Mad Max: Fury Road

[Plastic Bateman]

Because apparently this movie is a feminist bastion and the misogynists don't like women not being portrayed as tropes, I don't know which side is dumber

The answer is both.

Seriously though, every article on this film that I've been funnelled to on social media has had a pro or anti-feminist slant with very little discussion of the actual film.

Personally, I don't care about thinly-veiled polemics on 'misandry' and 'toxic patriarchal masculinity' written at the wide-eyed level of a first-year sociology dropout - I just want a film discussed on its own merits. Have to wonder if all this bullscrit turns off the silent majority who'd rather not involve themselves in either camp of interpreting reality through a myopic and heavily biased lens.

 

[Wor-Gar]

...written at the wide-eyed level of a first-year sociology dropout....

I wonder if there even is a silent majority any more. It seems like everything's been dissected into a bazillion loud minorities. The implied unity of the internet has created only division into a multitude of cliques.

 

[GasparZizou]

The answer is both.

Seriously though, every article on this film that I've been funnelled to on social media has had a pro or anti-feminist slant with very little discussion of the actual film.

Personally, I don't care about thinly-veiled polemics on 'misandry' and 'toxic patriarchal masculinity' written at the wide-eyed level of a first-year sociology dropout - I just want a film discussed on its own merits. Have to wonder if all this bullscrit turns off the silent majority who'd rather not involve themselves in either camp of interpreting reality through a myopic and heavily biased lens.

there's no middle ground in that dumb debate. I also wonder if all the feminist talk has anything to do with the reviews the movie's got, it happened last year with the Legend of Korra, that series had many problems in many areas, but because it supposedly showed a lesbian couple at the end, progressive thinking reviewers went crazy, ignoring the flaws of the show and just praising it left and right, it still rings today,

Of course that's not the case with FR which is an excellent movie, it deserves that score on its own merits.

I wonder if there even is a silent majority any more. It seems like everything's been dissected into a bazillion loud minorities. The implied unity of the internet has created only division into a multitude of cliques.

Check your privilege, can't you see this movie is anti-Aztec? As a Mexican I'm very offended, why norse Mythology? Why not Aztec mythology? Aztec mythology is really underrepresented in Hollywood.

 

[Khev]

Check your privilege, can't you see this movie is anti-Aztec? As a Mexican I'm very offended, why norse Mythology? Why not Aztec mythology? Aztec mythology is really underrepresented in Hollywood.

Well you've got AvP right?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Wasn't "Mimic" an Aztec monster? Or was it "Relic"? Anyway -- go Aztecs!

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

One of my favourite scenes was actually not shown. When Max goes off to take ut the blind bullet farmer and returns with supplies all bloodied up, loved how they left it off-screen.

The answer is both.

Seriously though, every article on this film that I've been funnelled to on social media has had a pro or anti-feminist slant with very little discussion of the actual film.

Personally, I don't care about thinly-veiled polemics on 'misandry' and 'toxic patriarchal masculinity' written at the wide-eyed level of a first-year sociology dropout - I just want a film discussed on its own merits. Have to wonder if all this bullscrit turns off the silent majority who'd rather not involve themselves in either camp of interpreting reality through a myopic and heavily biased lens.

Thing is I found Max and Furiosa to be shared protagonists.

The story is more or less Furiosas mission but Max plays that Lone wanderer who gets drawn into circumstances and because of his character can't walk away and leave those in need.

When he left in the end it was a great moment of him off to encounter the next wastelanders that he couldn't not help.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Wasn't "Mimic" an Aztec monster? Or was it "Relic"? Anyway -- go Aztecs!

I don't think so, but "Mimic" was directed by Guillermo del Toro, and he's Mexican...so that's close enough?

 

[GasparZizou]

Well you've got AvP right?

That's probably the only thing I liked from the movie
The Aztec/Mayan rituals and honor code go really well with Predator lore, I wonder if the got the idea from the Batman vs Aliens comic.

Wasn't "Mimic" an Aztec monster? Or was it "Relic"? Anyway -- go Aztecs!

Haven't seen any of those

One of my favourite scenes was actually not shown. When Max goes off to take ut the blind bullet farmer and returns with supplies all bloodied up, loved how they left it off-screen.

It was really cool, I'll say it again, this movie mystifies the legend of Max even more.

I don't think so, but "Mimic" was directed by Guillermo del Toro, and he's Mexican.

Okay I'll watch that I like del Toro.

 

[jye4ever]

Sony's movie sucked ass but still pulled in bank. Being Spidey is a far more popular character than Thor or Capt, I guess they were expecting more.

As for more Max flicks, I all for it as long as something new is brought to the table. The last 3 flicks have ended on tanker chases.

I agree, they should be chasing down rare copies of the OT.

They finally flip the tanker over at the end and out pores copies of the PT instead.

It sucks when good movies don't earn while mediocre merchandise movies like AOU rake it in

Mediocre for me was Wolverine sleeping in an action movie!

What comes out next weekend is key -- thankfully only San Andreas -- so Max has a chance to actually earn more next weekend and end up at #2.

