Justice League Movie (Nov 17th, 2017)

[Adolfo]

The 70s 80s didn't have Millennials,cell phones,internet,low attention span,bored quickly,action hungry guys like they do today....I could go on and on...superheroes here to stay$$$...."things were simpler back then"...vs the i could be anything,I could be me,I could be a superhero generation,...

 

[DiFabio]

Joanne Rowling?

 

[twistedfreak]

As long as the $$$ keeps rolling in (regardless of the quality of them), the studios will continue to greenlight these films. Once the trend of flopping starts with these films, then we can expect to see fewer of these getting made, and perhaps none if the flops are consistant.

 

[ShadowX81]

Already has, fantastic beasts. it’s pretty great too.

as far as more harry stuff, fat chance. maybe a cursed child flick but that’s far off.

It has? IMO Fantastic Beasts was a piece of crap film that made no sense and was an lazy cash grab.

 

[karamazov80]

While you look forward to all the same movies, over and over again, I'll be looking forward to the industry implosion that Steven Spielberg and George Lucas prophesied.

I look forward to discovering movies of the past! Great films are out there, like what I'm watching right now.

**** new movies.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Joanne Rowling?


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Yes?

 

[Wor-Gar]

If 'Stranger Things' and 'It' are any indication, perhaps family horror will move upstage a bit.

Certainly a return to the 'everyman' hero would seem refreshing also if done right.

 

[crows]

We have seen this cycle before...:.Sci Fi was big in the late 70 early 80's. Then died out in favor of teen comedy, adventure films, then a stint where horror owned the stage, and then the teen scene and then romantic comedies.....

Those phases seemed to last much shorter than what we see now. The really milk each genre to the maximum possible.

My guess is less serious films will be the next phase, they are adding a lot of humor to the comic universe (no pun intended) . I think the response will be a return to teen comedies and teen angst films...just a wild guess


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[Wor-Gar]

We have seen this cycle before...:.Sci Fi was big in the late 70 early 80's. Then died out in favor of teen comedy, adventure films, then a stint where horror owned the stage, and then the teen scene and then romantic comedies.....

Those phases seemed to last much shorter than what we see now. The really milk each genre to the maximum possible.

My guess is less serious films will be the next phase, they are adding a lot of humor to the comic universe (no pun intended) . I think the response will be a return to teen comedies and teen angst films...just a wild guess

Comedy had a good run with the Apatow movies just a few years back.

And I wouldn't say that your run-down of the late 70's and 80's is an either/or situation -- horror was big in 1979 (cover of Time magazine) but sci-fi was running rampant after Star Wars all the same. John Hughes movies started out along with hard actioners like Rambo 2 and Terminator... and those comedies were the result of the success of Animal House whose like manifested right along with Star Wars as well as horror (Halloween). It's very tough to separate genres entirely, as there's so much spill over. Horror was as big as Sci-Fi in the late 70's/early 80's - leftover from Exorcist and Jaws that gave us everything from Dracula to Alien to Halloween to The Thing remake. Quite often there are several trends at one time.

But a hit movie of a specific genre will "bring back" said genre at least for a bit, even if an old genre is still sputtering along.

Genres that serves similar tastes and/or audiences will cannibalize each other. You'll notice that Sci-fi (Star Wars) and Adventure (Indiana Jones for example) in the early 80's was replaced with hard action heroes like Arnold, Stallone, Gibson and then Willis... and basically satisfied the young teen male of the day.

I don't think comic book movies will go away entirely, but it would be nice for the pendulum to swing away from CBMs basically fulfilling the entire palette of Sci-Fi, Action and Adventure genres all by themselves.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

If 'Stranger Things' and 'It' are any indication, perhaps family horror will move upstage a bit.

Certainly a return to the 'everyman' hero would seem refreshing also if done right.

I wouldn't mind more practical effects and more grounded action. I'm tired of all these bombastic endings filled with CGI explosions and fighting.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I think a focus on everyman heroes would do that, whether it be Die Hard/Lethal Weapon type actioners or the kids from It.

 

[Khev]

I wouldn't mind more practical effects and more grounded action. I'm tired of all these bombastic endings filled with CGI explosions and fighting.

I think that possibly the worst sin of the MCU was its effort to make TV quality cinematography (and not even particularly good TV quality) commonplace in tentpole films. Thank God other studios (even other studios owned by Disney) didn't follow suit.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen. With all the content online, tv, and so many series for people to choose from, movies have to feel like an event, something worth spending money to go to a theater, and I just don't see a grounded everyman action film captivating the audience. Liam Neeson, had a relatively big hit with Taken, although nowhere near a big summer blockbuster, but it sort of started a new trend of action films, that continues with John Wick, Atomic Blonde, The Equalizer, and just last week, The Foreigner, staring another older actor, Jackie Chan. There was also American Assassin with Michael Keaton a month ago. Those films seem to make just enough money to make a profit, but they're not taking over the industry like the comic book movies and shows.

I don't think people realize it, but over the past 2 years, we might be seeing the beginning of a new golden age of horror movies. Just look at this past weekend, the number one film was a horror film, not to mention IT and the Anabelle sequel, and there was Get Out, the Witch, Don't Breathe, Insidious (1,2,3), The Conjuring 1 and 2...and the list goes on and on. Even the latest Chucky got some mainstream attention even though it was a direct to video movie.

