Marvel's The Black Panther

[YoNoSe]

Ah, sorry to open old wounds.

I liked the hokey jokes and thought the humor in TWS was a nice evolution. Like, yeah - being the dork got old.

And of course he needed cover - his costume was made of terry cloth! (RIP cinematic Coulson - you were a pooooor costume designer).

But I see what you mean.

 

[Khev]

Ah, sorry to open old wounds.

Thankfully the Russos have healed those wounds (and now people like EVILFACE get to be pissed watching Spidey get his *** handed to him by Cap, lol) and with them working with the same two script writers that penned TFA/TWS/CW I'm confident that he'll be in good hands once more with IW.

 

[jye4ever]

I’m not liking his dual wrist shield gaunlets in IW.

He better get his shield back in IW.

I hope he bangs Shuri though.

 

[Thomascrown17]

I’m not liking his dual wrist shield gaunlets in IW.

He better get his shield back in IW.

I hope he bangs Shuri though.

He will get that damn shield [emoji2]

Isnt she 16? You know what nvmnd. Imma sit this out


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[Khev]

I’m not liking his dual wrist shield gaunlets in IW.

He better get his shield back in IW.

I hope he bangs Shuri though.

I like that he has a new shield from Wakanda because that happened when he stepped down as Cap in the comics but yeah, he needs the round one for sure.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Oh man some people are going to roll their eyes as I've gone off about this quite often (lol) but in a nutshell:

1. That horrific cowl (and the rest of the suit isn't that great either)

2. The fact that he was made to be a fish out of water doofus with the way he lit up about the flying monkeys reference. (In contrast the Russos gave us a similar moment in TWS where Widow starting talking about War Games and he deadpanned "Yeah I've seen it" before immediately refocusing her to the mission at hand. Or his tongue in cheek references to his old Barbershop Quartet and "she'd be over 90 years old" "so are we pal, so are we." The Russos got the exact same point across without him being the dopey butt of other people's jokes.)

3. Him struggling to put down 3 or 4 non-superpowered SHIELD agents on the Helicarrier. Hnnngh. Cowering behind cover, wildly spraying his assault rifle (and hitting no one) before almost falling off the carrier until IM not only rescued him but dispatched the final SHIELD agent that Steve was too incompetent to finish off himself.

4. That horrific, horrific cowl.

Him impressing the cops by taking down all those Chitauri *could* have been cool if he didn't look like such a dork doing it, lol. He was okay in parts ("Hulk smash" was great" and I liked his "there's only one God ma'am" line) but for me the negative by far outweigh the positive.

It was painfully obvious that Whedon didn't give a crap about Cap, Hawkeye, and Thor and gave all the best/coolest moments to IM, Widow, and Hulk.

Also, Stark owned Cap during their verbal battle....and Tony was right about Fury. At least it was Cap who knew what Loki was up to and he got the team back together....because of Fury's manipulation, but still, Cap was the emotional leader, when Tony was down.

 

[JAWS]

I know you were put off by the fact that the Hulk was "neutered" (even though Thor was technically losing to him prior to unleashing the lightning and it was almost implied that Hulk might have stopped Surtur at full strength from destroying Ragnarok had he not been called away) but as an 80's style space flick starring Thor himself do you not find it entertaining?

Even I acknowledge that as an IM/Hulk/BW flick the original Avengers is pretty cool. It's just the Cap stuff that annoys me.

I was watching Thor 3 last night and it just does not work for me.

I don't find most of the jokes funny. It suffers from everyone playing the comic relief. Everybody has jokes. It ruined Hela IMO. She had the chance to be a top Marvel villain. Now she was just another character in the film spewing jokes that IMO were not very funny. But like I said it was not just her... Everyone was a comic relief. In that way it reminded me of ID4 and 98 Godzilla. Everybody has the jokes.

I also hated much of the slapstick humor. I remember two of the biggest laughs in the theater were Thor getting hit in the head by the metal ball that bounce back and hit him and Banner not changing into the hulk when he umps from the ship and goes splat on the bridge.. And watching it again I know exactly why. I don't hate slapstick but I hate CGI slapstick. Peter Seller's Pink Panther films or the Three Stooges were funny because the slapstick was done by real actors. When CGI is used it just does not strike me as humorous.

The look of the film drives me nuts also.. Not that it looks like a Kirby panel of art but it just looks like cheap fake sets. It takes me out of the film a bit.

