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[ZE_501]

Oh for the love of god can we move on and start talking about the newest episode already.
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I get it

Do you have to go and bring God into this?

 

[e30ernest]

I never got the hate for WV. I think all the haters were just po'd that their predictions were completely wrong, so instead of just appreciating it for what it was they needed to lash out. The Ralph Bohner character still makes me smile.

Haha yes, a lot of criticism I see over this is pretty summed up by what you say there. I still find Ralph Bohner funny too.

 

[ironwez20]

I never got the hate for WV. I think all the haters were just po'd that their predictions were completely wrong, so instead of just appreciating it for what it was they needed to lash out. The Ralph Bohner character still makes me smile.

Cause they sold it that way. Lol. They made it seem like this huge mystery that will have a huge impact on the mcu . It was the first Disney plus mcu show. They marketed it as this big mystery show that will change the mcu forever and give us new insight into things.

It fell flat and built towards nothing. Why bring the xmen quicksilver into the fold if you aren’t going to do anything about it but make a stupid joke. That was a huge middle finger. Why keep building up a mystery that didn’t change anything but confirm what we already knew? The multiverse was being explored at the time but the show did nothing but confuse people with the inclusion of xmen quicksilver thinking he was another one but no he’s just some guy.

Loki handled the multiverse better than wv

Wanda took control of a town and yet again a z list character was behind all the bad things that went on with town. Then they kept acting like new characters were going to be revealed when all it led up to was some crap credit scene for the next cap marvel film and dr strange 2. There was no payoff .

 

[The Buffinator]

Cause they sold it that way. Lol. They made it seem like this huge mystery that will have a huge impact on the mcu . It was the first Disney plus mcu show. They marketed it as this big mystery show that will change the mcu forever and give us new insight into things.

It fell flat and built towards nothing. Why bring the xmen quicksilver into the fold if you aren’t going to do anything about it but make a stupid joke. That was a huge middle finger. Why keep building up a mystery that didn’t change anything but confirm what we already knew? The multiverse was being explored at the time but the show did nothing but confuse people with the inclusion of xmen quicksilver thinking he was another one but no he’s just some guy.

Loki handled the multiverse better than wv

Wanda took control of a town and yet again a z list character was behind all the bad things that went on with town. Then they kept acting like new characters were going to be revealed when all it led up to was some crap credit scene for the next cap marvel film and dr strange 2. There was no payoff .

Well maybe you're more perceptive than me, because while I knew that Wanda was grieving over Vision's death, I didn't know it was to such an extent that she'd enslave/imprison an entire town to create a fantasy world in which she, Vision and their "children" could live happily ever after. Nor did I know she would ascend to become the prophesied 'Scarlet Witch' (although that name was unspoken until WV, I'd assumed she already was). And I certainly didn't know she would obtain the Darkhold, go full on evil and ultimately dreamwalk to other dimensions to hunt the one being (America Chavez) whose power could allow her to go to these dimensions herself and be where her children actually existed. I'll grant you that WV wasn't the complete, self-contained story that many of us wanted/expected, but IMO that didn't make it less compelling. And there was a payoff, but like much of this interconnected MCU it was just further down the road. In retrospect, that really shouldn't have been all that surprising lol.

 

[e30ernest]

Well maybe you're more perceptive than me, because while I knew that Wanda was grieving over Vision's death, I didn't know it was to such an extent that she'd enslave/imprison an entire town to create a fantasy world in which she, Vision and their "children" could live happily ever after. Nor did I know she would ascend to become the prophesied 'Scarlet Witch' (although that name was unspoken until WV, I'd assumed she already was). And I certainly didn't know she would obtain the Darkhold, go full on evil and ultimately dreamwalk to other dimensions to hunt the one being (America Chavez) whose power could allow her to go to these dimensions herself and be where her children actually existed. I'll grant you that WV wasn't the complete, self-contained story that many of us wanted/expected, but IMO that didn't make it less compelling. And there was a payoff, but like much of this interconnected MCU it was just further down the road. In retrospect, that really shouldn't have been all that surprising lol.

Yeah I agree here. I think it's worth remembering that MCU shows like these will have self-contained stories (for example, Wanda's ark in Westview) and then will have pay-offs several shows/movies later (DS:MoM) which will in itself be self contained stories with pay-offs down the road.

Even on Phase One, that was the case. IM1 paved the way to IM2 which in turn lead to Thor and CA, which then lead to Avengers Assemble. We just came from a major arc in the MCU (Infinity Saga) so they are world-building once again for the next arc.

