JUSTICE LEAGUE movie

[wofford29]

I'm not interested in what comic fans want to see. I'm interested in seeing fresh takes on characters I like.

 

[thenammagazine]

I'm not interested in what comic fans want to see. I'm interested in seeing fresh takes on characters I like.

Then go make your own home movies.

 

[wofford29]

Don't need to when the talent is entrusted to people like Nolan.

 

[Alex Logan]

I'm not interested in what comic fans want to see. I'm interested in seeing fresh takes on characters I like.

I agree with you for the most part. We need fresh.

 

[Khev]

Well Dark Knight and Avengers together prove that there's no "right way" to make a superhero movie. You can diverge from the source material and be dark and serious or stick close to it and be light and cheery. A good movie is a good movie.

 

[The Mike]

They don't even need to rush. Finish Man of Steel. Do Wonder Woman (but not like Green Lantern). Do JLA. Launch Flash and whomever else from there. Just present new characters in a manner that makes people want to see more of them.

I don't think it needs to be so complicated.

Have you not been reading this and the other DC/WB threads? No one disagrees with you, most people are saying just do a JL movie first and move backwards BUT WB currently is:

-Holding on to Green Lantern options
-Fastracking a Wonder Woman film with the writers from GL
-Fastracking a Flash film with the writers from GL
-Pushing the Batman reboot with Goyer and J. Nolan writing and Nolan producing
-Reportedly shopping for writers for an Aquaman film
-Currently filming Man of Steel with Cavill and Snyder that originally would have no ties to a JL film so they could in theory be ____ing with that.

WB is the one who is overcomplicating everything and on top of it they want JL out in 2015 last time I checked which puts everything above in a three year window.

 

[Khev]

All this talk of "Nolan keeping Batman separate in his own universe." Since when does he own the character? What's stopping WB from saying "thanks for the DK trilogy, have fun with Memento 2" and then turning around and hiring Bale to play Bats in the Justice League? Bale as Batman in the JL would be HUGE.

 

[Nightwing]

All this talk of "Nolan keeping Batman separate in his own universe." Since when does he own the character? What's stopping WB from saying "thanks for the DK trilogy, have fun with Memento 2" and then turning around and hiring Bale to play Bats in the Justice League? Bale as Batman in the JL would be HUGE.

It's borderline necessary to keep Bale in my opinion. A brand new Batman in 2014 or 2015 is just......
at least Spiderman waited 5 years between releases instead of two to three...Plus Tobey was meh.

 

[Hirogen]

All this talk of "Nolan keeping Batman separate in his own universe." Since when does he own the character? What's stopping WB from saying "thanks for the DK trilogy, have fun with Memento 2" and then turning around and hiring Bale to play Bats in the Justice League? Bale as Batman in the JL would be HUGE.

This is a great question, one to which I do not have answer and have looked for one myself. I also do not understand why they are using the same writers from the GL movie which was not received well.

 

[karamazov80]

I'm not interested in what comic fans want to see. I'm interested in seeing fresh takes on characters I like.

I don't want 100% faithful comic adaptations. But if you aren't focusing on the spirit of the source material, then what's the point? Don't call it the JLA, and don't use characters who only very superficially represent the characters comic fans know.

Nolan's Batman works because that is a reflection of a Batman we all know. Nolan doing Superman or Flash probably wouldn't work so well IMO.

 

[thenammagazine]

All this talk of "Nolan keeping Batman separate in his own universe." Since when does he own the character?

Welcome to 2008.

It's borderline necessary to keep Bale in my opinion. A brand new Batman in 2014 or 2015 is just......
at least Spiderman waited 5 years between releases instead of two to three...Plus Tobey was meh.

Bale's Batman still works if all the superheroes debut after the events of TDKR. And, you have instant recognition and audience investment keeping Bale in the role.

 

[karamazov80]

Memento 2

Where did you hear this??? Don't you toy with my emotions, Khev

 

[Nightwing]

Bale's Batman still works if all the superheroes debut after the events of TDKR. And, you have instant recognition and audience investment keeping Bale in the role.

^^^^ THIS

 

[Hirogen]

Welcome to 2008.



Bale's Batman still works if all the superheroes debut after the events of TDKR. And, you have instant recognition and audience investment keeping Bale in the role.

Didn't Bale recently state he is done with the Batman after this third movie? I thought I read that somewhere.

 

[The Mike]

All this talk of "Nolan keeping Batman separate in his own universe." Since when does he own the character? What's stopping WB from saying "thanks for the DK trilogy, have fun with Memento 2" and then turning around and hiring Bale to play Bats in the Justice League? Bale as Batman in the JL would be HUGE.

