LOST discussion - thar be spoilers ahead!

[barryo]

i believe that there are survivors still on the island and that jack's sense of reality has been warped into believing that a normal life and all the trappings of everyday existence are not normal and even excruciating to him & not living the ways of "island life" he cant function without the chaos. i think a trait that isn't just within his character alone but shared by some of the oceanic 6, or at least hurley & more yet to be revealed. okay that may be a theory thats out there but im sticking to it, at least til next week .

 

[tomandshell]

I still like the idea that the flashbacks seen on the show are actually being experienced by the characters on the island--just without the level of awareness that Desmond has reached. That sound that we hear when the show transitions between past and present represents the time jumping of their consciousness back and forth. During the flashbacks, they are all being bumped back into the past without being self aware during the experience, like Desmond became (rather uniquely) after his experience in the hatch.

 

[Agent0028]

I wasn't so sure about that theory when you first proposed it, but after last night's episode it seems like a pretty good call. Which raises the question how come Desmond and that other fella were aware of their jumps?

I wonder if the flashforwards we are now getting are the same thing. Desmond went in to the future all those times when he was saving Charlie. And now I just started wondering if it was coincidence that he saved Charlie enough time's for him to die telling Desmond its not Penny's boat...

 

[Entropy]

I still like the idea that the flashbacks seen on the show are actually being experienced by the characters on the island--just without the level of awareness that Desmond has reached. That sound that we hear when the show transitions between past and present represents the time jumping of their consciousness back and forth. During the flashbacks, they are all being bumped back into the past without being self aware during the experience, like Desmond became (rather uniquely) after his experience in the hatch.

It's a cool idea but if this is happening are the Losties just lying about comatose on the beach while their conciousness is elsewhere like Desmond or the rat were in Fairaday's office or Des was in the bathroom with the sink running?

 

[Darth Caedus]

I still like the idea that the flashbacks seen on the show are actually being experienced by the characters on the island--just without the level of awareness that Desmond has reached. That sound that we hear when the show transitions between past and present represents the time jumping of their consciousness back and forth. During the flashbacks, they are all being bumped back into the past without being self aware during the experience, like Desmond became (rather uniquely) after his experience in the hatch.

I can see that. I mean, they were around the purple "BUBBLE" in the sky when their plane crashed, perhaps there was tons of electromagnetic waves up there that exposed everybody on the plane to it; but not as severe as desmond got it. BUT, why wouldn't they react to it the same way desmond did? like become disoriented as such. Other than that, interesting theory.

 

[Agent23]

Here's one of my theories.

I believe the person in the closed casket in last year's finale is Michael (I know alot of people feel that way.) Here's why....

We already know Episode 8 is about Michael and we have been told we are going to learn who was in the coffin this season.

So, I'm thinking that in Episode 7 Michael will make an appearance at the end of the show, leading us up to Episode 8 about him. The flash forward will show either his death or his funeral and link it to Jack's flash forward from last year.

I also think that Michael's return to LOST is gonna be short lived.

We'll see what happens...

 

[Entropy]

That seems to be the prevailing theory about Michael. Assuming he's the one in the coffin, care to speculate on the circumstances that led him to hanging himself or being hung by someone?

 

[Agent23]

Not sure. Could go either way. He could of got Walt off the island and then overcome by guilt (for killing Anna Lucia and Libby) he killed himself.

I doubt that thou.

Actually, he could be one of the Oceanic 6 to get off the Island (we are supposed to learn all 6 this season also I believe). And, somehow Anna Lucia's partner finds out he killed her and then maybe he gets revenge and kills Michael.

He did make an appearance back in Episode 1 of this season (during Hurley's flash forward, and asking Hurley if he knew Anna Lucia)...

hmmmm.....

 

[DarthNeil]

Not sure. Could go either way. He could of got Walt off the island and then overcome by guilt (for killing Anna Lucia and Libby) he killed himself.

I doubt that thou.

Actually, he could be one of the Oceanic 6 to get off the Island (we are supposed to learn all 6 this season also I believe). And, somehow Anna Lucia's partner finds out he killed her and then maybe he gets revenge and kills Michael.

He did make an appearance back in Episode 1 of this season (during Hurley's flash forward, and asking Hurley if he knew Anna Lucia)...

hmmmm.....

If it's Michael in the coffin (as most, including myself, believe) then where was Walt when Jack (in his flash forward) visited the coffin?...

Walt is dead as a result of them leaving the island. For that reason Michael killed himself overcome with the guilt of being responsible for the death of his boy (insert Daniel Day-Lewisesque rant here a la Plainview). Just a thought.

 

[Giant Chicken]

I scanned through the posts to see if anyone had mentioned this yet. I don't think anyone has...

We saw Desmond got pretty crazy/mad for an episode and saw the man on the boat die from the same thing that casued Desmond to go mad. SO...

I this the "sickness" that Danielle's team died from???

 

[DarthNeil]

I scanned through the posts to see if anyone had mentioned this yet. I don't think anyone has...

We saw Desmond got pretty crazy/mad for an episode and saw the man on the boat die from the same thing that casued Desmond to go mad. SO...

I this the "sickness" that Danielle's team died from???

It's possible... Remember though-- Locke is acting different-- protective to the point of violence... could this be the change that Sayid had been warned off earlier by Rousseau?

 

[Agent23]

All great points you guys made.

I'm not sure how its all gonna pan out. But, I am pretty certain that its Michael in the coffin and we will find out why and how in his flash forward.

I could be totally wrong (probably am). But, it makes perfect sense.

 

[Buttmunch]

It could also be Ben in the coffin now that we know he makes it off the island. Michael is my only other guess, and all of the clues point towards it, but rarely is anything on Lost that simple.

 

[Agent23]

I agree with you BM.

It makes almost TOO much sense for it to be Michael.

 

[Agent0028]

That's what I'm thinking with this many of us thinking its Michael it seems like it must be someone else. But maybe we're just starting to catch on to their style and are figuring things out. I read all of Agatha Christies novels in high school, at first I could never figure them out, but as I neared the end I started piecing more and more together by the end. Sometimes you just learn to think like the people who are trying to throw you a curve.

 

[Entropy]

If it's Michael in the coffin (as most, including myself, believe) then where was Walt when Jack (in his flash forward) visited the coffin?...

Walt is dead as a result of them leaving the island. For that reason Michael killed himself overcome with the guilt of being responsible for the death of his boy (insert Daniel Day-Lewisesque rant here a la Plainview). Just a thought.

Or Walt discovers that Michael murdered two people, they have a fight and he uses his Shinning power on his dad hanging him screaming "I Drink Your Milkshake" as he does so. Yeah long shot I know...

 

[tomandshell]

I hope I'm not a big sucker, but I got the LOST video game for the 360 today. Haven't played it yet...

 

[Entropy]

Please post about the game Tom and let us know what you think. I've thought about getting it and really want the game to be awesome but am afraid it's just running away from the smoke monster and talking to Hurley and such.

 

[Darth Caedus]

I scanned through the posts to see if anyone had mentioned this yet. I don't think anyone has...

We saw Desmond got pretty crazy/mad for an episode and saw the man on the boat die from the same thing that casued Desmond to go mad. SO...

I this the "sickness" that Danielle's team died from???

But remember that the sickness only happens when you LEAVE the island, not while ON the island. If Danielle's crew had that sickness, being on the island wouldn't effect the sickness.

 

[Agent0028]

I thought the fella that died say that people could get it coming and going from the island? Maybe I misunderstood?