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No he only has 2 if you count PW, which i personally don't and i'm quite sure a few others would do the same.

And i'm 100% certain if Kojima really made PW as a main story for MGS, A. He would have released it multi platform. B. He would have called it MGS5

It's annoyed me because you came in here and basically called us uneducated when it's you doesn't really know what you're talking about

2 plus the forthcoming GZ, lets dont count MGS5 cause its still a mistery.

In his twitter Kojima told almost on daily basis that PW was a full scale MGS experience, your arguments to denigrate it as a sidestory are wobbly.

I do know what Im talking about, Mgs is my fav game franchise, Ive played them all, I love them all, Ive spent my share of time learning Its story and secrets.

Look I was not who started this little feud, I merely responded in the same tone that was addressed to me, you complain about one word, I've been called worse by the same guys who cant handle their own attitude and obtuse mindset handed back to them, I do apologize to you since youve been respectful towards me and for the sake of that lets call it quits cause its obvious were not changing each other opinions.
 
I still count Solid Snake as having ONE true game that let his personality shine, which is MGS1. In MGS4 he was a shadow of his former self. Ghost Babel developed Snake's character more than MGS4 IMO.

For that, I think Solid Snake needs a new game. Enough with BB already.
 
I still count Solid Snake as having ONE true game that let his personality shine, which is MGS1. In MGS4 he was a shadow of his former self. Ghost Babel developed Snake's character more than MGS4 IMO.

For that, I think Solid Snake needs a new game. Enough with BB already.

Big Boss is so over the hill anymore... so boring to play as. I don't care about his life anymore.
 
i have an extensive bb collection. we need some figs of someone else. glad raiden and liquid are coming. anyone got any ideas on who pak will exhibit after these 2?
 
Big Boss is so over the hill anymore... so boring to play as. I don't care about his life anymore.

Big Boss has really just degenerated into a symbol of Kojima's milking of the franchise at this point in time. The only relevant games after MGS 4 should have been the remakes for MG 1 and 2. But, judging by how far this series has detracted - I guess where's there's money to be made, it will be made (eg. Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, ???).

I would have taken the entire Peace Walker chapter a little more seriously if it weren't for all of the silly retcons in the game. I also hate how Big Boss has now turned into a misguided "good guy", when in fact, it was originally he who wanted to send the world to hell and had to be stopped by Solid Snake.
 
i have an extensive bb collection. we need some figs of someone else. glad raiden and liquid are coming.

Yeah, but to think there are only 2 MGS2 Snake figures so far, Mcfarlane and Medicom. Overdue for another one is a severe understatement.

Are you listening Hot Toys? Give us one with the MGS2 sneaking suit, poncho, Pliskin head, outfit and gear and make it a DX like the Luke Skywalker. That will please a lot of fans!
 
Big Boss has really just degenerated into a symbol of Kojima's milking of the franchise at this point in time. The only relevant games after MGS 4 should have been the remakes for MG 1 and 2. But, judging by how far this series has detracted - I guess where's there's money to be made, it will be made.

I would have take Peace Walker a little more seriously if it weren't for all of the silly retcons in the game. I also hate how Big Boss has now turned into a misguided "good guy", when in fact, it was originally he who wanted to send the world to hell and had to be stopped by Solid Snake.

EXACTLY!

I honestly think that a remake of MG1-2 is in the near future.
 
if pak doesnt do a snake or at least a snake plissken i will be very irate. it should go without saying. like getting raiden. they wouldnt just release solidus. thatd be retarded. i hope they continue not being so.
 
ifpak doesnt do a snake or at least a snake plissken i will be ver irate. it shoud go without saying. like getting raiden. they wouldnt just releaase solidus. thatd be retarded. i hope they continue not being so.

I think there is a very good chance of a MGS2 Snake. If they will do a Liquid Snake I think anything is possible with PAK.
 
The thing is, that Big Boss can't really become "evil". I think it's practically impossible from the way that Kojima has set up the story since MGS 4. Essentially, Big Boss' only crime was fighting against the system of control that was set up by Zero. And Solid Snake is inadvertently the villain, since he was being manipulated by the Patriots to stop Big Boss' plans.

I absolutely hate that twist.
 
The thing is, that Big Boss can't really become "evil" - the impression that we had of him in MGS 1. I think it's practically impossible from the way that Kojima has set up the story since MGS 4. Essentially, Big Boss' only crime was fighting against the system of control that was set up by Zero. And Solid Snake is inadvertently the villain, since he was being manipulated by the Patriots to stop Big Boss' plans.

I absolutely hate that twist.

Big Boss should not of poked his *** into the ending of MGS4 :gah:
 
^I know what you mean. But yeah, in summary:

Big Boss = Good guy
Solid Snake = Pawn that is used by Zero to stop Big Boss

Of course, there are many more layers to both of them, but it essentially boils down to that.
 
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