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You just name the time and place and i will be there with ya.
I'll bring the Journey cd.
LOST discussion - thar be spoilers ahead!
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I'll bring the Journey cd.
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What the hell happen to the smiley that points to the post above? THIS IS SO NEEDED NOW!!
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Memnoch
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Except they already explained the numbers during the LOST experience. Only things they didn't explain was how/why they keep popping up on the island. So the purpose is known just not the why and in life you don't always get to know why.
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Sick Boy 82
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Good, looks like we got a few people that Damon needs to be worried about. Anyone live in LA so we can have a base of operations before we make the trip to Oahu?!
Anyone live in LA so we can have a base of operations before we make the trip to Oahu?!
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Memnoch
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WHY..... WHY don't they answer the? we have first, then move along with the story?
Because it's been the intention all along of the show NOT to answer every question. We got an explanation to what the numbers were but not why they were so prolific. I don't think we ever will either and I'm ok with that.
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Here is the explanation of the numbers:
The Numbers
The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 appear throughout the series, both in sequence and individually. They were broadcast from the Island's radio transmitter, and it was this message that apparently drew Rousseau's expedition there. Although she later changes the message after the deaths of the rest of her team, the digits had also been heard by other people, eventually making their way to Hurley, who used them to win a lottery. After those around him suffer a series of misfortunes, he begins to believe the numbers are cursed. In the episode "Numbers", it is revealed that Hurley heard the numbers from Leonard Sims, a patient at a mental hospital. Sims had received them from Sam Toomey, with whom he had served in the U.S. Navy, at "a listening post monitoring longwave transmissions over the Pacific" 16 (one of the numbers) years earlier. The numbers are prevalent throughout the modern-day island, as they are engraved on the hatch of the Swan station, appear on medicine bottles, and constitute a code that must be entered into the Swan station's terminal. The sum of these numbers, 108, has become significant in connection to the DHARMA Initiative, and is the amount of time in minutes between entry into the station's computer as well as the time on Claire's clock during her flashback. Dharma is a key concept in the religion of Buddhism, meaning the teachings of Buddha, the number of beads in a Mala (buddhist prayer beads) is 108 and 108 is sacred in many aspects of buddhism and hinduism. The Oceanic Six were also rescued on Day 108. Also, as in a flash forward seen in the season 4 episode "There's no place like home: part 1" Hurley (Post-rescue) is given a car for his birthday. The numbers on the mileage meter are none other than 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42. The numbers 8 and 42 appear on the side of the helicopter seen in Season 4.
According to the DHARMA Orientation video in the Lost Experience, the Numbers represent the core factors of the Valenzetti Equation, which claims to accurately predict when humanity will be extinguished.
The Valenzetti Equation
As part of his fictional background, Troup is the author of an out-of-print book titled The Valenzetti Equation about an equation derived by a fictional mathematician of the same name. Amazon's "exclusive note" on their Bad Twin page mentions that The Valenzetti Equation is Troup's first book. The "Lost Experience" has revealed that the objective of the DHARMA Initiative is to alter any of the six factors of the Valenzetti Equation, revealed to have a huge impact on the date the human race will destroy itself, whether by global warming, chemical warfare, overpopulation or many other possible methods. These factors are represented as numbers in the Valenzetti Equation and are also the numbers frequently mentioned in the show: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42.
The Numbers
The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 appear throughout the series, both in sequence and individually. They were broadcast from the Island's radio transmitter, and it was this message that apparently drew Rousseau's expedition there. Although she later changes the message after the deaths of the rest of her team, the digits had also been heard by other people, eventually making their way to Hurley, who used them to win a lottery. After those around him suffer a series of misfortunes, he begins to believe the numbers are cursed. In the episode "Numbers", it is revealed that Hurley heard the numbers from Leonard Sims, a patient at a mental hospital. Sims had received them from Sam Toomey, with whom he had served in the U.S. Navy, at "a listening post monitoring longwave transmissions over the Pacific" 16 (one of the numbers) years earlier. The numbers are prevalent throughout the modern-day island, as they are engraved on the hatch of the Swan station, appear on medicine bottles, and constitute a code that must be entered into the Swan station's terminal. The sum of these numbers, 108, has become significant in connection to the DHARMA Initiative, and is the amount of time in minutes between entry into the station's computer as well as the time on Claire's clock during her flashback. Dharma is a key concept in the religion of Buddhism, meaning the teachings of Buddha, the number of beads in a Mala (buddhist prayer beads) is 108 and 108 is sacred in many aspects of buddhism and hinduism. The Oceanic Six were also rescued on Day 108. Also, as in a flash forward seen in the season 4 episode "There's no place like home: part 1" Hurley (Post-rescue) is given a car for his birthday. The numbers on the mileage meter are none other than 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42. The numbers 8 and 42 appear on the side of the helicopter seen in Season 4.
