LOST discussion - thar be spoilers ahead!

[El Skutto]

I see you're point now. You're talking about character motivations and we're talking about the paradox.

Precisely. If they're trying to change the future, then they're doing a really bad job of it.

Time travel stories hurt my brain...

 

[Moonloop]

Time travel stories hurt my brain...

Tell me about it!

 

[Entropy]

Which is why I'll be happy when they return to the present. The 'what happened, happened' stuff is cool but limiting. The big question of next week "will they stop the Incident?" seems dramatically a bit empty knowing /believing that events cannot change. So the fun comes with the details and the how it happens rather than what happens.

And when is Jacob going to re-emerge in the story?

 

[Kratos]

Lost hurts my head but I love it

 

[GrueSam]

My hunch is that that LOST is going end with the plane crash of 815 on the island and it starts all over again...

But then I read this:

The season 3 episode ''Flashes Before Your Eyes'' established that Eloise has long possessed knowledge of future events, although last night, we learned that she is no longer the seer that she used to be. ''For the first time in a long time I don't know what's going to happen next,'' she told Penelope.

from Entertainment Weekly.

https://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1550612_20245769_20275722,00.html?xid=email-alert-lost-20090430-item1

But first, I want to talk about the Wired magazine cameo. We saw it on Faraday's couch, just as Widmore took a seat and offered his noodle-cooked son passage to Brain Healing Island aboard his Black Freighter of Keamy Death. It was the August 2003 issue of Wired — ''The Super-Powers Issue'' — devoted to the plausible science behind far-fetched stuff like invisibility, X-ray vision, and yes, time travel. The cover featured an archetypal superhero blasting white light out of his Cyclops-visored eyes and breaking a link of chain with his Man of Steel bare hands. The headline: ''The Impossible Gets Real!''
Now, it's probably not a coincidence that an old issue of Wired made an appearance in an episode of Lost airing the same month that the current issue of Wired features one JJ Abrams as its guest editor. But why did Lost choose this particular back issue for its latest rewind, pause, and squint Easter-egg clue? Well, there's the time travel article, which spotlights the two theories favored by most Lostologists, Throne Plates and Kerr Rings. There's also this cover-touted article, ''The End of Cancer As We Know It,'' which can be found on...Page 108. Cancer, of course, has haunted Lost since season 1; and 108 is the sum total of all Lost's numbers (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42) and integral to the mystery of the Hatch. (''Every 108 minutes, a button must be pushed...'') But for me, it's all about ''The Impossible Gets Real!'' Two weeks ago, I wondered if the ominous ebony uniforms of Dharma's Black Swan team could be a nod to a book called The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable. Now, with Wired, we have two consecutive episodes that feature a coy clue foreshadowing the imminent arrival of an extremely unlikely, yet not-at-all implausible, game-changing event.

FUN FACT! In the aforementioned Wired issue, one of eight abilities profiled in an article on plausible super-powers is total recall — rather ironic in light of Faraday's memory issues in the episode. Also featured: teleportation (see: Jack and co. getting beamed off the plane), regeneration (see: John Locke's legs; the Island's quick-healing powers), weather manipulation (see: meteorology was one of Dharma's fields of study); force fields (see: the sonic fence); underwater breathing (see: Charlie swimming toward the Looking-Glass); super-strength (see: Desmond, battling back a worse-than-it-appeared gunshot wound to beat the bloody snot out of Ben). As for the eighth power, x-ray vision: Smokey?

 

[Darth Caedus]

And when is Jacob going to re-emerge in the story?

YES !!!!! Jacob will be in the last 3 episodes in the season

 

[Moonloop]

My hunch is that that LOST is going end with the plane crash of 815 on the island and it starts all over again...

That is exactly how the video game, LOST: Via Domus ended. For the writers to use the exact same ending as the video game would be really lame. It's a great ending for a game, but for a 6 season long show it would be a huge cop out.

