Marvel Studios/Sony - SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING

[Anzik]

Re: OFFICIAL: Marvel Studios Spider-Man

Thor is thousands of years old. Two years is a blink of the eye. "Two years? Thou are upset over two years? Verily I hath had bowel movements longer than that."

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

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"With the Bifrost gone, how much dark energy did the Allfather have to muster to conjure you here, your precious Earth?"

Notice how that line is phrased. It isn't an explanation it's a question.

Loki theorised that Odin sent Thor back and asked Thor to confirm that but he never did, nor did Thor ever state how he was sent to Earth later on

It would be like Catwoman asking Batman "How many of Banes guards did you have to bribe to smuggle you back to Gotham?"

Just because Loki asked Thor how he got back with his own theory doesn't mean that his theory is anywhere close to correct, all it means is Loki made a guess, asked Thor if that guess was right and got left hanging.

Same if Catwoman asked any of those questions above and Bruce didn't respond doesn't mean she's right, just that that is what she thinks happened

 

[YoNoSe]

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That line "With the Bifrost gone, how much dark energy did the Allfather have to muster to conjure you here, your precious Earth?" Isn't an explanation it's a question. Loki theorised that Odin sent Thor back and asked Thor to confirm that but he never did, nor did Thor ever state how he was sent to Earth later on

It would be like Catwoman saying to Batman "Without resources how did you use to get back to Gotham?" or by proposing a theory like Loki "How many of Banes guards did you have to bribe to smuggle you back to Gotham?

Just because Loki asked thor how he got back with a theory doesn't mean that theory is anywhere close to correct, all it means is Loki made a guess, asked Thor if that guess was right and got left hanging.

Same if Catwoman asked any of those questions above and Bruce didn't respond doesn't mean she's right .

Nope.

Loki is right, so Thor doesn't answer.

That's called exposition for people who aren't idiots.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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"With the Bifrost gone, how much dark energy did the Allfather have to muster to conjure you here, your precious Earth?"

Notice how that line is phrased. It isn't an explanation it's a question.

Loki theorised that Odin sent Thor back and asked Thor to confirm that but he never did, nor did Thor ever state how he was sent to Earth later on

It would be like Catwoman asking Batman "How many of Banes guards did you have to bribe to smuggle you back to Gotham?"

Just because Loki asked Thor how he got back with his own theory doesn't mean that his theory is anywhere close to correct, all it means is Loki made a guess, asked Thor if that guess was right and got left hanging.

Same if Catwoman asked any of those questions above and Bruce didn't respond doesn't mean she's right, just that that is what she thinks happened

Then the plothole theory still stands

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

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Exposition is stating something as fact. A question isn't fact it's an inquiry into fact. Thor never confirmed how he got back so all that remains is Loki's theory over what happened, how he thinks it happened but something that the movie never states actually happened

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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Nope.

Loki is right, so Thor doesn't answer.

That's called exposition for people who aren't idiots.

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

Re: OFFICIAL: Marvel Studios Spider-Man

Then the plothole theory still stands

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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Exposition is stating something as fact. A question isn't fact it's an inquiry into fact. Thor never confirmed how he got back so all that remains is Loki's theory over what happened, how he thinks it happened but something that the movie never states actually happened

 

[karamazov80]

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That's called exposition for people who aren't idiots.

Boom Goes the Dynamite - YouTube

 

[YoNoSe]

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Exposition is stating something as fact.

No it's not.

Exposition is providing background information into a story. Good exposition accomplishes this without declaring itself. Unfortunately this is lost on a segment of the audience that needs a diagram.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: OFFICIAL: Marvel Studios Spider-Man

No it's not.

Exposition is providing background information into a story. Good exposition accomplishes this without declaring itself. Unfortunately this is lost on a segment of the audience that needs a diagram.

So. . .what are you saying, exactly?

 

[Anzik]

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If she weighs the same as a duck....

 

[YoNoSe]

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So. . .what are you saying, exactly?

I don't even know why I bother, dude. I'm so lost in this section.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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No it's not.

Exposition is providing background information into a story. Good exposition accomplishes this without declaring itself. Unfortunately this is lost on a segment of the audience that needs a diagram.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

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No it's not.

Exposition is providing background information into a story. Good exposition accomplishes this without declaring itself. Unfortunately this is lost on a segment of the audience that needs a diagram.

And Loki didn't do that. He theorised possible background information and asked Thor if he was correct.

I will say this though. Loki's question confirms that Odin has the power to send people to Earth with Dark Magic, but doesn't establish that that was in fact the method used since Thor never answered.

What happened was they wrote the ending of Thor without considering that he had to come back for Avengers so they had a throwaway line inserted to suggest a possible way for Thor to return without the Bifrost.

Their failing was that the only suggested a possible way, they didn't confirm that was the way

Let's say that when Coulson showed Rogers the costume he made for him that Rogers asked "Looks nice, what's it made from polyester?" And Coulson doesn't respond.

That wouldn't confirm the suit is polyester it simply means Steve wanted to know if it was polyester.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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Well, I ran out of Bruce Lee gifs

Anyway, none of that was necessary because Thor should be able to do it without the help of Odin

Also, had Joss Whedon watched the Thor film, he would have known that back on earth, they showed Jane and the other scientists searching for a way to open a portal to Asgard, so again...the whole Odin thing, pointless.

 

[pturtle]

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And Loki didn't do that. He theorised possible background information and asked Thor if he was correct.

I will say this though. Loki's question confirms that Odin has the power to send people to Earth with Dark Magic, but doesn't establish that that was in fact the method used since Thor never answered.

What happened was they wrote the ending of Thor without considering that he had to come back for Avengers so they had a throwaway line inserted to suggest a possible way for Thor to return without the Bifrost.

Their failing was that the only suggested a possible way, they didn't confirm that was the way

Let's say that when Coulson showed Rogers the costume he made for him that Rogers asked "Looks nice, what's it made from polyester?" And Coulson doesn't respond.

That wouldn't confirm the suit is polyester it simply means Steve wanted to know if it was polyester.

According to Deckardpedia, thats quality writing

Thats my last jab of the day I swear.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

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It's not really even a plot hole for the Avengers itself but it's a major one for the ending of Thor as the ending of Thor hinges on them not being able to reunite due to the destruction of the bifrost. Him showing up shortly after on Earth in Avengers undermines that ending by establishing he could've gotten back

 

[Deckard]

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According to Deckardpedia, thats quality writing

Thats my last jab of the day I swear.

He probably enjoyed it until Deckard told him that Wolverine didn't really travel to the past like Marty Mcfly and Kyle Reese did.

Dang dude, you're still butt hurt I told you I didn't like X-Men yesterday? Probably time for you to get some friends in real life.

 

[pturtle]

OFFICIAL: Marvel Studios Spider-Man

Dang dude, you're still butt hurt I told you I didn't like X-Men yesterday? Probably time for you to get some friends in real life.

Ah come on man, just some fun digs no need to get upset. That was my last one, unless someone else throws me another alley oop.