devilof76
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JUSTICE LEAGUE movie
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I dont think JL will work well as a film, Superman alone is too powerful adding other super powerful heroes in isn't gonna help this. Superman's powers need dialing back imo if it's gonna work. Then Manhunter, Wonder Women and the others need to be realistic, i'm a huge skeptic of this happening and a even bigger skeptic of it working.
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that is the problem with superman, he is the kitchen sink of superheroes, has every power, almost nothing can break him, can go back in time,
then batman is on the other side of things, no powers at all, no matter how many gadgets he has, he will be in a league with a flash, and a God (superman)
i dont know if this could be like avengers, they would need really good writers,
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If this movie can not bring the same awesomness as the trailer for the DC Universe Online game then they shouldn't bother.
it's a big problem with most DC heroes imo, they lack that human touch, even Batman in recent times has become unbeatable and having a solution for everything. It's great at making him seem amazing and on par with the hero's he works with but he loses that human touch, everybody makes mistakes or fails.
With Superman i've always disliked that nearly every medium has used the Green rock to beat, it's a kop out imo, i like Superman in the toons most of the time but like you said to bring this into a lie action film they would need one hell of a set of writers to combine all these super powerful heroes and give them a threat big enough to make it seem like they could lose. And not the flying Starfish.....
With Superman i've always disliked that nearly every medium has used the Green rock to beat, it's a kop out imo, i like Superman in the toons most of the time but like you said to bring this into a lie action film they would need one hell of a set of writers to combine all these super powerful heroes and give them a threat big enough to make it seem like they could lose. And not the flying Starfish.....
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Agree. That is one of the greatest comic book related sequences ever created. Just play it for a hour on loop.
Too bad the game is meh.
devilof76
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The DC Universe opening is what convinced me how awesome and realistic a Justice League movie can be.
thenammagazine
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Say what? I thought you were one of the guys saying that Bats and Superman had to be part of the JLA for it to work for WB.This is exactly why Batman should be the antagonist for the first film.
intothevoid
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And by the end of the film, they would be
So Batman starts out opposing the JLA then joins up at the end? Sounds great. . .if we're talking about an '80s cartoon.
thenammagazine
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No, the whole movie is about Batman realizing the threat the JLA could pose if they turn evil and spends the movie trying to figure out each hero's weakness. By the end he does and they ask him to join them after understanding his actions. It's also a great opportunity to introduce every hero, their identities and their powers.
That's an interesting idea as a twist to the whole Tower of Babel story. But on its face, it doesn't seem like it would work to me. I can understand him wanting to join, because he could then be in a better position to take them down if need-be, but I don't see this being the formula for a very cohesive team unit. Plus, if you did that, then you preclude the ability to do the awesome Tower of Babel story later on, once the franchise theoretically got rolling.
And if they go that route, you start out with the JLA in existence I guess? Never explaining why they needed to form to begin with? Origin stories are necessary for folks unfamiliar with a character, and with a team IMO.
intothevoid
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The origin could be weaved into it, I can see it work really well actually + it would be different from Avengers which IMO it needs to be
I'm having a real tough time imagining how you could you create an origin story subplot, and have this primary plot of Batman trying to take the team down in the same movie. That feels a whole lot like two different movies. And if it is all about Batman, then I guess there's no real villain in that proposed film?
And there are lots of ways it could be done differently than the Avengers, but the theme of super powered guys needing to band together against a threat they can't handle alone is the necessary starting point.
And there are lots of ways it could be done differently than the Avengers, but the theme of super powered guys needing to band together against a threat they can't handle alone is the necessary starting point.
thenammagazine
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That's the only way starting with the team as a unit works. Maybe they're still recruiting (maybe just Superman and Wonder Woman) as Batman's challenging the rest. It works perfectly and I really don't see how it couldn't work on the big screen so long as the heroes aren't hokey. As far as the need for them to exist, it's a precautionary measure in case of a world threat. Same reason Batman has to discover everybody's identities and weaknesses. So that takes care of itself.
As far as antagonist, that falls on Batman as the heroes will see him as a threat until he shares his motive at the end. Given the heroes would be less than forthcoming if he shared it at the beginning, it makes perfect sense. And once done, to prove his intentions, Batman turns the data over to the Justice League and they invite him into the folds. It writes itself, really.
Even with the Authority, Ellis knew the readers wouldn't get behind a team forming with preventative/pre-emptive ambitions without first having experiences with real global threats to force their hand. I don't think the movie-going audience is gonna go for the idea that these god-like characters band together, just in case. Seems like a great process if you want to turn them into the Justice Lords, but it makes them out to seem too paranoid for my taste.
I really think the JLA will need a legit villain in the first film. In fact, I can not imagine a film studio not giving them one.As far as antagonist, that falls on Batman as the heroes will see him as a threat until he shares his motive at the end. Given the heroes would be less than forthcoming if he shared it at the beginning, it makes perfect sense. And once done, to prove his intentions, Batman turns the data over to the Justice League and they invite him into the folds. It writes itself, really.
thenammagazine
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So lead off with Batman targeting them to discover their identities and weaknesses. That alone gives them reason to join forces, since single-handedly he can best every one of them.
So their reason to exist is to collectively ensure that no one can kill their respective members?
Sounds like some of you want the plot of the Avengers movie but with Batman in the Hulk's role and no greater villain pulling the strings. No thanks...
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