1/6 MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

[rego]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

rubber is rubber. it will never last as long as a hard plastic

 

[Master Wayne]

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The DCD batch leaked too. The oil seeped right through the hard plastic abs just as it did the rubber ones.

 

[haytil]

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That isn't my figure. I'm not claiming anything other than rubber eventually dries out,breaks down, and rots. The Dx02 is kind of a ticking time bomb, and that alone is why i would suggest the 12 over it, as opposed to which one actually looks better because that is subjective.

What you posted isn't typical or indicative of what happens to Hot Toys. What you posted looks like the product of abuse.

Whoever owned that figure probably didn't give a damn about properly caring for their figure - so it's no surprise it ended up like that. It has nothing to do with being "a ticking time bomb."

 

[Jackhepburn]

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What you posted isn't typical or indicative of what happens to Hot Toys. What you posted looks like the product of abuse.

Whoever owned that figure probably didn't give a damn about properly caring for their figure - so it's no surprise it ended up like that. It has nothing to do with being "a ticking time bomb."

Two words.

Rubber, deterioration.

 

[DiFabio]

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Well, that one above was probably posed like a mother ****er. Look at the knees, extreme poses were done. There's also the stand marks. That's actually the pic that made me realize I had the right thinking by not putting my rubber suited figures on stands. Glad I never did.


Mine hasn't leaked, hasn't detoriated (only problem was the plain magnet belt and a slight droplet under the shoulder pad on the bicep pad).


That doesn't mean it won't though. I full expect that thing to experience full blown deterioration. For now though, it's been fine. Still, I'm sure the DX 12 will last a lot longer, well, until those armor panels start to peel away, fall off.

 

[franpincho]

Well, that one above was probably posed like a mother ****er. Look at the knees, extreme poses were done. There's also the stand marks. That's actually the pic that made me realize I had the right thinking by not putting my rubber suited figures on stands. Glad I never did.


Mine hasn't leaked, hasn't detoriated (only problem was the plain magnet belt and a slight droplet under the shoulder pad on the bicep pad).


That doesn't mean it won't though. I full expect that thing to experience full blown deterioration. For now though, it's been fine. Still, I'm sure the DX 12 will last a lot longer, well, until those armor panels start to peel away, fall off.

So, how do you display it then?

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

It just stand em. I don't use the little supporter clip.

 

[The Skull]

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As for stands I use them for uniformity, however I have them all set to the lowest setting as to not get indents on my figures. I noticed that issue when king leo came out and people were posting pics of the dents on the thighs from the stand.

 

[Privyet]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

How does rubber leak

 

[DarkMagic]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

Well, that one above was probably posed like a mother ****er. Look at the knees, extreme poses were done. There's also the stand marks. That's actually the pic that made me realize I had the right thinking by not putting my rubber suited figures on stands. Glad I never did.

Mine hasn't leaked, hasn't detoriated (only problem was the plain magnet belt and a slight droplet under the shoulder pad on the bicep pad).


That doesn't mean it won't though. I full expect that thing to experience full blown deterioration. For now though, it's been fine. Still, I'm sure the DX 12 will last a lot longer, well, until those armor panels start to peel away, fall off.

There's nothing wrong with the stands if you use them properly, which this person clearly didn't. And they make the figures much more stable than just standing them on their own two legs. They're adjustable so there is absolutely no reason to ride them so far up the crotch like that to cause that indentation. It looks like the owner was purposely trying to give it an atomic wedgie. In fact, besides the leaking, a lot of that damage looks like sheer, intentional abuse. Maybe the leaking set him off or something, and he decided to damage the hell out of the figure, I dunno, but that level of damage is way more than is typical for the DX02.

 

[Tyranus7]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

Got my final DX12's part today.. the neck wrap... Bad luck my HT Bruce Wayne head sculpt, got screwed on the nose by the delivery from Miami to Chile ... Still trying to selling it though..

 

[TheFiend]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

Btw this was my personal dx02 that was mib stored in a optimal environment. It is the DCD version. It started leaking a little over a year and a half after i had it. Not bad, but still leaking..

The guys that advised the Dx12 over the 02 were trying to help i believe. It is a much better built figure.

Yeah, that doesn't look leaky at all.

DCD batch definitely DOESN'T leak.

What's different about the heads?



What's different about the gauntlets? I admit that I know much less about the DX12 than I do about the DX02, but my impression was that the DX02 were held as being better? If not, what's better about the DX12 gauntlets?



Not in the manner that the non-DCD batches did. Those were widespread and nearly universal. DCD ab leaks were an isolated case and, this far in, very likely to be caused by outside factors.



The number of DCD abs leaks are so minor as to be statistically insignificant. It's not at all the same situation (or cause) as the non-DCD leaks.



Exactly. You DON'T know how widespread it is, but you decided to comment anyway and spread incorrect information, to a new collector, about a topic you are not very well informed about. That's irresponsible and not helpful.

If you HAD followed the DCD abs issue, as I have since it began, then you'd know that fear-mongering about leaky abs in the DCD batch has very little basis in fact.




