Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

[wofford29]

Re: The Man of Steel

Seriously?


I wouldn't mind a dark take on Superman, but in a more introspective take. Not a blunt and in your face dark film.

 

[OSCORP]

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The comment pretty much sums up my thoughts on this reboot.(and the other DC films going dark)

Posted by: ambassadorz on August 22, 2008 at 11:14:50

Ok, Warner Bros still doesn't get it. TDK worked because Batman's character is DARK!! Superman doesn't need to be darker in tone in order for it to be successful, he justs needs to kick ass and fight villains!! This goes for the flash, wonder woman and whatever else they're looking to produce. These execs are idiots. Hire comic book writers who know the damn characters they helped create and just sit back and reap the benefits of the properties they hold. Is it just me or am i alone in thinking this?

QUIT COPYING OTHER SUCCESSFUL FILMS WB!!!!!

 

[The Mike]

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Well the good news is that unlike before with these films, many of the current and past Superman Comic Book writers are submitting pitches and screenplays to WB to try and snag this film. So there is a chance that we might get a comic book writer to pen the story

 

[My Lord]

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Good to hear they are thinking of rebooting the franchise. Bad new is the suits think that the "Dark" formula must be applied to all their superhero properties.

I think someone on the boards predicted this very thing, with all the success of the Dark Knight.

I hope they keep Routh at least.

 

[wofford29]

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Superman man could easily work with a dark tone, but not a dark tone like a Batman film. Like I said, I'd love to see a Superman man with a dark introspective tone behind it. It would certainly make him more relatable. Five for Fighting's Superman song lyrics are a good example of what I'm talking about.

Title: Five For Fighting - Superman lyrics

I can’t stand to fly
I’m not that naive
I’m just out to find
The better part of me

I’m more than a bird...i’m more than a plane
More than some pretty face beside a train
It’s not easy to be me

Wish that I could cry
Fall upon my knees
Find a way to lie
About a home I’ll never see

It may sound absurd...but don’t be naive
Even heroes have the right to bleed
I may be disturbed...but won’t you concede
Even heroes have the right to dream
It’s not easy to be me

Up, up and away...away from me
It’s all right...you can all sleep sound tonight
I’m not crazy...or anything...

I can’t stand to fly
I’m not that naive
Men weren’t meant to ride
With clouds between their knees

I’m only a man in a silly red sheet
Digging for kryptonite on this one way street
Only a man in a funny red sheet
Looking for special things inside of me
Inside of me
Inside me
Yeah, inside me
Inside of me

I’m only a man
In a funny red sheet
I’m only a man
Looking for a dream

I’m only a man
In a funny red sheet
And it’s not easy, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm...

Its not easy to be me

 

[RJMacReady16]

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They need to lose the sh#$%y Superman Returns costume....

 

[The Mike]

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I guarantee you that the costume will be redone, the SR costume was Singer's baby. Now in term of the darker tone like Wofford posted with those lyrics, the darker side of Superman is his feeling of not being accepted or part of this world despite wanting to be part of it so desperately. This is probably where they'll go but the danger is depending on the actor it just might come off whiny.

Also, I don't think they'll keep anything tied to SR which means Routh is out most likely. I think they'll go the Batman route knowing that Lex Luthor is the Joker for Superman so probably if Lex is involved he probably won't be until film 2. Millar and many of the other writers have been pitching Brainiac because of the obvious Krypton ties and how they can use that character to help the origins.

 

[OSCORP]

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I don't think it matters what they do. It will never top this ^^^^!!


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[NASEDO]

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The new "Dark" concept does seem stupid. Glad to hear the studios agree Singer ruined the franchise. Have to wait and see what happens.

 

[The Mike]

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I don't think it matters what they do. It will never top this ^^^^!!

People said the same thing to Nolan and company about Burton's Batman. I am very optimistic about this but it will severely depend on who is helming to see what we'll be getting.

 

[OSCORP]

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People said the same thing to Nolan and company about Burton's Batman. I am very optimistic about this but it will severely depend on who is helming to see what we'll be getting.

Donner's Superman > Burton's Batman

(IMO)

I am optimistic myself as i want it to be good. I also agree on the costume, but i would still like to see Routh come back.

 

[wofford29]

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Donner's Superman > Burton's Batman

(IMO)

I am optimistic myself as i want it to be good. I also agree on the costume, but i would still like to see Routh come back.

I wouldn't mind Routh returning, but certainly wouldn't be sad if he didn't. If that makes sense.

 

[OSCORP]

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I would live, but i thought he was as close to CR as it can get.(that's big to me)

 

[Kabukiman]

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As long as Supes, himself, isn't "dark" I think a dark Superman movie could work.

The thing that disturbs me though, is that the decision to go dark is being by suits before a treatment has even been proposed. That's kinda like putting the horse behind the carriage, isn't it?

 

[OSCORP]

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As long as Supes, himself, isn't "dark" I think a dark Superman movie could work.

The thing that disturbs me though, is that the decision to go dark is being by suits before a treatment has even been proposed. That's kinda like putting the horse behind the carriage, isn't it?

$$$$$$ is all they see. (TDK)

 

[The Mike]

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Routh will not be back. He is too representative of what WB wants to get away from. He was casted because of how much he resembles Reeve and helped the retro feel that Singer wanted. WB wants something updated like Nolan's Batman so ties to the old will be avoided intentionally.

 

[wofford29]

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Routh will not be back. He is too representative of what WB wants to get away from. He was casted because of how much he resembles Reeve and helped the retro feel that Singer wanted. WB wants something updated like Nolan's Batman so ties to the old will be avoided intentionally.

I thought he was cast because Singer was in love with him?

 

[OSCORP]

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Well if it don't at least have the JW theme in it i doubt i'd even see it. (that ^^^^ IS Superman)

 

[Darklord Dave]

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Batman lends himself to darkness. The character is about revenge after all. But Superman is about hope and inspiration. I'd love to see more character development, and if that's what they mean by "dark" then I'm fine with it. But if they want to do a version like in Superman III where he turns evil - I don't think that's necessary.

 

[tomandshell]

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While The Dark Knight had a dark tone to it, it didn't explore "the evil side" of Batman, and I don't want to see the evil side of Superman explored just because TDK was a dark film (appropriately, by nature of the character and source material). Not every DC character is Batman and therefore they should each be approached differently, not just as a bunch of films arbitrarily "going dark" in a vain attempt to ape the success of TDK.