Yes the Hulk was technically winning in the arena until Thor tapped his powers.. I get more frustrated by his lack of use period.. Especially at the end of the film.. And again, like every other character in the film, he is just played for jokes.

Just not a fan at all of that film.

 

[jye4ever]

I like that he has a new shield from Wakanda because that happened when he stepped down as Cap in the comics but yeah, he needs the round one for sure.

I just don’t like the design of it but lets see probably inconsequential anyways lol

But I absolutely love his beard.

Unlike WB Marvel knows when to use facial hair.

 

[Khev]

I was watching Thor 3 last night and it just does not work for me.

I don't find most of the jokes funny. It suffers from everyone playing the comic relief. Everybody has jokes. It ruined Hela IMO. She had the chance to be a top Marvel villain. Now she was just another character in the film spewing jokes that IMO were not very funny. But like I said it was not just her... Everyone was a comic relief. In that way it reminded me of ID4 and 98 Godzilla. Everybody has the jokes.

I also hated much of the slapstick humor. I remember two of the biggest laughs in the theater were Thor getting hit in the head by the metal ball that bounce back and hit him and Banner not changing into the hulk when he umps from the ship and goes splat on the bridge.. And watching it again I know exactly why. I don't hate slapstick but I hate CGI slapstick. Peter Seller's Pink Panther films or the Three Stooges were funny because the slapstick was done by real actors. When CGI is used it just does not strike me as humorous.

The look of the film drives me nuts also.. Not that it looks like a Kirby panel of art but it just looks like cheap fake sets. It takes me out of the film a bit.

Yes the Hulk was technically winning in the arena until Thor tapped his powers.. I get more frustrated by his lack of use period.. Especially at the end of the film.. And again, like every other character in the film, he is just played for jokes.

Just not a fan at all of that film.

Oh there's no question that Ragnarok is silly, in fact it clearly aspires to be much sillier than both of those two crappy Roland Emmerich flicks you mentioned. But I'm quite fine with it being an updated "Ice Pirates" or what have you. And aren't you a big fan of the GotG movies? Everybody brings the jokes in those movies too. But I guess if you find that the humor in GotG is actually funny as opposed to Thor then that would obviously be the deciding factor. I didn't laugh at everything, in fact I thought the teleporting slapstick in Dr. Strange's mansion was weak as hell.

But I chuckled at a good portion of Hemsworth's lines and antics (him quietly throwing rocks at Loki's hologram while Loki is trying to make a point, lol) and I actually did lol at Banner hitting the bridge. Not so much because of Banner himself but just the way the dog comes to a complete halt, utterly confused, lol. That just really struck me as probably being exactly how a charging dog would react to a tiny man splatting on the ground in front of him for no reason.

The movie has it's flaws (no question about that) and some of the more cringeworthy green screen shots do take me out of the it but I can't help but find it quite entertaining as a whole.

 

[JAWS]

Oh man some people are going to roll their eyes as I've gone off about this quite often (lol) but in a nutshell:

1. That horrific cowl (and the rest of the suit isn't that great either)

That Cowl is awful and like you said the rest of the suit is bad also. Bad bad stuff.

Luckily he does not wear the cowl during some of the scenes.

2. The fact that he was made to be a fish out of water doofus with the way he lit up about the flying monkeys reference. (In contrast the Russos gave us a similar moment in TWS where Widow starting talking about War Games and he deadpanned "Yeah I've seen it" before immediately refocusing her to the mission at hand. Or his tongue in cheek references to his old Barbershop Quartet and "she'd be over 90 years old" "so are we pal, so are we." The Russos got the exact same point across without him being the dopey butt of other people's jokes.)

Hmmm I did recall Cap being that much of the Butt of the Jokes.. I remember Tony being a **** to him but Tony is a ****

3. Him struggling to put down 3 or 4 non-superpowered SHIELD agents on the Helicarrier. Hnnngh. Cowering behind cover, wildly spraying his assault rifle (and hitting no one) before almost falling off the carrier until IM not only rescued him but dispatched the final SHIELD agent that Steve was too incompetent to finish off himself.

I think you might be a bit nitpicky here because Cap made up for that in most of the final battles BUT

4. That horrific, horrific cowl.

Him impressing the cops by taking down all those Chitauri *could* have been cool if he didn't look like such a dork doing it, lol. He was okay in parts ("Hulk smash" was great" and I liked his "there's only one God ma'am" line) but for me the negative by far outweigh the positive.

He does look bad even when he is doing good.