According to the DHARMA Orientation video in the Lost Experience, the Numbers represent the core factors of the Valenzetti Equation, which claims to accurately predict when humanity will be extinguished.
The Valenzetti Equation
As part of his fictional background, Troup is the author of an out-of-print book titled The Valenzetti Equation about an equation derived by a fictional mathematician of the same name. Amazon's "exclusive note" on their Bad Twin page mentions that The Valenzetti Equation is Troup's first book. The "Lost Experience" has revealed that the objective of the DHARMA Initiative is to alter any of the six factors of the Valenzetti Equation, revealed to have a huge impact on the date the human race will destroy itself, whether by global warming, chemical warfare, overpopulation or many other possible methods. These factors are represented as numbers in the Valenzetti Equation and are also the numbers frequently mentioned in the show: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42.
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What was the explanation?
Memnoch
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OK SITHLORD
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You sir i bow to............. What the hell is going on here? Where is the smiley that bows? Dave must be mad at me.
You sir i bow to............. What the hell is going on here? Where is the smiley that bows? Dave must be mad at me.
Wait till you read about the Spider Protocol, the Helgus Antonius and Mittelwerk's virus project in Sri Lanka.
Personally I liked the Sopranos ending. Thought it was a smart way to end the show as I don't like neatly wrapped up "happily ever after" type endings that don't make you think.
If the ending pisses some of the fans off then that's a good sign to me that they went with a smarter, more mature storyline. The last thing I want is a dumbed down neatly packaged every single question you had is answered type of ending. It's a fine line to skate between letting the audience know what has been happening the whole time without ruining the mystic of the show. Lindoff's analogy to the midichlorians was a good one I think.
I'll be happy if the shows concludes like Twin Peaks... now that was an ending!
Memnoch
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I'll be happy if the shows concludes like Twin Peaks... now that was an ending!
No! No cliffhanger endings. Just leave unanswered questions that can be talked about in the post sereies LOST: The Answers book.
OK SITHLORD
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Personally I liked the Sopranos ending. Thought it was a smart way to end the show as I don't like neatly wrapped up "happily ever after" type endings that don't make you think.
If the ending pisses some of the fans off then that's a good sign to me that they went with a smarter, more mature storyline. The last thing I want is a dumbed down neatly packaged every single question you had is answered type of ending. It's a fine line to skate between letting the audience know what has been happening the whole time without ruining the mystic of the show. Lindoff's analogy to the midichlorians was a good one I think.
I'll be happy if the shows concludes like Twin Peaks... now that was an ending!
The? is did TONY die or not?
OK SITHLORD
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Wait till you read about the Spider Protocol, the Helgus Antonius and Mittelwerk's virus project in Sri Lanka.
Personally I liked the Sopranos ending. Thought it was a smart way to end the show as I don't like neatly wrapped up "happily ever after" type endings that don't make you think.
If the ending pisses some of the fans off then that's a good sign to me that they went with a smarter, more mature storyline. The last thing I want is a dumbed down neatly packaged every single question you had is answered type of ending. It's a fine line to skate between letting the audience know what has been happening the whole time without ruining the mystic of the show. Lindoff's analogy to the midichlorians was a good one I think.
I'll be happy if the shows concludes like Twin Peaks... now that was an ending!
Your sir are funny
Did you watch Twin Peaks? That was no cliffhanger! Everyone died and Cooper got possessed by the demon. Case closed.
pretty good resolution for Lynch.
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You sir i bow to............. What the hell is going on here? Where is the smiley that bows? Dave must be mad at me.
OK SITHLORD
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DANMIT BANNISTER tell me how to get the smiley's or i will do........... i will do............. nothing
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