 

[Entropy]

I love that The Button, after seasons 1 & 2, has become prominent again. Surely it's destruction has yet to be revealed deeper and more substantial effects for the island.

 

[Kratos]

I think in the end the whole thing will play out again in another time and continue in a never ending cycle

 

[Memnoch]

I still think that the last season will see them move to the "future" of the Island or something for a final battle for control of the island. There is SOMETHING about the flaming arrows that makes me think they are important. One way or the other I think there will be some kind of loops that ends up creating EVERY situation on the Island and that is why Richard is so passive and measured.

 

[Darth Caedus]

I don't think it will end with them getting off the plane. That would be the losties' "past". You can't change your own "past", if you did, your present and future would be different. So I don't think that will happen.

 

[Entropy]

I still think that the last season will see them move to the "future" of the Island or something for a final battle for control of the island. There is SOMETHING about the flaming arrows that makes me think they are important. One way or the other I think there will be some kind of loops that ends up creating EVERY situation on the Island and that is why Richard is so passive and measured.

I think the best way to wrap these stories up is with an apocalyptic battle for the prize. The Widmore/Ben conflict is the heart of the myth, so a 815ers landing safely in LA type of ending won't cut it.

I agree that, once the Losties are all back together in the present time, presumably what this season finale resolves, some conflict in season 6 has to top the freighter folk attack of season 4. The flaming arrow stuff I could see them resolving this season in the finale with a Richard or Jacob flashback. I still think the destruction of the anomaly was the beginning of the end for the island. A season 6 final confrontation with Widmore, Ben and Jacob and the "death"/destruction of the island, Jack discovering his faith, sacrifices and the resolution of the Adam & eve skeletons is what I'm bettin' on. Paradise Lost.

 

[Moonloop]

I still think the show will end (or sometime during season 6) with some people leaving the Island. There is a working Ajira aircraft on the Hydra island, and we still got Lapidus alive whom he is the only one who is licensed to fly it. So I think that one way or another that plane will leave the island. There is still a lot of ^^^^ and loose ends to tie up, season 6 should be on full throttle.

 

[Kratos]

I still think that the last season will see them move to the "future" of the Island or something for a final battle for control of the island. There is SOMETHING about the flaming arrows that makes me think they are important. One way or the other I think there will be some kind of loops that ends up creating EVERY situation on the Island and that is why Richard is so passive and measured.

Yea I would also like to know why Richard doesn't age

 

[Entropy]

I still think the show will end (or sometime during season 6) with some people leaving the Island. There is a working Ajira aircraft on the Hydra island, and we still got Lapidus alive whom he is the only one who is licensed to fly it. So I think that one way or another that plane will leave the island. There is still a lot of ^^^^ and loose ends to tie up, season 6 should be on full throttle.

Oh yeah, they wouldn't have written the runway and landing had they not planned to use them again.

 

[tomandshell]

Apparently, Tawaret is the Egyptian goddess of pregancy and childbirth:

 

[Entropy]

Could be. I'm still not sure if the issues with pregnancy are a recent phenom on the island or not.

debate rages in the Lost community:

Unless there are other statues, this seems to point towards Anubis:

 

[Agent0028]

Well the statue certainly looks more like Tawaret than Anubis given the two things on the side at the hands the hat looking thing on top. The ears look a bit long for tawaret, a bit short for Anubis. But most importantly Horus and Anubis both are holding staffs and that statues hands are by its side. I don't think its necessarily Anubis or that there needs to be other statues just because there is an anubis on the door. It could be two separate things. Although I agree about the pregnancy thing not being something with the island from the start. I would have guessed that was due to the incident or some other event we've yet to see.

 

[Moonloop]

Yeah that is a tricky one. I definately see the statue resembling Tawaret the most. But it is the skirt and muscular body that throws it off as possibly being Anubis.

 

[Darthrazz]

Yea I would also like to know why Richard doesn't age

I think Richard is dead, like Locke and Christian Shepard.