PS - The "There's only one God Ma'am" line may be my fav Cap line in all the films


I still say cap comes across better in The Avengers then Hulk does in AOU or Thor 3. In those films Hulk gets his butt kicked by Hulk Buster, Thor, Poems , struggles fighting a giant dog, and only gets a moment or two ripping worthless drones apart and acts far more child like (Thor 3) then he ever did in the comics.

It was painfully obvious that Whedon didn't give a crap about Cap, Hawkeye, and Thor and gave all the best/coolest moments to IM, Widow, and Hulk

Going to have to watch the film again with that in mind. I think Cap gets a better showing then Thor and Hawkeye though.​

 

[JAWS]

Oh there's no question that Ragnarok is silly, in fact it clearly aspires to be much sillier than both of those two crappy Roland Emmerich flicks you mentioned. But I'm quite fine with it being an updated "Ice Pirates" or what have you. And aren't you a big fan of the GotG movies? Everybody brings the jokes in those movies too. But I guess if you find that the humor in GotG is actually funny as opposed to Thor then that would obviously be the deciding factor. I didn't laugh at everything, in fact I thought the teleporting slapstick in Dr. Strange's mansion was weak as hell.

I would not say I am a huge fan of GotG films.. But I think they are much better made movies with better humor then Thor 3.

There are moments I laughed in Thor 3. I just thought that every moment being played for the Joke ruined the movie.

Edit: Thor reciting the Poem to Hulk was / is very funny.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Driver and venom tho? Lol yea I’m pretty sure those movies have nothing to do with one another. Ones about a big monster alien and the other is about well.... a driver

Let's put it this way - if you like Drive, you're going to like Venom.

I'm trying to help you understand the psychology of Fleischer's film vs. your own misconceived notions of a what a Venom movie should be.

 

[Khev]

Also, Stark owned Cap during their verbal battle....

Yeah Cap even goes "full SNIKT" by challenging Stark to a fist fight after realizing he was losing the argument...

But I absolutely love his beard.

Unlike WB Marvel knows when to use facial hair.

And when not to use it.

PS - The "There's only one God Ma'am" line may be my fav Cap line in all the films

Probably the best line by anyone in the entire MCU.

I still say cap comes across better in The Avengers then Hulk does in AOU or Thor 3. In those films Hulk gets his butt kicked by Hulk Buster, Thor, Poems , struggles fighting a giant dog, and only gets a moment or two ripping worthless drones apart and acts far more child like (Thor 3) then he ever did in the comics.

Well it *was* an indestructible Asgardian dog and one that one of Asgard's greatest warriors (Valkyrie) couldn't even slow down. But yeah he does act like a pouty child for whatever reason for a good portion of the film's second half. We're such whiners about how "cool" our favorite childhood superheroes are portrayed.

Going to have to watch the film again with that in mind. I think Cap gets a better showing then Thor and Hawkeye though.

Hawkeye definitely got the biggest shaft (no pun intended), no question there, lol.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Let's put it this way - if you like Drive, you're going to like Venom.

I'm trying to help you understand the psychology of Fleischer's film vs. your own misconceived notions of a what a Venom movie should be.

I love Drive. Fleischer is no Nicolas Winding Refn.

 

[Khev]

Wanting to be Drive and actually succeeding at being Drive are two different things. We'll see when the movie is actually released.

 

[JAWS]

Why all the comparisons of Venom with Drive.. Its been awhile since I watched Drive but watching the Venom trailer again does nothing to make me think of Drive.

The Venom trailer itself had more dialogue then Drive

 

[SNIKT1950]

Why all the comparisons of Venom with Drive

1. 1976: A sociopath seeking peace and wellness who lives removed and under the radar meets a troubled young girl and dons his costume to rescue her from her captors, using his skills at violence to do so.

2. 2011: A sociopath seeking peace and wellness who lives removed and under the radar meets a troubled woman and dons his costume to protect her and her child, using his skills at violence to do so.

3. 2018: A sociopath seeking peace and wellness who lives removed and under the radar meets a woman and dons his costume to protect her and others, using his skills at violence to do so.

 

[ironwez20]

That’s what I’m saying. Why the hell does he keep comparing a venom movie to drive. Venom isn’t going to be that deep of a movie

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The Venom trailer itself had more dialogue then Drive

The trailer has Hardy doing a funny voice

 

[Captain Clown]

Michael B. Jordan buys teen a new retainer after
she bit through it during his shirtless Black
Panther scene

https://www.avclub.com/michael-b-jordan-buys-teen-a-new-retainer-after-she-bi-1823581527