Medicom RAH Alien 2008 (Sideshow)
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The more I read about this particular figure, the more apparent it becomes to me that I will not be able to pass him up. The new pics are gorgeous, he is a work of art. A true celebration of what an "action figure" can be. And I too hope he goes up for preorder next week as well. It was kind of a quiet week on the newsletter for Alien fans.
But a question: Where did this term "big chap" originate? Any insight?
The more I read about this particular figure, the more apparent it becomes to me that I will not be able to pass him up. The new pics are gorgeous, he is a work of art. A true celebration of what an "action figure" can be. And I too hope he goes up for preorder next week as well. It was kind of a quiet week on the newsletter for Alien fans.
But a question: Where did this term "big chap" originate? Any insight?
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This is an interesting issue. I have never really heard the term myself, but I can tell you that it's almost certainly not something that the Japanese created themselves. Maybe Ridley Scott or someone used the term off-handedly to describe the alien in an interview or something and the Japanese media picked it up. Interestingly, the Japanese wikipedia and one other web site both said that the term meant "big head," which is obviously wrong.
This is an interesting issue. I have never really heard the term myself, but I can tell you that it's almost certainly not something that the Japanese created themselves. Maybe Ridley Scott or someone used the term off-handedly to describe the alien in an interview or something and the Japanese media picked it up. Interestingly, the Japanese wikipedia and one other web site both said that the term meant "big head," which is obviously wrong.
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Now why would it "certainly not" be something the Japanese created?
Which it is, by the way. But I'd like to hear your reasoning.
Now why would it "certainly not" be something the Japanese created?
Which it is, by the way. But I'd like to hear your reasoning.
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What are the inaccurracies?
Beautiful...just beautiful.
Not screen accurate. But it's definately going in my collection.
What are the inaccurracies?
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Well, they're minor inaccuracies. Not something the casual fan would notice.
The dome is a bit flat in the front. The feet are not quite right and it's missing the teeth on the ox jaw heel spikes. The Alien's fingers were never splayed apart. Because it was sculpted with 4 fingers and 2 thumbs, the fingers were wired together in pairs on the suit. So when the actor moved his fingers, there wouldn't be one extra finger that didn't move.
But these are the norm it seems for most Alien sculpts. Except for NECA's.
Medicom did, however, make the dome with no seam in the back. Which is correct. NECA did not...their version has a seam.
Still won't keep me from getting this as it's a really great looking figure.
Well, they're minor inaccuracies. Not something the casual fan would notice.
The dome is a bit flat in the front. The feet are not quite right and it's missing the teeth on the ox jaw heel spikes. The Alien's fingers were never splayed apart. Because it was sculpted with 4 fingers and 2 thumbs, the fingers were wired together in pairs on the suit. So when the actor moved his fingers, there wouldn't be one extra finger that didn't move.
But these are the norm it seems for most Alien sculpts. Except for NECA's.
Medicom did, however, make the dome with no seam in the back. Which is correct. NECA did not...their version has a seam.
Still won't keep me from getting this as it's a really great looking figure.
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Thanks for the bigger pics. Sorry I am not computer savy...
It does look SWEET
Beautiful...just beautiful.
Not screen accurate. But it's definately going in my collection.
Thanks for the bigger pics.
Sorry I am not computer savy... It does look SWEET
icruise
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Well, I'm a Japanese translator, I lived in Japan for 5 years, and my wife is Japanese, so I'm somewhat familiar with "Japanese English" and I find it very unlikely that they would spontaneously choose to use the word "chap" in this case when I've never heard them use it in any other context. What is your reasoning for saying that they did create it?
Well, I'm a Japanese translator, I lived in Japan for 5 years, and my wife is Japanese, so I'm somewhat familiar with "Japanese English" and I find it very unlikely that they would spontaneously choose to use the word "chap" in this case when I've never heard them use it in any other context. What is your reasoning for saying that they did create it?
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This brings up an interesting question that I've often wondered about. First off, Sabres, I'm not questioning your opinion or comments, I'm just using them as a springboard for my question.
I hear a lot of collectors say that something isn't screen accurate; as in the case of the Alien, if the reproduction "fixes" something that was only done to facilitate filming (as in wiring the fingers together to move together), why wouldn't the collector want it the "correct" way. And I'm not just talking about the Alien. There have been many things in films, that were done just because of low budgets, etc., that could be represented the way they were meant to be when producing figures, but collectors then state they aren't "screen accurate". Why does it really matter, if it corrects the issue to what it was "meant" to be by the film makers, but couldn't be done for whatever reason?
Please, keep your answers civil; I'm not trying to start a debate about "screen accuracy"... I am just curious about the answer. For me, if the figure "represents" what was "intended", then I'm fine with it.
This brings up an interesting question that I've often wondered about. First off, Sabres, I'm not questioning your opinion or comments, I'm just using them as a springboard for my question.
I hear a lot of collectors say that something isn't screen accurate; as in the case of the Alien, if the reproduction "fixes" something that was only done to facilitate filming (as in wiring the fingers together to move together), why wouldn't the collector want it the "correct" way. And I'm not just talking about the Alien. There have been many things in films, that were done just because of low budgets, etc., that could be represented the way they were meant to be when producing figures, but collectors then state they aren't "screen accurate". Why does it really matter, if it corrects the issue to what it was "meant" to be by the film makers, but couldn't be done for whatever reason?
Please, keep your answers civil; I'm not trying to start a debate about "screen accuracy"... I am just curious about the answer. For me, if the figure "represents" what was "intended", then I'm fine with it.