Tomorrowland will drop out of the top 5 and PP2 should have exhausted itself by then.

I know I'm dreaming for Max to come in at #2, but hope is eternal. Just hope it stays #3 or better and stays in the Top 5.

Fingers crossed, i'll go next weekend to see FR again.

At least MM is kicking PP's ass overseas. Way to go America.

Bring on Picture Perfect 3 and Fifty Shades 2!

Still, unless this movie just relentlessly hangs on all summer -- and that has happened, long time ago -- its likely the sequel will see its budget cut in half from this one. Maybe they'll kick in 70-85 million is my guess if they move ahead. So expect Max's car to have a lot of breakdowns in the next movie or him to spend a lot more time in whatever "Bartertown" he ends up in.

Smaller budget MM better than no MM.

That always bothered me about Avatar - preachy, saccharine 'we should live in harmony with nature' bollocks from a film that cost more than the GDP of a developing nation and was almost entirely made in a network of expensive computers burning through electricity like nobody's business, 24/7.

People in glass houses, Jim...

LOL

But this movie is so pro-femininst/woman, I just don't get it? Is it because it takes a man to save them all in the end?




Oooops, I did not....


On a side note: I'm so tired of whining. That's all the internet has given us -- world-wide whining.

LOL

Its not all bad

 

[Khev]

Smaller budget MM better than no MM.

Maybe if Fury Road 2 does poorly Miller can go full circle and make the final film with a $350,000 budget again.

 

[jye4ever]

Hopefully Byrne is the villain again.

 

[Wor-Gar]

So this came up in another thread about villains, curious how you guys would rank Immortan Joe against other Max villains.

I love Joe's look but I didn't find him particularly a good challenge to the hero. I much preferred Wez and Humungus still. Now that I think about it, I guess I would rank IJ 3rd. What I did love is that this Max had a slew of villains. If you don't have one truly great threat, then have many -- People Eater, Bullet Farmer, The Slit, Black Mask, Rictus Erectus, and a lot of other masked badasses. Oh and Doof Warrior! I never thought much of Toecutter, sorry. Master-Blaster undid himself from the listing. And PigBoy or PooBoy or whatever his name was is just too comedic to be a real threat.

 

[jye4ever]

Max's biggest villain was himself I guess in FR.

But Wez, Wez, Wez!

Why no love for TC?

There were no villains in BT.

 

[Wor-Gar]

There were no villains in BT.

That is its fatal flaw... that, and the half-a-film lost in Neva-Neva land with Captain Walker. That, and Tina Turner. Sorry, she just seems silly and out of place. The Fat Man was a better villain.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Would never happen but I'd buy up any and all Lego MM:FR sets.

All the different vehicles and characters looks would be ideal, would be a lot better than Jurassic World that's for sure.

 

[jye4ever]

That is its fatal flaw... that, and the half-a-film lost in Neva-Neva land with Captain Walker. That, and Tina Turner. Sorry, she just seems silly and out of place. The Fat Man was a better villain.

Well, it did have the Sarlaac Pit's midget son in it.

Would never happen but I'd buy up any and all Lego MM:FR sets.

All the different vehicles and characters looks would be ideal, would be a lot better than Jurassic World that's for sure.

Lego MM =

 

[Wor-Gar]

Fury Road is not Mom friendly. Moms have a real problem with Max, I'm sure. It looks manic and dirty and loud and violent. Moms run from this. They miss the message -- the wonderful, sappy goodness of the morality play at work. They only see dirt and grime and machines. Yuck!

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Lego fans at work

 

[jye4ever]

Too clean for that world.

 

[Khev]

So this came up in another thread about villains, curious how you guys would rank Immortan Joe against other Max villains.

I love Joe's look but I didn't find him particularly a good challenge to the hero.

Immortan Joe > Other Max villains.

Joe was the first truly larger than life villain Max faced. He was like Xerxes; godlike and unapproachable. His *underlings* bested Max. Humungus' boys did take out Max's Interceptor and his dog but Max still got the last word with using his car as a bomb and escaping. The first five minutes of FR have IJ's minions capturing him and only an act of God allowed him to escape.

I think it would have demeaned IJ's persona to have had him have some fist fight with Max or a duel on top of a speeding tanker or something. He was almost like some gnarly wasteland pope (he even drove a bulletproof box!) and yet he was still bold enough to take the wheel and spearhead his own motorcade. Driving solo in his monster truck through the collapsed pass, taking the lead and putting his car in the War Rig's way to stop it from coming back through.

Toecutter was ultimately a coward, Wez was ultimately a subordinate, and what did Humungus really do? Made a bunch of speeches, threw a trident thing into some dude's back and drove head first into his own hood ornament henchman.*

Joe had a whole society in the palm of his hand, with political manipulations that reached out into other strongholds across the wastes, kept wives that were not only healthy but educated and cultured, while still putting on a "Grand Wizard of Oz" kind of show to keep the rabble in line. There was just so much to him. He was great.

* For the record I really liked Toecutter, Wez, and Humungus, I just prefer IJ to all of them