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At the very end of GOTG, you flash back to a young Quill who says, "Or at least, all that would have happened. But I died as a child." *cuts to Ronan destroying the universe with his gem--the end of the Marvel U movies*
 
I don't think there is a real consistent tone with the MCU. Sure, they haven't been overly dark, but from Thor to Cap to Iron Man to Guardians there are some pretty major differences in how the subject matter is approached.

From IM to GotG. From TFA to TWS.... Yeah, I see now. Definitely not consistent, like comics. :lol
 
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Wow. I cannot wait for this. The trailer was fantastic, and the tone is perfect. I can't wait to see what they do with his Red suit.
 
They sure do.

Thanks! Well, I'm definitely going to pick it up. I actually don't own a single copy of Marvel related tv or movies. Now comics.....oh boy! Marvel's comics were so much cheaper to buy at the comic stores in Detroit, so that's pretty much all I read. I'd get the occasional Batman or Superman, but they were usually in the dollar or 2 dollar bin. Marvel comics you could a lot of the good stuff for $.25-$.50. I still had to keep up with anything with Bane in it, since I always loved him so much growing up. I didn't get into Daredevil until recently, when a bunch of people were saying that the current Mark Waid run was so good. I didn't really like it, because I don't like the sillier superhero stuff and I was really bored. Then I found out that Frank Miller wrote him, so I decided to give it a shot. He beat out Captain America as my second favorite superhero! Then I went crazy and bought a ton of stuff. Brian Michael Bendis might have written my favorite comic book run of all time with his Daredevil, but I had problems with how he wrote Matt. He wasn't respectful to him being a Catholic, but a lot of writers aren't. That really bugged me. I tried going to back to Waid's stuff, but I still disliked it.


Yeah, does look great. I really am more excited about this than either of the Marvel movies this year.


Daredevil isn't really supposed to be, in a traditional way. He's a conflicted man, dealing with issues that are much darker than the stuff some other "heroes" have to deal with on a regular basis. Gang stuff like drugs, prostitution, and racketeering, and seeing the effects on people. And questions of faith, and his conflicts over good and evil has played a strong role in the comics going back to the work Frank Miller started. This is subject matter much more suitable to a Man of Steel aesthetic.

Regarding powers, DD does have "super" powers, but they're just his enhanced senses. Physically, he's just a well trained fighter.

That's what I liked about Daredevil, because I really don't care for superpowers. Unless it's somewhat plausible and the writers adhere to physics. Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Starfire, Raven, etc. work for me because of they aren't exactly human. Stuff like having a mutation that allows you to teleport, go back in time, or control the weather don't do it for me. I'm not really familiar with the Fantastic Four origin, but isn't it just some kind of cosmic force? You just throw out "cosmic" and that's fine for me! But when you try to ground something so ludicrous and take it so seriously, then I'm out.

A big reason why I don't like the new Daredevil run is that he made Daredevil into being more like the fantastical superheroes and focused on the powers. In Frank Miller's run, Stick just explained it as an ability that everyone has; Matt was just had it unlocked by artificial means. That sci-fi/fantasy stuff I'm good with. It's like Dragon Ball and "chi." Although that series takes a lot of stuff I hate from fiction, and made me love it! I don't know if you know that series, but the lead character, Goku, is my favorite fictional character. You can't really get more light-hearted than him!

And unfortunately they didn't have the rights to Superman or the Fantastic Four so were stuck telling gritty non-fantastic stories with guys like Daredevil. A pity.

Do you not like Daredevil? I'm sorry if you don't like the gritty non-fantastic stuff, but that's what I'm into!

I just like how he was able to go through so much garbage and heartbreak, yet remain so altruistic. That's why the darker stuff is appealing to a lot of people. Folks have bad things going on in their lives, and get inspired by characters who go through much worse stuff than they could even fathom. Although it's not the best written story, Batman Knightfall was such an inspirational story to me because of what Bane and Bruce went through. For years, I could barely walk and couldn't even push myself when I was in a wheelchair. Those characters went through so many hardships and were broken down, yet never gave up. Well, there were points, but that made them relate-able. When Bruce got his back broken, he just wanted to die; I felt like that so many times being ill (still do sometimes), but eventually he got through it. Bane was brought up with absolutely nothing in his life, and then the warden kept throwing more challenges at him—trying to kill him. The guy couldn't even read until he was in his 20's (another reason I connected to him, because I was so sick that I couldn't even read for years. Eventually the only thing I could really comprehend was comics, and built my cognitive ability up again.) Unfortunately the writing isn't the greatest for Bane's stuff, but who care's? I got Daredevil now!

I don't know, but it makes me happy! Discovering the burden that Steve carried with the Captain America mantle in the "The Captain" by Mark Gruenwald is what got me connected to him. That and finding out that he was a sickly kid who, if only given the body that reflected his character, would achieve greatness.

Depending on the character—sometimes I want the hero to be the shining light in the darkness (Superman and Captain America), other-times I want someone is susceptible to falling and having a stronger character arc (Batman and Daredevil).
 
Oh, well then I'm glad! Not that it's a problem if you didn't like it. We dig, what we dig. Hopefully this new show will get some new DD fans!

Although I like dark stuff, there's always a limit. I tried to get into the New 52 Batman and it was so dark that it became silly. Bruce is just an emo jerk that beats his Robins and the Joker is like an evil Santa Clause ninja that teleports everywhere and knows everyone's history for some reason. Stuff like cutting the Joker's face off or making every single Batman villain into a psychopath with daddy issues doesn't seem more mature too me; it's just juvenile. I don't want to offend anyone here that likes it, but I guess, it just wasn't for me. I always have "Heart of Ice," but did you have to make Victor into such a freak, Snyder? I'm just kidding! Hey, we can't be narcissists. I'm happy there's something for everyone!

I will say that the New 52 Wonder Woman was prettay pretty good!
 
Wow wow wow.

Greatness on the tube awaits us.

I agree with Deckard, give me a Punisher like this.

There was a second there where it almost veered into the Daredevil movie territory, but then it swung back out and went into its own thing.

Idk, is it bad to have some of the better elements from the movie incorporated into this?

Either way, this looks like some killer crime drama stuff.
 
Wow wow wow.

Greatness on the tube awaits us.

I agree with Deckard, give me a Punisher like this.

There was a second there where it almost veered into the Daredevil movie territory, but then it swung back out and went into its own thing.

Idk, is it bad to have some of the better elements from the movie incorporated into this?

Either way, this looks like some killer crime drama stuff.

I wish I had Netflix. Just saw the trailer. Awesome sauce.
 
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