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You raise a good point Lonnie, and I think it just boils down to how each viewer perceives the source material. We all have varying knowledge of the source material, like how much Sabres knows about the production versus a casual viewer of the film and we all have personal tastes.
Sideshow's Star Wars products are at times a great example of screen vs. intention with the look of things, and most often not being screen causes issue, but often LFL pushes for changes to make things what they'd have liked them to be.
Most of the time, I'm in the camp of wanting pieces to look like what you see on screen, even if some aspects were only due to budget or necessity for the filmmaking, that is what you saw and that's how I'd like products to be.
The Hot Toys ALIENS warrior paint apps are a good example. Some people pointed out what colors the ALIENS suit was on screen, but the Hot Toys paint scheme is more reflective of what came through in the movie itself. Cameron loves moody blue lighting, and the HT figure features the highlight style of the original suit, but colored in a way that represents the film. One of the unique things about the ALIEN is that there were 6 physically molded fingers, but ultimately it looked like 4, but that is how it looked in the movie and in a way, I think it enhances how alien the creature looks because the hands formed an odd shape being done that way.
You raise a good point Lonnie, and I think it just boils down to how each viewer perceives the source material. We all have varying knowledge of the source material, like how much Sabres knows about the production versus a casual viewer of the film and we all have personal tastes.
Sideshow's Star Wars products are at times a great example of screen vs. intention with the look of things, and most often not being screen causes issue, but often LFL pushes for changes to make things what they'd have liked them to be.
Most of the time, I'm in the camp of wanting pieces to look like what you see on screen, even if some aspects were only due to budget or necessity for the filmmaking, that is what you saw and that's how I'd like products to be.
The Hot Toys ALIENS warrior paint apps are a good example. Some people pointed out what colors the ALIENS suit was on screen, but the Hot Toys paint scheme is more reflective of what came through in the movie itself. Cameron loves moody blue lighting, and the HT figure features the highlight style of the original suit, but colored in a way that represents the film. One of the unique things about the ALIEN is that there were 6 physically molded fingers, but ultimately it looked like 4, but that is how it looked in the movie and in a way, I think it enhances how alien the creature looks because the hands formed an odd shape being done that way.
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I posted about the fingers a few pages back. It's not a big deal, but that's how it was in the movie and that's how I remember it...even if it was just to facilitate filming. So that's how I'd like them to be now.
And back when I was a kid, I used to draw the Alien that way.
I posted about the fingers a few pages back. It's not a big deal, but that's how it was in the movie and that's how I remember it...even if it was just to facilitate filming. So that's how I'd like them to be now.
And back when I was a kid, I used to draw the Alien that way.
lcummins
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I think you are absolutely right! To be honest, I've seen ALIEN many, many times, but I just never noticed the fingers "melted" together like that until it was brought up earlier in this thread. I think for me, I just enjoy the movie or TV show, and don't get caught up in the details. I know a lot of collectors really get into that and want every little detail captured as accurately as possible, and I'm all for that if it gives me a better figure, it's just I wouldn't notice those little things if they weren't there, and I would still enjoy the figure just as much.
I think you are absolutely right! To be honest, I've seen ALIEN many, many times, but I just never noticed the fingers "melted" together like that until it was brought up earlier in this thread. I think for me, I just enjoy the movie or TV show, and don't get caught up in the details. I know a lot of collectors really get into that and want every little detail captured as accurately as possible, and I'm all for that if it gives me a better figure, it's just I wouldn't notice those little things if they weren't there, and I would still enjoy the figure just as much.
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I'd love to be able to look at things that way. I've spent so many years concerning myself with minute details in my artwork, I notice all sorts of stuff that sometimes make it hard to just sit back and enjoy.
I'd love to be able to look at things that way. I've spent so many years concerning myself with minute details in my artwork, I notice all sorts of stuff that sometimes make it hard to just sit back and enjoy.
lcummins
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My family have always told me I'm too laid back! But yeah, I think I'm lucky being able to just enjoy things sometimes!
My family have always told me I'm too laid back! But yeah, I think I'm lucky being able to just enjoy things sometimes!
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I was an ALIEN and Giger fanatic at the age of 13. I collected everything and anything I could... even before the movie came out. And even though I studied every little detail, it never interfered with my ability too enjoy (I was 13 after all). And it still doesn't ruin things for me if things aren't screen-accurate. I think it's 100 times worst with some SW fans.
Here's a little side story: Back in 1979 I remember hearing that there was going to be an interview with Giger in Penthouse magazine. I don't think I knew exactly what Penthouse was at the time and asked my dad to pick me up a copy. It was funny when one day he came home from work and handed me a Manilla envelope with just the pages of the interview and artwork ripped out of the magazine. He told me not to let my mom find out!
Here's the hand sculpt. btw:
I was an ALIEN and Giger fanatic at the age of 13. I collected everything and anything I could... even before the movie came out. And even though I studied every little detail, it never interfered with my ability too enjoy (I was 13 after all). And it still doesn't ruin things for me if things aren't screen-accurate. I think it's 100 times worst with some SW fans.
Here's a little side story: Back in 1979 I remember hearing that there was going to be an interview with Giger in Penthouse magazine. I don't think I knew exactly what Penthouse was at the time and asked my dad to pick me up a copy. It was funny when one day he came home from work and handed me a Manilla envelope with just the pages of the interview and artwork ripped out of the magazine. He told me not to let my mom find out!
Here's the hand sculpt. btw:
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