 

[ironwez20]

Well maybe you're more perceptive than me, because while I knew that Wanda was grieving over Vision's death, I didn't know it was to such an extent that she'd enslave/imprison an entire town to create a fantasy world in which she, Vision and their "children" could live happily ever after. Nor did I know she would ascend to become the prophesied 'Scarlet Witch' (although that name was unspoken until WV, I'd assumed she already was). And I certainly didn't know she would obtain the Darkhold, go full on evil and ultimately dreamwalk to other dimensions to hunt the one being (America Chavez) whose power could allow her to go to these dimensions herself and be where her children actually existed. I'll grant you that WV wasn't the complete, self-contained story that many of us wanted/expected, but IMO that didn't make it less compelling. And there was a payoff, but like much of this interconnected MCU it was just further down the road. In retrospect, that really shouldn't have been all that surprising lol.

No that’s not it what I mean is that they were building it up to connect with multiverse and make the mcu “bigger” they tried making it a mystery of who did it and what’s going on but once it was revealed it was just someone that everyone already assumed was the bad guy and the “big mystery “ wasn’t all that big. I’m just saying that marvel themselves kept pushing this like the big reveal would be crazy and change the mcu forever. I mean yes we got tie ins to dr strange 2 but it didn’t change the whole universe.

 

[jye4ever]

DS2 didn’t even have Vision

 

[The Buffinator]

No that’s not it what I mean is that they were building it up to connect with multiverse and make the mcu “bigger” they tried making it a mystery of who did it and what’s going on but once it was revealed it was just someone that everyone already assumed was the bad guy and the “big mystery “ wasn’t all that big. I’m just saying that marvel themselves kept pushing this like the big reveal would be crazy and change the mcu forever. I mean yes we got tie ins to dr strange 2 but it didn’t change the whole universe.

Well, Agatha in the end was just a minor, supporting "bad guy" who was trying to siphon off Wanda's powers for herself, while the real villain was indeed Wanda all along. They took one of the principal heroes from the victory over Thanos and his army in Endgame and put her on a dark path from which she (seemingly) didn't recover. Maybe it wasn't a crazy development that changed the MCU but it certainly subverted expectations in that it deviated from the standard Marvel recipe.

 

[The Buffinator]

DS2 didn’t even have Vision

The Scarlet Witch knew not to bring him into the picture. If he rebelled against Wanda taking over a small town I'm guessing he'd be none too pleased with SW killing America Chavez and universe hopping as she pleased, consequences be damned lol. Also the only Vision around is White Vision, and SW is lactose intolerant.

I'll see myself out...

 

[HPGR_Thrawn]

Caught up on episodes 2 and 3 and still loving every second!

Characters are all so real. Loved the illumen-aunties line!

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Caught up on episodes 2 and 3 and still loving every second!

Characters are all so real. Loved the illumen-aunties line!

Yeah, they rock!

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[e30ernest]

I like the story, I really don't like any of the action. It's like they spent all their budget on Moon Knight. The effects are worse than CW.

Still, the story is ok. It's still intriguing enough for me to come back next week.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

I think the SFX are okay and I like the story a lot. As for the action, I wasn't expecting anything other than what we are getting.

 

[Omega9300]

I haven’t seen this show yet, I’ll try to give it a look this week.

I loved Wanda Vision and Moon Knight, and enjoyed Loki a lot. I liked Falcon and WS also but not as much as the others (I had high expectations), in any case I want to see this show bk I know nothing about the character as she was introduced many years after I stopped collecting comics in the early 80’s

 

[jye4ever]

Holy crap episode 4 was a better Indiana Jones movie then the last Indiana Jones movie we got!!!!!

Hands-down the best MCU show!

Damn shame the ratings.

Damn this episode had atmosphere, color and wonderful textures.

The partition scene at the end is right out of a high budget Indiana Jones movie!

 

[e30ernest]

I like where this episode brought Kamala in the end. Really looking forward to the next.

I really find the fight choreography and vfx cringy though......

 

[jye4ever]

I agree that the cgi is obviously not of cinematic quality nor are some of the fight choreography although some of it does work I always loved Indian swords and daggers and the colors just pop the costumes and city are spectacular so it’s very easy to overlook the weaker elements when there is so much good.

My gosh that ending.

Remember this is a family show not The Boys meet Temple of Doom temper your expectations lol

 

[e30ernest]

It doesn't have to be cinematic quality. They've done some excellent fight choreography with pretty good effects with the limited budget of the Netflix series and AoS. Choreography was mostly good in the other D+ Marvel shows too.

That said, the show's story is really keeping the show up and I'd take good story over good fx/choreo.

 

[guyver1]

I like how the fun and games is over and now we are getting true MCU flow in ep 4

 

[guyver1]

The actual villains are boring