Michael Jackson dead at 50

[Darth Snoopy]

What did you expect? Spandex and superpowers?

You want heroic, here is a true hero...

Major Richard Winters​

Clearly to be a hero you have to wear a gun I guess.

If that's what you think.

 

[Rock83]

Like I was just explaining to my good buddy somewhere... Michael Jackson, apparently, is a hot topic like religion or politics on this board. Maybe Dave should ban all MJ topics since it seems like a really hard topic for folks to discuss.

I am sure when he said "our" he was speaking on behalf of people who feel this thread has degenerated from its purpose. Not an all inclusive "our", like you seem to have taken it.

Yep that was what i meant,i thought everyone understood that.

 

[FQRizzo]

What did you expect? Spandex and superpowers?

Main Entry: he·ro
Pronunciation: \ˈhir-(ˌ)ō\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural heroes
Etymology: Latin heros, from Greek hērōs
Date: 14th century
1 a: a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descent endowed with great strength or ability b: an illustrious warrior
c: a man admired for his achievements and noble qualities d: one that shows great courage
2 a: the principal male character in a literary or dramatic work b: the central figure in an event, period, or movement
3plural usually heros : submarine 2
4: an object of extreme admiration and devotion : idol

I think it all comes down to what you perceive as heroic. Personally, I don't think throwing money at charities makes you a hero.

 

[Jen]

What did you expect? Spandex and superpowers?

A lot of people are charitable.....I agree that it does not make them heroic.

Definition of heroic: . Having, displaying, or characteristic of the qualities appropriate to a hero; courageous

What's courageous about donating money? I don't mean this as a rub against MJ, I just find it interesting how people use the word hero these days. I know a lot of people who are VERY generous with their money...I definitely wouldn't label them as a hero....but a generous and giving person.

He was larger than life....a person of heroic proportions....but heroic in a courageous sense...that I'm not so sure about.

 

[The Ween]

Please don't take things so personally guys. People are going to dicuss this stuff. Good and bad. Not everyone is going to see eye to eye.

 

[CelticPredator]

Hellboy is my hero.

 

[Kuzeh]

He personally, oversaw and did his best to give a lot of people a better life, gave them hope, with his music, he has saved a lot of people...
You might not hear it in the news, but lots of inner city kids, and troubled teenagers, were literally SAVED by his music...

As for his charities, and all that, he visited lots of people in their deathbeds, and brought them happiness in their last moments... he helped a lot of kids with terminal illnesses... called them, sang to them... sponsored them... throughout the world...
Of course that didn't make the news... or the tabloids...

BTW Jen, I love your new sig...

 

[mfoga]

The innocent don't settle out of court.

The rich do regardless. It cheaper to make your own# then let some random people pick a #.

 

[The Ween]

What's courageous about donating money? I don't mean this as a rub against MJ, I just find it interesting how people use the word hero these days. I know a lot of people who are VERY generous with their money...I definitely wouldn't label them as a hero....but a generous and giving person.

If it was, Sideshow would consider me a hero for all the money I've been contributing to them!

 

[hoodonit00]

Clearly to be a hero you have to wear a gun I guess.

Some do, some don't. A soldier who throws himself on a live grenade to shield the blast from the rest of his squad is a hero. A firefighter who runs into a burning building which may fall at any time to rescue a person is a hero. A train engineer who chooses to stay with the engine while it's speeding toward an approaching train coming the other way instead of trying to possibly escape is a hero. A man who jumps onto subway tracks to help someone they don't know who has fallen is a hero. MJ may have been a great philanthropist but in my book not a hero. Not making light of his charitable donations which are honorable, but when you were worth at one time over a billion dollars you can afford to be charitable.

 

[Kuzeh]

Hellboy is my hero.

I thought it was Michael Bay?...

 

[pixletwin]

I think it all comes down to what you perceive as heroic. Personally, I don't think throwing money at charities makes you a hero.

There was a man named Larry Miller* who donated all sorts of mad money to Primary Children's hospital to help families who couldn't afford to pay hospital bills on their own. At the time I was a student (pre collecting years) and my son was seriously ill.

He donated money to help me pay my kids hospital bills without having to resort to bankruptcy or worse. Not to mention that his money paid for many of the state of the art technologies the hospital used to save my boys life.

Donating money may not make people like that a hero to you, but it is quite different from those lives were directly effected by the money they provided. And truth be known, you have already benefited, I am sure, in some way from such humanitarian assistance.

To each his own I guess.

*Larry Miller was reportedly a total ****** in person though.

 

[Voorhees27]

Hero - 1. a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.

I think he could somewhat qualify as a hero imo.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

I know a lot of people who are VERY generous with their money...I definitely wouldn't label them as a hero....but a generous and giving person.

Agreed. MJ was incredibly charitable and should be commended & remembered for his charity & bringing attention to issues that were important to him.

Please don't take things so personally guys. People are going to dicuss this stuff. Good and bad. Not everyone is going to see eye to eye.

 

[Kuzeh]

BTW people,
I just created a Social Group for MJ fans...where we can have ******-free conversations about THE man!!
PM to get an invitation...

https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/group.php?groupid=52

 

[Rock83]

Maybe Childhood Idol would be more appropriate then.

 

[hoodonit00]

You want heroic, here is a true hero...

Major Richard Winters​

If that's what you think.

Big +1. There is a bridge near Hershey Park name in his honor. As I stated earlier in this thread, Shifty Powers just passed last week. Randy Shughart and Gary Gordon who were asked to be put into battle against 100's of enemy combatants to save the life of Michael Durant in Somalia, knowing they had little chance of surviving. Durant lived they both recieved the MOH postumously.
Ran

 

[pixletwin]

I agree those guys are heroes too.... of a different class. Maybe we should expand our minds to accept more than one definition of hero?

 

[hoodonit00]

A lot of people are charitable.....I agree that it does not make them heroic.

Definition of heroic: . Having, displaying, or characteristic of the qualities appropriate to a hero; courageous

What's courageous about donating money? I don't mean this as a rub against MJ, I just find it interesting how people use the word hero these days. I know a lot of people who are VERY generous with their money...I definitely wouldn't label them as a hero....but a generous and giving person.

He was larger than life....a person of heroic proportions....but heroic in a courageous sense...that I'm not so sure about.

Bless you and thank you.

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

BTW people,
I just created a Social Group for MJ fans...where we can have ******-free conversations about THE man!!
PM to get an invitation...

https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/group.php?groupid=52

so ******-free conversations mean that everyone has to be of the same mindset? Now don't get me wrong I don't agree with a lot that is said in here but having a different opinion about something doesn't make one a ******.