Kong: Skull Island <<SPOILERS>>
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Apocalypse Now is my favorite movie of all time, and seeing the poster for this finally got me interested enough to check out the trailer. It's pretty shocking to see that it even looks like the story is heavily inspired by The Heart of Darkness, which is pretty cool. They should have named this movie Kurtz Kong
Only thing I hate with these big monster movies is when they cast these huge stars that play the most generic characters and aren't ever in any real danger in the movie. Movies like this would really benefit from casting unknowns.
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Apocalypse Now is my favorite movie of all time, and seeing the poster for this finally got me interested enough to check out the trailer. It's pretty shocking to see that it even looks like the story is heavily inspired by The Heart of Darkness, which is pretty cool. They should have named this movie Kurtz Kong
Only thing I hate with these big monster movies is when they cast these huge stars that play the most generic characters and aren't ever in any real danger in the movie. Movies like this would really benefit from casting unknowns.
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The Clown Prince of Crime
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Meh...nothing interesting happened until 1989 and 2008.
Not everything from the 70's and 80's should be celebrated.
Meh...nothing interesting happened until 1989 and 2008.
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Agreed. Tango & Cash and The House Bunny are the pinnacles of cinematic entertainment.
Meh...nothing interesting happened until 1989 and 2008.
Agreed. Tango & Cash and The House Bunny are the pinnacles of cinematic entertainment.
jye4ever
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As much as I love the MCU and BB/TDK I would never choose them over the movies from my youth.
Meh...nothing interesting happened until 1989 and 2008.
As much as I love the MCU and BB/TDK I would never choose them over the movies from my youth.
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Teri Hatcher was so hot in that film.
Yeah, as much as I like MCU CA or Baleman, my favorite movie heroes are Sly/Arnie.
Teri Hatcher was so hot in that film.
Yeah, as much as I like MCU CA or Baleman, my favorite movie heroes are Sly/Arnie.
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The Dark Knight is overrated af
Meh...nothing interesting happened until 1989 and 2008.
The Dark Knight is overrated af
jye4ever
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I'll take Alyssa Milano.
Teri Hatcher was so hot in that film.
Yeah, as much as I like MCU CA or Baleman, my favorite movie heroes are Sly/Arnie.
I'll take Alyssa Milano.
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jye4ever
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Nothing the Russo's can deliver in IW or E8/9 can replace me seeing all these movies opening night or week:
Jaws
OT
Raiders
TOD
Airplane
History of the World
Excalibur
CTB
Halloween 1
Close Encounters
Star Trek 2 WOK
STM 1/2
F13th 1/2/3/4
The Thing
Terminator 1
Commando
Road Warrior
Rocky 1/2/3/4
Beverly Hills Cop
Trading Places
Animal House
Predator
Die Hard 1
Robocop 1
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Police Academy
Ferrs Bueller's Day Off
Rambo 1/2/3
Fright Night
The Reanimator
The Howling
The Fly
American Werewolf in London
Batman 89
T2
From 1975 to 1991, nothing could ever replace those incredibly wonderful 16 years for me.
Seriously, just look at that insane list, nothing can touch that.
I'll just make believe Blade, TWS and CW were released in 1991.
She was so hot in those lesbian movies of hers.
Teri Hatcher was so hot in that film.
Yeah, as much as I like MCU CA or Baleman, my favorite movie heroes are Sly/Arnie.
Nothing the Russo's can deliver in IW or E8/9 can replace me seeing all these movies opening night or week:
Jaws
OT
Raiders
TOD
Airplane
History of the World
Excalibur
CTB
Halloween 1
Close Encounters
Star Trek 2 WOK
STM 1/2
F13th 1/2/3/4
The Thing
Terminator 1
Commando
Road Warrior
Rocky 1/2/3/4
Beverly Hills Cop
Trading Places
Animal House
Predator
Die Hard 1
Robocop 1
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Police Academy
Ferrs Bueller's Day Off
Rambo 1/2/3
Fright Night
The Reanimator
The Howling
The Fly
American Werewolf in London
Batman 89
T2
From 1975 to 1991, nothing could ever replace those incredibly wonderful 16 years for me.
Seriously, just look at that insane list, nothing can touch that.
I'll just make believe Blade, TWS and CW were released in 1991.
Get it???
She was so hot in those lesbian movies of hers.
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The Clown Prince of Crime
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That's a great list for sure. You didn't see Back to the Future or E.T.?
Yes, nothing the Russo's can deliver in IW or E8/9 can replace those lesbian movies of her
That's a great list for sure. You didn't see Back to the Future or E.T.?
She was so hot in those lesbian movies of hers.
Yes, nothing the Russo's can deliver in IW or E8/9 can replace those lesbian movies of her
jye4ever
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Oops, forgot Back to the Future.
ET I did not as I was too cool for a kids movie, I was supporting The Thing instead that year.
I added The Fly onto my list.
I also left Gremlins off the list. I loved that movie on release but recently revisited it and it did not hold up at all.
Oops, forgot Back to the Future.
