JUSTICE LEAGUE movie

[Kamandi]

That could really work if they actually followed through and spun off individual movies from the first JL.

They need to at least introduce Lex in MoS.

 

[LoneWolf]

They can still use Brainiac in JL2, but yeah, would've preferred Darkseid as the main villain in the JL trilogy (if it'll be a trilogy).


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[intothevoid]

Bad move. Darkseid is the top of the totem pole. There's no place to go up from there. Not a baddie they should have used for the first film.

Nolan's Batman films made the same mistake using Joker in the second film. You just can't follow Joker with Bane.

Darkseid is the biggest badass in the DC universe. What do you do for JLA2?

One of my big problems with TDKR is Bruce quiting - twice. I don't believe he would quit over what happened to Racheal in the previous film. Any writer at DC, even the crappy ones, know such a thing would only add fuel to Bruce's obsession.

I also don't buy the notion he would quit after being trapped and powerless in the pit. But then he saves the day and gets cozzy with Selina and now he's happy.

So Bruce was sad and he quit, then he gets happy and quits again?

I sure hope Superman isn't an emo guy tormented by the responsibility of helping people with his powers.

Oh, wait...


Can we just have a clean break for JLA please?

...

He quit once

The first time he wasn't needed any more
There is a massive difference

And TDKR followed up just fine - by shifting the focus back to Bruce

 

[Khev]

He quit once

The first time he wasn't needed any more
There is a massive difference

And TDKR followed up just fine - by shifting the focus back to Bruce

Yep. I remember watching Batman Begins in 2005 (you know, the one that is supposedly the best Batman movie "evah") and I remember being so impressed but also thinking, "wow, the way they've presented him with the punishment he endures on a nightly basis, that guy's got a shelf life of 5-7 years tops." Which means at some point Bruce would just take too much and die. And Gotham would have no protector, no Batman ever again. "Bruce" would be the badass who went down fighting or he could set up a never-ending system where *somebody* is always there, guarding the night, doing what he does. And TDKR followed through on that to it's ultimate conclusion.

It could have done a better job of having Bruce actually training his replacement (and what a perfect explanation for why the current Batman always has a younger sidekick, it'd be like the Sith "only two" rule but cool) but nevertheless the concept of him retiring before he goes over the hill and only when someone presents himself to take over is sound.

 

[intothevoid]

Yep. I remember watching Batman Begins in 2005 (you know, the one that is supposedly the best Batman movie "evah") and I remember being so impressed but also thinking, "wow, the way they've presented him with the punishment he endures on a nightly basis, that guy's got a shelf life of 5-7 years tops." Which means at some point Bruce would just take too much and die. And Gotham would have no protector, no Batman ever again. "Bruce" would be the badass who went down fighting or he could set up a never-ending system where *somebody* is always there, guarding the night, doing what he does. And TDKR followed through on that to it's ultimate conclusion.

It could have done a better job of having Bruce actually training his replacement (and what a perfect explanation for why the current Batman always has a younger sidekick, it'd be like the Sith "only two" rule but cool) but nevertheless the concept of him retiring before he goes over the hill and only when someone presents himself to take over is sound.

That's actually a great way to think about a 'realistic' Robin.

 

[DiFabio]

Instead of a shelf life of 7 years though, he had 1. Cool story.

Batman, I'm disappoint. You had so much potential after TDK. You suck bro.

 

[Adolfo]

Instead of a shelf life of 7 years though, he had 1. Cool story.

Batman, I'm disappoint. You had so much potential after TDK. You suck bro.

Again with the negative waves...

 

[DiFabio]

Yep.

....

 

[carbo-fation]

It's ok. Let him get all his negativity out of his system before the Hobbit comes out. I don't want him to ruin that thread.

 

[DiFabio]

Yeah, because I've said negative things about the Hobbit and Lord of The Rings in the Hobbit thread.

 

[carbo-fation]

Yeah, because I've said negative things about the Hobbit and Lord of The Rings in the Hobbit thread.

No, but you might! There's always a chance......

 

[EVILFACE]

Instead of a shelf life of 7 years though, he had 1. Cool story.

Batman, I'm disappoint. You had so much potential after TDK. You suck bro.