It's part of his agreements with the studio. Bale has said recently he'd be open to do another film even after saying no initially but Nolan has said no time and time again. Bale said no up until last month I believe:

Talking to Empire, Bale said, "All I know is the likelihood that this will be the last one ... Well, I wouldn't say definitely. If Chris goes, 'Hey, I've got another story I think could be interesting,' then yeah, great, I'd go do that. I always assumed it would be three, but I could be wrong. I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but I don't feel any pressure."

The thing is it seems conditional to Nolan's involvement, not sure if producer counts.

The problem with using Bale is that they've already set up the Batman reboot for 2014 with writers actively doing it and supposedly Nolan producing to the point of finding directors. If they use Bale in it, it completely derails a cohesive JL/DCU set up because the Batman reboot would come out before it. WB has ____ed themselves when it comes to Nolan's Batman and Bale because they'd either have to A: Simply reboot Batman and keep that actor out which means any future JL films would depend on Bale's agreed involvement and require a lot more headache or B: Simply sign the new Batman actor to the JL deals like Marvel has done and move past Nolan but then sacrifice using Bale.

This is a great question, one to which I do not have answer and have looked for one myself. I also do not understand why they are using the same writers from the GL movie which was not received well.

All of the blame for that film has fallen on Martin Campbell and Stuart Baird. The writers came out of it untouched because mainly the Parallax inclusions were under the directive of Geoff Johns.

 

[Radagaster]

I think most of us are forgetting that the material for Nolan's Batman trilogy is based mostly on Frank Miller's comics origins revamp -- ie, the brooding dark aspect.

Again, if WB hires the correct writers to pen it, the right director to helm it, and the correct actors to play it, then getting a good solid JLA movie may be reachable. The chances of those 3 happening are slim however with the way WB's going about it.

 

[KneelBeforrSmallville]

It honestly just looks like WB is shopping around there writers they have to pen a couple DC hero scripts, i mean we keep hearing so & so are penning a GL 2, a wonderwomen and a bunch of other characters, but no movies have been made, recently we have the Batmans that are great, a GL flop that was ok and could do a better sequel and a MOS in production.

WB has so many scripts for these kind of movies, remember the Worlds Finest script? Until i see a greenlight or director in talks time will tell.

 

[intothevoid]

Everything Nolan has done is better than anything Marvel has put out so I'd be down for giving him the power to oversee production on all.

I liked Avengers a lot, but I don't want to see a JLA movie like that. Not at all.

If Nolan helmed Wonder Woman with Joss Whedon the way he's doing for Zack Snyder in Man of Steel, I think by the time things are nailed down, he could come up with a sick JLA. It wouldn't have to be anti-hero, but he could get away with it being dark as hell. Personally, that is the best context to backdrop the big three. Cerebral done successfully would be epic, period.

if they have Batman battling the JLA to discover their weaknesses. Something like that would be more suited to Nolan and his style.

And watching Bruce Wayne maintain that perspective in dealing with things so far outside of his expectations would be too awesome for words.

I would try, but I don't want to break the forum.

A thousand times yes.

 

[devilof76]

Have you not been reading this and the other DC/WB threads?

I have.

WB is the one who is overcomplicating everything and on top of it they want JL out in 2015 last time I checked which puts everything above in a three year window.

Warner Bros. is who I'm addressing when I say it doesn't need to be so complicated. I know what they're doing, I just thing it's wrong.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Didn't Bale recently state he is done with the Batman after this third movie? I thought I read that somewhere.

Bale recently said he'd be up for number 4 if Nolan had a story to tell. He might've been blowing smoke at an interviewer, though ... knowing Nolan is out.

The real question here isn't Bale's availability. The question is how TDKR will end. TDKR has to end open-ended for Bale's Batman to even fit in a JLA movie. Can't reprise the role if Nolan's Bruce Wayne is permanently retired, physically broken, or dead. If TDKR has an ending conducive to Nolan's Batman continuing ... then the question becomes about Nolan's and Bale's availability, neither of which is very likely.

I think the chances of Christian Bale's Batman appearing in either a fourth Batman movie or a Justice League movie are slim-to-none. His Batman's story was not intended to be in a larger DC Universe -- and, as I understand it, Nolan's story is done. There's a slightly better chance of having the same version of Batman appear with another actor ... like Edward Norton/ Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner. Odds are they'll just re-launch Batman with another actor, and make him sign on to several Batman movies and a Justice League movie at the outset.

The last two guys other than Bale that were rumored to be cast as Bruce Wayne were Armie Hammer in a canceled JLA movie, and Karl Urban in a TV show.

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