Deckard
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He also set up multiple outlying settlements and kept them operational with fear even when he wasn't present.
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He also set up multiple outlying settlements and kept them operational with fear even when he wasn't present.
Uncanny Web-Slinger
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Immortan Joe > Other Max villains.
Joe was the first truly larger than life villain Max faced. He was like Xerxes; godlike and unapproachable. His *underlings* bested Max. Humungus' boys did take out Max's Interceptor and his dog but Max still got the last word with using his car as a bomb and escaping. The first five minutes of FR have IJ's minions capturing him and only an act of God allowed him to escape.
I think it would have demeaned IJ's persona to have had him have some fist fight with Max or a duel on top of a speeding tanker or something. He was almost like some gnarly wasteland pope (he even drove a bulletproof box!) and yet he was still bold enough to take the wheel and spearhead his own motorcade. Driving solo in his monster truck through the collapsed pass, taking the lead and putting his car in the War Rig's way to stop it from coming back through.
Toecutter was ultimately a coward, Wez was ultimately a subordinate, and what did Humungus really do? Made a bunch of speeches, threw a trident thing into some dude's back and drove head first into his own hood ornament henchman.*
Joe had a whole society in the palm of his hand, with political manipulations that reached out into other strongholds across the wastes, kept wives that were not only healthy but educated and cultured, while still putting on a "Grand Wizard of Oz" kind of show to keep the rabble in line. There was just so much to him. He was great.
* For the record I really liked Toecutter, Wez, and Humungus, I just prefer IJ to all of them
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I'll also had that Immortan Joe was so larger than life that Max, Mr. Wasteland Indiana Jones who can pretty much improvise any overwhelming situation into a victory never even made much of an impression on Joe. He never had a "Yeah I'm Max *****, you killed my family, you wrecked my car, you took everything, now you'll pay the price and remember me for the rest of your short life!" Nope, he was an insect to Joe. A "mediocre" war boy's blood bank. Nothing more.
Plastic Bateman
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He also set up multiple outlying settlements and kept them operational with fear even when he wasn't present.
War Boys: created a functional, if utterly brutal and inhumane, society with industry, agriculture and running water.
Vuvalini: failed to maintain a natural oasis, number a handful.
The message I took from this is that a battle of the sexes benefits no-one. The male-dominated society gets **** done at a terrible cost, the female-dominated society simply survives at an absolute baseline. Men and women need each other, accepting and tolerant of each other's differences, to create a harmonious, functional civilization.
Deckard
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Yea, that fits quite well with the ending also. Going back, being lifted up by one of the younger pups... and Max not having any interest in taking over.
GasparZizou
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forget that feminist bs, this is what the movie is about, equality! Brilliant.
jye4ever
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Immortan Joe > Other Max villains.
Joe was the first truly larger than life villain Max faced. He was like Xerxes; godlike and unapproachable. His *underlings* bested Max. Humungus' boys did take out Max's Interceptor and his dog but Max still got the last word with using his car as a bomb and escaping. The first five minutes of FR have IJ's minions capturing him and only an act of God allowed him to escape.
I think it would have demeaned IJ's persona to have had him have some fist fight with Max or a duel on top of a speeding tanker or something. He was almost like some gnarly wasteland pope (he even drove a bulletproof box!) and yet he was still bold enough to take the wheel and spearhead his own motorcade. Driving solo in his monster truck through the collapsed pass, taking the lead and putting his car in the War Rig's way to stop it from coming back through.
Toecutter was ultimately a coward, Wez was ultimately a subordinate, and what did Humungus really do? Made a bunch of speeches, threw a trident thing into some dude's back and drove head first into his own hood ornament henchman.*
Joe had a whole society in the palm of his hand, with political manipulations that reached out into other strongholds across the wastes, kept wives that were not only healthy but educated and cultured, while still putting on a "Grand Wizard of Oz" kind of show to keep the rabble in line. There was just so much to him. He was great.
* For the record I really liked Toecutter, Wez, and Humungus, I just prefer IJ to all of them
That all sounds great on paper, but most of that happened off camera, there needed to be more of his physical presence to elevate his threat level, the war music tried to keep his presense palpable but it could only do so much to increase his threat.
If his big son was supposed to be a threatning surrogate it didn't work for me, he was too busy yelping about his baby brother, who had died anyways, don't know why he was celebrating it so much, shut up and go kick some ass!
That's the problem with villains in general these days, writers are making them too likeable that even when they're evil they are kind of good.
I'm all for villains with personalities, but sometimes I just want them to be memorable for their evil actions, not their words!
I'm happy he set up other functioning settlements, but all off camera means nothing he will be remembered for.
They could've said IJ was ruthless because he wiped out many people, but showing him simply stepping on a bunny with no words being spoken would make him more ruthless in my eyes.
I know that Ronan gets bashed a lot for being non threatening, but I thought he was pretty ballsy in the face of Thanos.
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I don't think so, but "Mimic" was directed by Guillermo del Toro, and he's Mexican...so that's close enough?
Huh. I always wondered what happened to the kid from Jerry Maguire.
Thanos... another villain waiting with thunderously grumbled dialogue and not much of a punch. They picked the wrong actor to voice him. Time will tell.
jye4ever
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I wonder if IJ was someone who might've actually been involved with sending off some nukes that started judgement day.
jye4ever
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Even as an MCU fanboy I will agree with this, hopefully the pay off will be great.
We will see the big hero vs hero battle next year then all the heros regrouping to take him on in IW.
I think Wez was pretty larger than life back in his day. Plus he also posed a specific threat to Max, built nicely with little moments along the way. He was Humungus' dog as much as Max became Papogalos' dog. And don't forget, Vader -- the greatest villain ever -- started out as a dog of war and Tarkin's *****.
Ah, that would be cool. Make sense in some many ways too. Hope someone saves that idea for the next Max movie. Good one!
What? We saw an example of everything I said on screen.
Sigh, kids these days, always wanting villains who "talk big" to pushovers like MCU Thanos so they can have these sweet comedic dance-offs later on.
The dude ran over a pregnant chick with a monster truck. And then was all, "oh, she's alive? Good, cut her open." That's some cold **** that would have the likes of Ronan and whoever else peeing in their pants.
jye4ever
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Wez > Erection yelling about his baby brother
Do, don't talk.
All Erection did was shoot his gun into the air!
He didn't even kill Nux, Nux killed Nux.
Do, don't talk.
All Erection did was shoot his gun into the air!
He didn't even kill Nux, Nux killed Nux.
GasparZizou
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I don't have a problem with Thanos' voice, it's his annoying orange face what bothers me
Oh Wez absolutely trumps Rictus. No question there.
jye4ever
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What? We saw an example of everything I said on screen.
Sigh, kids these days, always wanting villains who "talk big" to pushovers like MCU Thanos so they can have these sweet comedic dance-offs later on.
The dude ran over a pregnant chick with a monster truck. And then was all, "oh, she's alive? Good, cut her open." That's some cold **** that would have the likes of Ronan and whoever else peeing in their pants.
IJ didn't run her over on purpose, she fell under his wheels, he was traumitized when it happened.
Wez's ass cheeks alone trump most villains.
"You... and your little dog too."
"You... and your little dog too."
jye4ever
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Ah, that would be cool. Make sense in some many ways too. Hope someone saves that idea for the next Max movie. Good one!
I actually don't know if it is, i'm torn if I want WW3 explained.
Leaving it unknown makes it pretty disturbing for me.
But thanks.
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