Marvel Studios/Sony - SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING

[Thomascrown17]

Now im confused lol. I think reboot is starting over with the purpose to build a ne franchise with the same characters and do in a different direction? But then i think of xmen franchise and think wasnt first class a "soft" reboot? Them there was batman forever which was a reboot but also a continuation of tim burtons batman? Aw f me lol


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[crows]

Days of future past made first class a straight prequel. It is just a straight prequel now.

Batman forever mentions the previous movie i think, plus the same butler actor connects all four movies.
Batman forever is a sequel because it continues thr story

 

[Khev]

Now im confused lol. I think reboot is starting over with the purpose to build a ne franchise with the same characters and do in a different direction? But then i think of xmen franchise and think wasnt first class a "soft" reboot? Them there was batman forever which was a reboot but also a continuation of tim burtons batman? Aw f me lol

Don't forget Matrix Reloaded and Apocalypse Now Redux to muddy the waters even further, lol.

 

[Thomascrown17]

Don't forget Matrix Reloaded and Apocalypse Now Redux to muddy the waters even further, lol.

Hahaha yup!


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[Thomascrown17]

I assume you're only meaning superhero reboots? Because Beauty and the Beast blew Spidey away.

Yeah superheroes


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[crows]

Don't forget Matrix Reloaded and Apocalypse Now Redux to muddy the waters even further, lol.

What?

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

You are making me wonder if remakes have ever gotten sequels. I cant really think if they have. I guess u are right, remakes are one offs.

The Fly was a remake and it got a sequel.

 

[crows]

The Fly was a remake and it got a sequel.

Did it follow the same plot?

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Did it follow the same plot?

Which one?

There is also the Ocean's Eleven remake, which got two sequels.

 

[crows]

The first one

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The first one

Yes, the Fly remake has the same plot....guy performs experiment and turns into a fly.

 

[crows]

Yeah, i am sure reboot means same characters but different story.

The jumanji reboot sequel thing is not a remake because the story changes.

 

[EVILFACE]

The Force Awakens is a remake and is getting a sequel.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Yeah, i am sure reboot means same characters but different story.

I'm not sure if there is a single definitive quality that separates the two, but maybe it depends on the movie. Rise of the Planet of the Apes is a reboot because is a new story based on the events of the original film, but because it's not the same story, it's not a remake.


The James Bond franchise probably created or at least popularized the concept of reboots, since the Roger Moore films aren't sequels to the Connery films. However, certain actors from the previous series always return, so there is some connection to the previous movies, but they don't directly acknowledge it.

 

[crows]

True, true as well.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The Force Awakens is a remake and is getting a sequel.

TFA is a remake, reboot, and a sequel

 

[Khev]

I now think that more often than not a movie is a "reboot" if it doesn't *need* a new cast but they use the excuse of a different actor to simply start things over. So if previous actors are dead or too old and a studio wants to present a new version of a story for a new audience then typically that would be a remake. But ASM for instance was considered a reboot instead because they could have easily continued with Maguire and instead done SM4. So in previous decades you wouldn't call something like King Kong, The Thing, or The Fly a reboot because so much time had passed since the previous iterations.

But now with studios repackaging and reintroducing the same characters every 2-5 years now the process is more akin to rebooting a computer which happens much more often than some old classic being remade.

 

[ironwez20]

Lol asm was considered an untold story remember? Kinda funny how that untold story was the same damn story that had nothing to do with the previous movies. If Sony was smart they'd soft reboot it with Andrew's spidey taking place before spiderman 2 with Peter fighting the lizard and it sort of intertwines with the rami movies.
To bad Sony is stupid and ran by idiots.

 

[Khev]

ASM redid Uncle Ben's death though so there really isn't any room for overlap (though I suppose SM3 redid Uncle Ben's death too, lol.)

 

[ironwez20]

Redid uncle ben's death in a lazy and horrible way.

Peter finds out the guy who shot ben through a drawing. He also never finds him. So it was like what was the point then?

Also uncle ben damn near shot himself. But yea spiderman 3 messed up up completely to. Sandman being ben's killer was utterly stupid.