 

[crows]

Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen. With all the content online, tv, and so many series for people to choose from, movies have to feel like an event, something worth spending money to go to a theater, and I just don't see a grounded everyman action film captivating the audience. Liam Neeson, had a relatively big hit with Taken, although nowhere near a big summer blockbuster, but it sort of started a new trend of action films, that continues with John Wick, Atomic Blonde, The Equalizer, and just last week, The Foreigner, staring another older actor, Jackie Chan. There was also American Assassin with Michael Keaton a month ago. Those films seem to make just enough money to make a profit, but they're not taking over the industry like the comic book movies and shows.

I don't think people realize it, but over the past 2 years, we might be seeing the beginning of a new golden age of horror movies. Just look at this past weekend, the number one film was a horror film, not to mention IT and the Anabelle sequel, and there was Get Out, the Witch, Don't Breathe, Insidious (1,2,3), The Conjuring 1 and 2...and the list goes on and on. Even the latest Chucky got some mainstream attention even though it was a direct to video movie.

Horror might be doing well, but it would never become as big or mainstream as superhero movies

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Horror might be doing well, but it would never become as big or mainstream as superhero movies

It's unlikely, BUT look at how much money IT made. It made blockbuster numbers and more than some MCU movies. The marketing, and the film having a certain level of quality helped a lot, and then there's the audience embracing something that isn't a comic movie, perhaps because they just want something different.

Anabelle made $256 mill on a $6 million budget, and the sequel this year, made $300 million on a $15 million budget. THAT is insane! The Conjuring film series are making over $300 mill on a $20 mill budget. Don't Breathe made $156 mill on a $6 mill budget, and now IT making over $600 mill. What's even more interesting than the crazy profit margin, is that all those films are getting good reviews, unlike the horror movies from the 80's and 90's. Hell, there was talk about Get Out getting an Oscar nomination. By the way, another $250+ mill film on a $4 million budget. There's a trend going on of low budget critically "acclaimed" horror movies making huge profit. Next year there's another horror film called The Nun, and that's expected to be big as well, but we'll see.

So far, IT, which is an R rated film, is the closest thing to achieve complete mainstream success like the comic book films. I don't know if that film will open the door for more Horror blockbusters, but we'll see if it was an anomaly or a game changer and part of growing trend for the horror genre.

 

[crows]

It's unlikely, BUT look at how much money IT made. It made blockbuster numbers and more than some MCU movies. The marketing, and the film having a certain level of quality helped a lot, and then there's the audience embracing something that isn't a comic movie, perhaps because they just want something different.

Anabelle made $256 mill on a $6 million budget, and the sequel this year, made $300 million on a $15 million budget. THAT is insane! The Conjuring film series are making over $300 mill on a $20 mill budget. Don't Breathe made $156 mill on a $6 mill budget, and now IT making over $600 mill. What's even more interesting than the crazy profit margin, is that all those films are getting good reviews, unlike the horror movies from the 80's and 90's. Hell, there was talk about Get Out getting an Oscar nomination. By the way, another $250+ mill film on a $4 million budget. There's a trend going on of low budget critically "acclaimed" horror movies making huge profit. Next year there's another horror film called The Nun, and that's expected to be big as well, but we'll see.

So far, IT, which is an R rated film, is the closest thing to achieve complete mainstream success like the comic book films. I don't know if that film will open the door for more Horror blockbusters, but we'll see if it was an anomaly or a game changer and part of growing trend for the horror genre.

Sixth sense was the "IT" of the late 90s and there was no horror revolution. Sixth sense made just as much , was watched just as much, it never got studios to try to make that much horror

 

[Adolfo]

Horror might be doing well, but it would never become as big or mainstream as superhero movies

Horror does well..folks today want the scare...plus horror film budgets are dirt cheap compared to sci fi, etc, etc...profits are made in horror..even in many piece of sheet films

 

[Adolfo]

It's unlikely, BUT look at how much money IT made. It made blockbuster numbers and more than some MCU movies. The marketing, and the film having a certain level of quality helped a lot, and then there's the audience embracing something that isn't a comic movie, perhaps because they just want something different.

Anabelle made $256 mill on a $6 million budget, and the sequel this year, made $300 million on a $15 million budget. THAT is insane! The Conjuring film series are making over $300 mill on a $20 mill budget. Don't Breathe made $156 mill on a $6 mill budget, and now IT making over $600 mill. What's even more interesting than the crazy profit margin, is that all those films are getting good reviews, unlike the horror movies from the 80's and 90's. Hell, there was talk about Get Out getting an Oscar nomination. By the way, another $250+ mill film on a $4 million budget. There's a trend going on of low budget critically "acclaimed" horror movies making huge profit. Next year there's another horror film called The Nun, and that's expected to be big as well, but we'll see.

So far, IT, which is an R rated film, is the closest thing to achieve complete mainstream success like the comic book films. I don't know if that film will open the door for more Horror blockbusters, but we'll see if it was an anomaly or a game changer and part of growing trend for the horror genre.

Agreed...pretty much can't lose with cost effective budget friendly horror flick

 

[crows]

Horror does well..folks today want the scare...plus horror film budgets are dirt cheap compared to sci fi, etc, etc...profits are made in horror..even in many piece of sheet films

it does well but it will never become the main draw or as big as super hero movies. i cant see that happening. Specially because most horror is cliche and relies on jump scares.
at least super hero movies and sci fi have cool cgi fights or have interesting plots. horror is the same crap every single time,

 

[Captain Clown]

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