Justice League Movie (Nov 17th, 2017)

[Sweet Rabbit]

They should have made Doomsday a two-parter like Infinity War

 

[GasparZizou]

And they also should have made JL a two parter like they originally planned.

They should have done that Mad Max future.

And end it there.

The DCEU was never good for universe building outside a little Elseworld EXTREME multiverse thing.

 

[loki2371]

After? Both MOS and BvS were garbage as well.

Bvs was so stupid. Lex Luther is a joke. Having batman be batman for 20 yrs and superman for only 2 was a dumb idea, the reason they fought was also silly, building up to JL was a terrible move. Doomsday was rushed and stupid idea. Just an all around bad movie from a studio who know nothing about the characters they have. Then they follow it up with suicide squad. Having the worst depiction of joker ever put on film

I kinda enjoyed MOS. It wasn't great but I could've accepted it. Yes it was a bleak Superman, but at the very end he seemed to be on the path towards the Superman we knew. The scene with the General and the military chick was exactly the Superman of old.

The movie was his struggle of coming of age in a world he didn't belong to, and whether or not mankind would accept him. Knowing soon he would have to make a choice to either be Earth's protector/savior, or stay isolated and alone. At the end he sacrificed his Krypton heritage and the last remaining Kryptonians in order to protect Earth. WB/DC should've kept to the original plan and made a MOS2 and had Superman being the boyscout the fans/world know & identify with.

It could've made a good starting point for the DCEU even though that was never it's intentions. But WB/DC had $$ in their eyes, not world building a franchise. The correct path would've/should've been a Batman movie, then MOS 2 as I described with maybe a small crossover, then BvS. Give us our beloved Dark Knight in contrast to Superman. That's why they work so well together. Two depressing characters leads to a depressing movie, which was one of the biggest problems with BvS (and the worst Lex Luthor EVER!). The suicide rate must be extremely high in Snyder's DC verse.

My point is, the DCEU had the opportunity to be successful. WB/DC hid their $$ rush agenda in declaring how they want to be different. Jumping right into the fray and being dark and dreary obviously was the wrong choice. And the DCEU's struggle in the beginning had led to it's continued failure. Both BvS & JL each should've have easily been $$billion dollar movies. If they actually had the right people in charge, these movies could've been just as successful as Marvel.

 

[Rainpaulo]

MOS was excellent....BvS was sensational.
WW was fantastic. SS disappointing with some positives.
Josh W ****ed JL.

By the way I also like the MCU.

 

[M United]

After? Both MOS and BvS were garbage as well.

MOS is one of the best comic book movies of all time.

 

[M United]

I am not sure some of you get it. Rebooting will not do anything unless the studio changes direction (directors, writers etc). They have great actors at the moment its worth giving the current crop a go heading in a new direction. Remember WB has made a profit on all its DCEU movies and broke even with JL.

 

[Thomascrown17]

I am not sure some of you get it. Rebooting will not do anything unless the studio changes direction (directors, writers etc). They have great actors at the moment its worth giving the current crop a go heading in a new direction. Remember WB has made a profit on all its DCEU movies and broke even with JL.

I agree on all except JL breaking even. It needed a 750+ run i believe to break even. Also. They might not need to reboot but whenever they plan on releasing a movie featuring the trinity again its gonna be a tough sell. Unless they can slam dunk ww2, mos2 and TheBatman.


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[Prime Clone]

Bvs was so stupid. Lex Luther is a joke. Having batman be batman for 20 yrs and superman for only 2 was a dumb idea, the reason they fought was also silly, building up to JL was a terrible move. Doomsday was rushed and stupid idea. Just an all around bad movie from a studio who know nothing about the characters they have. Then they follow it up with suicide squad. Having the worst depiction of joker ever put on film

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

Except:

Doomsday was rushed

And maybe:

the worst depiction of joker ever put on film

MOS was excellent....BvS was sensational.
WW was fantastic. SS disappointing with some positives.
Josh W ****ed JL.

By the way I also like the MCU.

Word.

 

[M United]

I agree on all except JL breaking even. It needed a 750+ run i believe to break even. Also. They might not need to reboot but whenever they plan on releasing a movie featuring the trinity again its gonna be a tough sell. Unless they can slam dunk ww2, mos2 and TheBatman.


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Only way they can sell JL2 is if they make top quality solo movies leading up to it and have a great director on board for JL2. The fans and critics have to be on board 100% before JL2 comes out.

 

[M United]

Also if the only way forward ends up being they have to reboot (which i hope it's not) they can do that with a Matt Reeves Batman trilogy.

 

[ironwez20]

I like the cast they have for the main heroes. The villains should definitely be recasted and the universe should be given a soft reboot during flashpoint

 

[Rainpaulo]

Zach done a fantastic job with all his casting.

 

[M United]

I like every actor (heroes) from both the DCEU and Marvel.

 

[crows]

these actors can do good work

every single one of these actors has done good work outside of this movie (except for Jesse Eisenberg hes always bad)

even jared leto has done good work in the past. Gagots accent and acting is a distraction but a good director could help her out

 

[M United]

They need to change Jesse for sure he is to divisive amongst fans. Jared we haven't seen much of him yet he shouldn't be shafted just yet.

 

[Thomascrown17]

these actors can do good work

every single one of these actors has done good work outside of this movie (except for Jesse Eisenberg hes always bad)

even jared leto has done good work in the past. Gagots accent and acting is a distraction but a good director could help her out

I really dislike Gals acting. Her accent is not the problem.


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[M United]

I really dislike Gals acting. Her accent is not the problem.


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She is not an A lister she is an average actor but she is a fantastic Wonder woman.

 

[EVILFACE]

Subpar actor. I like her accent. She looks amazing as Wonder Woman. Though I think lots of physically more athletic chicks would look better in that outfit.

 

[loki2371]

Subpar actor. I like her accent. She looks amazing as Wonder Woman. Though I think lots of physically more athletic chicks would look better in that outfit.

Exactly. She's not terrible and looks OK, but there are many many better choices out there.

The only casting choice I like and would be happy they kept was Cavill as Superman.

For me, literally everyone else could go, and I'd be fine....Especially Eisenberg as Luthor. THE biggest offender of all. Worst casting choice and character design EVER. Leto could potentially be a good Joker, but they already ruined the character through design choices. Sorry, Joker is not a gang banger, and that's all this version looks like. Terrible. Affleck is just OK. Jeremy Irons is wrong as Alfred. Alfred should't sound like he'd kick Batman's ass. Mamoa as Aquabro would be ok, but like Luthor & Joker they ruined the interpretation of the character for me. Tribal tattoos all over is body was a dumb idea. Cyborg is ok, but again character design fails. He's pretty much all machine, again too much. Flash? Maybe Ezra could cut it, but he pails in compariosn to the TV version in Grant Gustin, and it's sad when a TV show's costume looks better than the Big Screen movie version.

I could keep listing, but no point. These are the many reasons for me the DCEU needs a reboot already. It's a combination of not just the terrible movies for me but also the design and casting choices. I didn't want to see JL after BvS & SS were so bad, but I gave it a chance. In no way will I be seeing Aquaman or Shazam! Not even if somehow fans actually like them. The DCEU died with JL for me. C'est La Vie....

 

[spindrift]

Only way they can sell JL2 is if they make top quality solo movies leading up to it and have a great director on board for JL2. The fans and critics have to be on board 100% before JL2 comes out.

JL2 will not be made for a long long time if WB knows what it is doing- they will likely do Batman and Superman films first and the way they are moving with those it will be years before we know what kind of shape the DCEU is in.