ET I did not as I was too cool for a kids movie, I was supporting The Thing instead that year.
I added The Fly onto my list.
I also left Gremlins off the list. I loved that movie on release but recently revisited it and it did not hold up at all.
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I'd argue that creatures made during the 70s and 80s with practical effects hold more personal value to people than the CGI renderings of today. I love the Hulk in the MCU movies, but Lou Ferrigno in makeup will always be more dear to me. All the photo-realistic sharks in the world will never mean anything to me like Bruce from JAWS. The barely mobile Jabba from Return of the Jedi beats any CGI rendering of him ever done.
Creatures made with practical effects may not have looked like real life creatures or truly alive, but they have a quality that resonates more after you're done watching the movie they've come from. My most favorite Godzilla's ever were a man in a suit. Of my all time favorite film creatures, I think the only one that's only been CGI is Draco from Dragonheart, and that's part design, part Connery's voice performance.
I'd argue that creatures made during the 70s and 80s with practical effects hold more personal value to people than the CGI renderings of today. I love the Hulk in the MCU movies, but Lou Ferrigno in makeup will always be more dear to me. All the photo-realistic sharks in the world will never mean anything to me like Bruce from JAWS. The barely mobile Jabba from Return of the Jedi beats any CGI rendering of him ever done.
Creatures made with practical effects may not have looked like real life creatures or truly alive, but they have a quality that resonates more after you're done watching the movie they've come from. My most favorite Godzilla's ever were a man in a suit. Of my all time favorite film creatures, I think the only one that's only been CGI is Draco from Dragonheart, and that's part design, part Connery's voice performance.
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The effects still hold up on Gremlins
Oops, forgot Back to the Future.
ET I did not as I was too cool for a kids movie, I was supporting The Thing instead that year.
I also left Gremlins off the list. I loved that movie on release but recently revisited it and it did not hold up at all.
The effects still hold up on Gremlins
jye4ever
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Yeah for the most part you're right, especially from Predator, Aliens and The Thing,
But look at Jurassic Park, perfect mix of animatronics and cgi.
Regarding Godzilla while I get where you're coming from and yes his 54 suit will always reign supreme I do think it's ok to bring monsters like Godzilla and Kong into the world of realistic looking cgi.
That I can agree with plus I never get tired of 80's Phoebe Cates...
Paradise
Yeah for the most part you're right, especially from Predator, Aliens and The Thing,
But look at Jurassic Park, perfect mix of animatronics and cgi.
Regarding Godzilla while I get where you're coming from and yes his 54 suit will always reign supreme I do think it's ok to bring monsters like Godzilla and Kong into the world of realistic looking cgi.
That I can agree with plus I never get tired of 80's Phoebe Cates...
Paradise
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I'm not against CGI by nature, I just feel that sometimes CGI artist lose a certain cinematic quality to creatures that the artists who had to pull it off with practical effects managed to capture.
Done right, CGI can still carry those qualities. For my, Godzilla 2014 and 2016 as well as Kong 2017 are good examples. They have greater details and overall realism than a man in suit pulled off in the past, but I still look at them and feel the same excitement I got from the men in suits. When it first came out, I was excited about Peter Jackson's Kong, but to be honest, over time it's faded a bit for me. I love the added emotion and character they gave Kong with CGI, which adds emotion to the viewing experience, but my feelings towards the creature as a Hollywood creation are just like, ok, so it's a big monkey. The Skull Island Kong looks like a marriage of the '33 and '76 designs to me and wows me. The face is clearly drawn from the '33 and his posture and overall frame look a lot like the '76.
So I welcome CGI, I would just like to see the studios producing it to develop that same cinematic sense that the practical effects guys had. Speaking of Jurassic Park, that's part of the success there, you had Stan Winston and Phil Tippet working closely with ILM, so despite use of CGI, the creative team was heavily filled with practical effects artist and some of the best in the game and it paid off.
I'm not against CGI by nature, I just feel that sometimes CGI artist lose a certain cinematic quality to creatures that the artists who had to pull it off with practical effects managed to capture.
Done right, CGI can still carry those qualities. For my, Godzilla 2014 and 2016 as well as Kong 2017 are good examples. They have greater details and overall realism than a man in suit pulled off in the past, but I still look at them and feel the same excitement I got from the men in suits. When it first came out, I was excited about Peter Jackson's Kong, but to be honest, over time it's faded a bit for me. I love the added emotion and character they gave Kong with CGI, which adds emotion to the viewing experience, but my feelings towards the creature as a Hollywood creation are just like, ok, so it's a big monkey. The Skull Island Kong looks like a marriage of the '33 and '76 designs to me and wows me. The face is clearly drawn from the '33 and his posture and overall frame look a lot like the '76.
So I welcome CGI, I would just like to see the studios producing it to develop that same cinematic sense that the practical effects guys had. Speaking of Jurassic Park, that's part of the success there, you had Stan Winston and Phil Tippet working closely with ILM, so despite use of CGI, the creative team was heavily filled with practical effects artist and some of the best in the game and it paid off.
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