JUSTICE LEAGUE movie

[thenammagazine]

Sounds promising to me

 

[devilof76]

Imagine more movies where boring villains like Lex Luthor are the enemies because the "realistic approach" won't allow for the more fantastical villains that would be worthy of a Justice League movie. Sounds like WB's planning to leave that dirty diaper on every fan's doorstep.

I think a better characterization of Nolan's approach would be to say he treats the unrealistic realistically. His approach is camp/cheese-free.

If the JLA can have a solar powered alien and an Amazonian princess given life by the gods, Brainiac is not out of the question. What's more, he won't be presented tongue-in-cheek. Personally, they can keep their fantasy approach if they aren't going to take it seriously.

 

[thenammagazine]

I think a better characterization of Nolan's approach would be to say he treats the unrealistic realistically. His approach is camp/cheese-free.

2-face wasn't cheese free. And look how far off the source material he had to go for Joker (and how far he's gone for Bane). No thanks.

If the JLA can have a solar powered alien and an Amazonian princess given life by the gods, Brainiac is not out of the question.

Given Superman can single-handedly deal with Braniac, I don't see how he'd pose a threat great enough to need the entire JLA to stop him, let alone spark its creation.

 

[devilof76]

Uh...make a Brainiac threat bigger than what Superman can handle?

 

[intothevoid]

I think a better characterization of Nolan's approach would be to say he treats the unrealistic realistically. His approach is camp/cheese-free.

If the JLA can have a solar powered alien and an Amazonian princess given life by the gods, Brainiac is not out of the question. What's more, he won't be presented tongue-in-cheek. Personally, they can keep their fantasy approach if they aren't going to take it seriously.

I think people generalise Nolans approach a bit too much

Just because he took a certain angle with Batman doesn't mean that's the way he would approach a JLA film

Like I said before, Man of Steel will show us a lot about his versatility and whether he's the man for a JLA film, given that he co-wrote the story

 

[thenammagazine]

I think people generalise Nolans approach a bit too much

Just because he took a certain angle with Batman doesn't mean that's the way he would approach a JLA film

Like I said before, Man of Steel will show us a lot about his versatility and whether he's the man for a JLA film, given that he co-wrote the story

MoS won't really prove if he is or he isn't. Goyer's the main writer there (and who's to say Nolan didn't pass it back to him to deal with the more fantasy elements). And that still doesn't prove anything because JLA would be an ensemble pic whereas the Batmans and MoS are only single characters.

 

[The Mike]

Man of Steel proves absolutely nothing about Christopher Nolan. He is a producer, he is a name on the back of the chair that most times goes empty. Goyer is the writer and Snyder is the director and anything that comes from it especially visually is all Snyder whether it succeeds or fails.

That's like giving Bryan Singer the credit for X-Men: First Class when he was just producer despite Vaughn bringing it all to life.

 

[karamazov80]

Just because he took a certain angle with Batman doesn't mean that's the way he would approach a JLA film

Like I said before, Man of Steel will show us a lot about his versatility and whether he's the man for a JLA film, given that he co-wrote the story

So did he, or didn't he co-write MOS (hopefully not to soon be known as "POS"! ).

If so, then this will be the first time Nolan has ventured away from complex, moody, reasonably dark terrain. Nolan is extremely good at what he does! He just doesn't do movies that fit into the spirit of the vast majority of Earth 1 Justice League stories. But if his influence is more administrative as a producer, than I'm not sure that tells us much about how he would handle directing another, related film.

 

[The Mike]

Nolan gets a writing credit for "story" but Goyer did both the story and screenplay. That is very different than the Batman stories where he was actually credited as a screenwriter because he had so much to do with the process. At this point he might have just been a sounding board for Goyer in general.

This tells us more about his administrative role in the film than the actual creative side.

 

[intothevoid]

Nolan gets a writing credit for "story" but Goyer did both the story and screenplay. That is very different than the Batman stories where he was actually credited as a screenwriter because he had so much to do with the process. At this point he might have just been a sounding board for Goyer in general.

This tells us more about his administrative role in the film than the actual creative side.

But you don't have proof either way, do you

Guess we'll find out a little more during the press process for MoS how much input Nolan actually had into the story

 

[The Mike]

What is that? You don't have proof do you? I don't have proof that the ghost of Bob Kane didn't sit with Nolan and tell him what to write for The Dark Knight Rises, then again I don't have proof that he didn't, he (Kane) has a story credit.

