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Still, unless this movie just relentlessly hangs on all summer -- and that has happened, long time ago -- its likely the sequel will see its budget cut in half from this one. Maybe they'll kick in 70-85 million is my guess if they move ahead. So expect Max's car to have a lot of breakdowns in the next movie or him to spend a lot more time in whatever "Bartertown" he ends up in.
 
It really is, as much as I like movies like Interstellar, Nolan consistently robs the viewers of that with his abuse of exposition.

Yeah, sometimes when movies try to outsmart the audience so completely then they leave very little room to explore in that world.

Films like the Max series, or the original Star Wars for that matter, really had these open-ended worlds where your imagination could run wild. Once the storyteller had masterfully set up the rules -- very simple rules -- the world was wide open to explore.
 
Films like the Max series, or the original Star Wars for that matter, really had these open-ended worlds where your imagination could run wild. Once the storyteller had masterfully set up the rules -- very simple rules -- the world was wide open to explore.

Interestingly enough I've never felt that way about Avatar, which seemed to be a direct attempt by Cameron to create his own unique "Star Wars" or "Fury Road." Once the initial "wow" factor wore off I've never felt compelled to explore or even ponder the ins and outs of either Pandora or the Earth of that future.
 
At least MM is kicking PP's ass overseas. Way to go America. :duh

Bring on Picture Perfect 3 and Fifty Shades 2!

I don't know what's worse, that Pitch Perfect exists in the first place, or that it got a sequel. Insert terrible aca-prefixed pun here.

That may be because Avatar is so derivative you don't feel the need to explore that universe.

I explored that universe years before the film by listening to Yes albums while staring at the sleeve art...
 
Interestingly enough I've never felt that way about Avatar, which seemed to be a direct attempt by Cameron to create his own unique "Star Wars" or "Fury Road." Once the initial "wow" factor wore off I've never felt compelled to explore or even ponder the ins and outs of either Pandora or the Earth of that future.

:lol I totally agree.

And I think that is the great failure of that film. Naysayers think we're all being snarky and that Cameron always rises... but its the world he built that is the problem, not Cameron.

Part of the problem is making humans the bad guys. You just limit yourself right there. That world would be hordes more interesting if there was some wicked, evil side where bad things lurk plotting the take-over of paradise.

Perhaps that's what Cameron will add in part deux. I can't see him going anywhere else with this. If its just more evil mankind and machines come to destroy the natural people, then I think his franchise is kaput.
 
That always bothered me about Avatar - preachy, saccharine 'we should live in harmony with nature' bollocks from a film that cost more than the GDP of a developing nation and was almost entirely made in a network of expensive computers burning through electricity like nobody's business, 24/7.

People in glass houses, Jim...
 
That may be because Avatar is so derivative you don't feel the need to explore that universe.

It is from a concept/world he dreamed up in the 70's when he was a teenager... and you can clearly see the signs (i.e. the floating mountains, animals that look like black-light posters, etc.) But you're right, and derivative in a very passive sense. Star Wars was very derivative too, but it didn't confuse its message with taking technology away from the good guys. SW is all about the very thing it purports is "insignificant": technology (vs the force).
 
It is from a concept/world he dreamed up in the 70's when he was a teenager... and you can clearly see the signs (i.e. the floating mountains, animals that look like black-light posters, etc.) But you're right, and derivative in a very passive sense. Star Wars was very derivative too, but it didn't confuse its message with taking technology away from the good guys. SW is all about the very thing it purports is "insignificant": technology (vs the force).

So it's an original work? I remember around the time it was released I used to see all sorts of claims of plagiarism and people coming up with theories of what inspired Avatar.

Also, when SW came out, nobody had seen anything like that and had no idea what inspired it.
 
So it's an original work? I remember around the time it was released I used to see all sorts of claims of plagiarism and people coming up with theories of what inspired Avatar.

Also, when SW came out, nobody had seen anything like that and had no idea what inspired it.

Well, in 1977, there were plenty of people saying Lucas borrowed from the Dune novels (which were huge at the time), the Lord/Rings novels, etc; old westerns, knights, war movies, etc. It was clear that SW was a hodgepodge of histories and legends mixed together to create a new myth -- by Lucas' own admission. It was just done so wonderfully and with such advanced sfx that it quite literally took everyone's breath away, even the few naysayers.

Avatar is Cameron's original world. But just how original it is depends on your point of view. It's probably very original to him, but perhaps it should have been made 30 years ago to truly seem fresh. Most of his ideas had been exhausted by the time of Avatar -- many ideas exhausted by he himself (i.e. those power loaders -- which were really lifted from Lucas' walkers anyway, so we're back to Lucas' genius :lol)
 
Avatar's "Dances with Wolves" routine might have been derivative but at least Neytiri was 100% original. :monkey3

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But this movie is so pro-femininst/woman, I just don't get it? Is it because it takes a man to save them all in the end?


:D

Oooops, I did not....


On a side note: I'm so tired of whining. That's all the internet has given us -- world-wide whining.
 
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