all the SW I bought all [and multibles thereof] of the POTA line.
And yes, sorry if it offends you, but being as $ide$how is now ALL about the dollar, it seemed only fitting to incorporate it into their name. I don't think I lose the point of my argument with it, the "$" are the point of my argument.

 

[EVILFACE]

A business all about making money?????? You are kidding????

Lets make another 200 chimp figures so they can take 3 years to sell out

 

[pixletwin]

A business all about making money?????? You are kidding????

Lets make another 200 chimp figures so they can take 3 years to sell out

EF, telling it like it is.

 

[Agent0028]

Yep, I tell ya, Sideshow, they were a good company 'til they started making money.

 

[dekadentdave]

Why must every figure be an instant sellout in order to keep a line going? Not all of us can afford to buy everything at once. I did not start collecting Apes until 2 years into the line and would pick up one occassionally as I had extra cash. It's nice to have some inventory on hand that you know will probably be there when you want it instead of feeling like you must jump in the moment the pre-orders go up or you will miss out completely. It would be nice to have some of the regular editions on-hand to pickup down the road.

 

[denger4000]

Yeah that sucks. I only collect "Action Figures."

I hear that...

 

[DBoz]

IYO that is. I feel like for my money I'm getting the best figures on the planet. Yet, you seem to feel the need to pretty much tell me and others the stuff I buy sucks. Which is funny since I don't see many SS Fans doing the same to the HT, Medicom, Dragon, etc. I and others feel like with SS we're getting both quality and quantity. You don't and that's fine but I don't see the need by you and others to keep telling us how much our stuff sucks.



That's gonna happen when you come here and flat out say something someone else buys sucks. You're totally correct that it's just a matter of personal preference. Most folks here are here because they really like SS and a good portion like me feel SS makes the best stuff on the market. If you don't as I said that's cool but no need for you and others to keep telling us how much SS sucks compared to whoever.


SS does make figures of the same quality as Medicom IMO. I like Medicoms stuff and have spent a ton on them recently ROTS Vader, BHST, Ep3 (which I'm having moded into a 501st), Jango, Boba, etc. They're very nice and I feel are worth the money but I feel the quality from SS is at the very least the same.

First of all, I never said that anything Sideshow has put out sucks. I was simply stating that they are not on the same level quality wise as Hot Toys. I too am a fan of Sideshow, or I wouldn't be on this board. The Hot Toys stuff is not the only thing that brought me here. I have been collecting the Buffy line for several years and if the line were to continue, I would continue to purchase figures. However, I feel pretty secure in saying that there were quality issues with some of the figures in that line. That's not to say that there weren't some great figures. Human Spike for one. When Sideshow got it right, they really got it right, but when they got it wrong, they really got it wrong.

I'm glad that you feel like you are getting your money's worth with your Star Wars line, but my collecting habits don't lie in that direction. The topic of this thread is whether or not we think Sideshow is moving away from 1/6, and from the perspective of someone who doesn't collect Star Wars, it would seem that they are. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? From the perspective of a collector of one of the canceled lines, it's a bad thing. From Sideshow's perspective it's probably a good thing. I have no problem with a company moving in a direction that will be more profitable to them. It just means that my money will be going elsewhere. That's capitalism.

Anyway, I still stand by my comments. If you take them as a personal attack against your collecting preferences, well, I'm sorry, but please don't put words in my mouth.

 

[Agent0028]

Good point Dekadent. There are alot of sideshow pieces I wish wouldn't sell out so fast because I would like to be able to go back and get them later. For instance the Anakin vs. Obi-Wan diorama, I'm having a hard time deciding whether I can afford it or not and my window of opportunity is quickly closing.

But still if they all sell out before they are in stock I imagine that is better for the company.

 

[pixletwin]

However, I feel pretty secure in saying that there were quality issues with some of the figures in [the BTVS] line.