I understand the fandom for Nolan but let's not get ridiculous with it. The man received a story credit and nothing more, given that with every Goyer script that has been done Nolan and Goyer both openly admitted that he ripped it apart and restitched things together, that isn't happening here and since Snyder isn't getting a writing credit then obviously this is all Goyer by proxy.

 

[thenammagazine]

But you don't have proof either way, do you

Guess we'll find out a little more during the press process for MoS how much input Nolan actually had into the story

That goes both ways, bucko. And we have Nolan's body of work that backs our argument. You? N.A.D.A.

 

[intothevoid]

What is that? You don't have proof do you? I don't have proof that the ghost of Bob Kane didn't sit with Nolan and tell him what to write for The Dark Knight Rises, then again I don't have proof that he didn't, he (Kane) has a story credit.

I understand the fandom for Nolan but let's not get ridiculous with it. The man received a story credit and nothing more, given that with every Goyer script that has been done Nolan and Goyer both openly admitted that he ripped it apart and restitched things together, that isn't happening here and since Snyder isn't getting a writing credit then obviously this is all Goyer by proxy.

That is an absurd analogy

It's very simple. The only info we have is that Nolan and Goyer CO-WROTE Man of Steel.

- Nolan doesn't even have a writing credit on Batman Begins. That was purely Goyer's story.
- Nolan has had writing credits (along with his brother) on TDK and TDKR.

Therefore, MoS is not purely Goyer's story. Unless we hear otherwise and whatever Nolan's story contributions were are revealed to have been scrapped in the final script, this is not in any way PURELY Goyer's story.

 

[Radagaster]

One would think that if they billed it and it shows in the credits, then it MUST be. I mean, wouldn't these prima-donnas be in an uproar if they don't get the credit if they felt they were part of it? In that case, if they say they're the writers, and they show up in the credits, then that's that.

 

[karamazov80]

Well, some involved in the creative process actually request to be taken off the credits for one reason or another. Nolan doesn't really need the credit on his resume to get work or anything, so it's feasible he would allow someone else to take full credit even if he did play a significant role. And actually, as I learned watching the special features for Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, there can be some very odd issues associated with being in the Screen Writer's Guild that can, in some instances, allow someone who had very little if any real influence on the final product to be listed as a writer on a film.

 

[Darklord Dave]

For a director (or producer) to get writing credit on a story or screenplay they have to contribute significantly to it, as per the WGA arbitration rules for writing credits. Much more so than a writer.

For example - on Batman Returns -Sam Hamm (the original Batman 89 writer) did a screenplay. Tim Burton mandated that it be set in winter and have Catwoman and Penguin in it. The final movie bears no resemblance to Sam Hamm's screenplay, but because it included the elements mandated by the director, Hamm got story credit. It wasn't Burton that got story credit.

 

[Khev]

For example - on Batman Returns -Sam Hamm (the original Batman 89 writer) did a screenplay. Tim Burton mandated that it be set in winter and have Catwoman and Penguin in it. The final movie bears no resemblance to Sam Hamm's screenplay, but because it included the elements mandated by the director, Hamm got story credit. It wasn't Burton that got story credit.

Interesting. So who was the original villain if not the Penguin or Catwoman? I can't imagine it was ever Shreck by himself.

 

[EVILFACE]

As great as Nolan has been (hasn't directed a bad movie), I hope he doesn't do much with Justice League. Nothing Nolan has done is fun.

Like Avengers, JLA need to be fun.

It also needs humor. Like Stark asking how Fury looks at dual monitors. TDK had a few funny parts to me, when the Tumbler says "goodbye" to Batman and then blows up and the "they should. I own the place" line.

I also hope that the JLA version of Batman is wearing Blue/Gray or Black/Gray. Enough with the all black body armor.

 

[Khev]

Has anyone ever photoshopped Bale or Keaton's suits to look blue/grey or black/grey? Its hard to imagine that looking cool but I'd love to see someone pull it off.

 

[EVILFACE]

Not sure. Using a dark pallet, I think the outfits would look good on screen.

Somethink like Elvis's custom would look great. If they want armor, call it some tactical kevlar mesh or some other mumbo jumbo.