Batman is off in France sipping tea with a criminal that helped get his spine crushed.

 

[DiFabio]

Not Batman is off in France sipping tea with a criminal that helped get his spine crushed.

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Good post, but you had a little error in there that I had to fix.

 

[Khev]

Instead of a shelf life of 7 years though, he had 1. Cool story.

Batman, I'm disappoint. You had so much potential after TDK. You suck bro.

Yeah but in the few short hours he was Batman, he loved a lifetime's worth.

 

[DiFabio]

Yeah but in the few short hours he was Batman, he loved a lifetime's worth.

 

[Khev]

"I know now why you quit, but it is something I can never do."

In all seriousness though TDKR clearly portrayed the 7-8 years since TDK as being a Gotham City that didn't need a Batman. When it finally did again he was far enough past his prime that he was on the verge of a replacement. I don't see the problem.

 

[KneelBeforrSmallville]

Terminator Quotes + Batman Mythology =

 

[DiFabio]

They only did the 8 year thing for two reasons.

1. Ledger died (they wanted audiences and characters to move on from the idea that Joker was absent)

2. Joseph Levitt Gordon (His character would be useless if it was only a few years after TDK because he'd still be a kid)



He wasn't needed because it's simply written that way. The Mayor said that there's still crime, just not organized crime. So Bruce didn't quit because there wasn't anything to fight, he quit because of RAAAAAAAACHEL. Well that, and if it is true that he quit because he doesn't fight anything but organized crime then that makes him even more lame and useless.


Which in itself is a really crappy thing. This guy became Batman because he saw his parents die in cold blood. So his good friend (this wasn't even his girlfriend or wife) dies and he quits and stays at home? If anything, her death would make him even more enraged and he'd REALLY pursue crime as Batman. She was against crime just as much as Batman, she was a freaking assistant DA. That's what is cool about TDK. After she dies, he's forced to move on and he REALLY gets into character as Batman. The whole final act he's in total Batman mode and it ends with Batman becoming a "Dark Knight". TDKR scraps it.


The 8 years is just a cop out so people don't question anything. It's a simple, lame reason for points 1 and 2. Other cop outs include, "I WAITED FOR YOU WITH THIS DRINK, IN ITALY TO SEE IF YOU WERE HAPPY WITH A WIFE IN BATMAN BEGINS" and the awful, "I KNEW WHO YOU WERE BY LOOKING AT YOUR EYES . . . WHEN I WAS A BOI . . . DURING BATMAN BEGINS".

 

[thenammagazine]

They only did the 8 year thing for two reasons.

1. Ledger died (they wanted audiences and characters to move on from the idea that Joker was absent)

2. Joseph Levitt Gordon (His character would be useless if it was only a few years after TDK because he'd still be a kid)



He wasn't needed because it's simply written that way. The Mayor said that there's still crime, just not organized crime. So Bruce didn't quit because there wasn't anything to fight, he quit because of RAAAAAAAACHEL. Well that, and if it is true that he quit because he doesn't fight anything but organized crime then that makes him even more lame and useless.


Which in itself is a really crappy thing. This guy became Batman because he saw his parents die in cold blood. So his good friend (this wasn't even his girlfriend or wife) dies and he quits and stays at home? If anything, her death would make him even more enraged and he'd REALLY pursue crime as Batman. She was against crime just as much as Batman, she was a freaking assistant DA. That's what is cool about TDK. After she dies, he's forced to move on and he REALLY gets into character as Batman. The whole final act he's in total Batman mode and it ends with Batman becoming a "Dark Knight". TDKR scraps it.


The 8 years is just a cop out so people don't question anything. It's a simple, lame reason for points 1 and 2. Other cop outs include, "I WAITED FOR YOU WITH THIS DRINK, IN ITALY TO SEE IF YOU WERE HAPPY WITH A WIFE IN BATMAN BEGINS" and the awful, "I KNEW WHO YOU WERE BY LOOKING AT YOUR EYES . . . WHEN I WAS A BOI . . . DURING BATMAN BEGINS".

 

[DiFabio]

Why is he crying? Because of Rachel?

He should be out of his costume and quit.