Like I said, what you did was irresponsible. It's one thing to be incorrect when in a discussion with other experienced collectors - but if you want to present yourself as an authority to an uninformed, new collector, then you better get your facts right. Don't be upset when people call you out on it.



You're cute. Do you ALWAYS resort to ad-hominem, personal attacks when someone calls you out for being wrong?

It's ok to admit when you're wrong. This isn't a ****-measuring contest.



Most of those were sold off when DX02 was released. With so many different "TDK Suit" options, and with MMS71 being one of the poorest, oldest, and least-desired, you're not going to be seeing many of those in circulation anymore. They've already hit the bargain bins.

Haytil, I really do think you're a nut.

You're doing the same crap youve been railing against. You're making statements like "DCD batch does not leak" Well, it has and it does. Regardless of how widespread it is. I guess you;re the sort of person that if yours didn't leak than no ones should leak. Oh let me guess, and if it does, it's their fault?? I'll let you have the last word because I know you like that sort of thing. I'll ignore you.

 

[DiFabio]

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I don't know what happened but that's all I've seen is hostility in haytil's posts as of late. If you feel that arrogant and other members annoy you, why bother participating?

 

[DarkMagic]

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Yeah, that doesn't look leaky at all.

DCD batch definitely DOESN'T leak.






Haytil, I really do think you're a nut.

You're doing the same crap youve been railing against. You're making statements like "DCD batch does not leak" Well, it has and it does. Regardless of how widespread it is. I guess you;re the sort of person that if yours didn't leak than no ones should leak. Oh let me guess, and if it does, it's their fault?? I'll let you have the last word because I know you like that sort of thing. I'll ignore you.

C'mon. You're way oversimplifying what haytil said on purpose. He NEVER said "DCD batch does not leak" in fact he stated it does. His entire position is that the leaking problem was not as severe/widespread with the DCD batch as it was with the pre-DCD batch....he is NOT saying that the leaking was completely non-existent with DCD.

If you disagree with haytil, it means you believe that the leaking problem was as widespread (or even worse) with the DCD batch as with the pre-DCD batch. If that's what you believe, that's fine, argue that point, but don't put words in his mouth or misrepresent his position to make it extreme ("DCD batch DOESN'T leak") so that it is easier for you to argue against.

What's different about the heads?



What's different about the gauntlets? I admit that I know much less about the DX12 than I do about the DX02, but my impression was that the DX02 were held as being better? If not, what's better about the DX12 gauntlets?



Not in the manner that the non-DCD batches did. Those were widespread and nearly universal. DCD ab leaks were an isolated case and, this far in, very likely to be caused by outside factors.



The number of DCD abs leaks are so minor as to be statistically insignificant. It's not at all the same situation (or cause) as the non-DCD leaks.



Exactly. You DON'T know how widespread it is, but you decided to comment anyway and spread incorrect information, to a new collector, about a topic you are not very well informed about. That's irresponsible and not helpful.

If you HAD followed the DCD abs issue, as I have since it began, then you'd know that fear-mongering about leaky abs in the DCD batch has very little basis in fact.




Like I said, what you did was irresponsible. It's one thing to be incorrect when in a discussion with other experienced collectors - but if you want to present yourself as an authority to an uninformed, new collector, then you better get your facts right. Don't be upset when people call you out on it.



You're cute. Do you ALWAYS resort to ad-hominem, personal attacks when someone calls you out for being wrong?

It's ok to admit when you're wrong. This isn't a ****-measuring contest.



Most of those were sold off when DX02 was released. With so many different "TDK Suit" options, and with MMS71 being one of the poorest, oldest, and least-desired, you're not going to be seeing many of those in circulation anymore. They've already hit the bargain bins.

 

[DiFabio]

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C'mon. You're way oversimplifying what haytil said on purpose. He NEVER said "DCD batch does not leak" in fact he stated it does. His entire position is that the leaking problem was not as severe/widespread with the DCD batch as it was with the pre-DCD batch....he is NOT saying that the leaking was completely non-existent with DCD.

If you disagree with haytil, it means you believe that the leaking problem was as widespread (or even worse) with the DCD batch as with the pre-DCD batch. If that's what you believe, that's fine, argue that point, but don't put words in his mouth or misrepresent his position to make it extreme ("DCD batch DOESN'T leak") so that it is easier for you to argue against.

What about haytil's initial post?

Not if he gets one from the DCDirect release. You don't know what you're talking about. is right.

He seems to think that "outside" factors cause any leaks in the DCD release, he even states as much in later posts (the one you quoted).


Of course Fiend is going to react that way, haytil obnoxiously jumped on him like he's been doing to members with his "facts" and "knowledge" and "judgement", especially when it comes to older figures. He's not exactly a happy camper and it seems like even the slightest thing he may disagree with will set him off.


True, I guess Fiend was in the wrong for posting "dude, your figure is going to leak oil" but is that response really worth trivialized rant after trivialized rant? I don't think so. What does haytil care if another member buys a DX 02 Batman or not? Or does it just pain him to see "misinformation" spread like that? It's not like it's slander. Top_cat2 is going to do whatever the hell he wants and buy what he wants to buy. That's pretty clear. Nobody is going to convince him not to because it "leaks", like Fiend, nor will he pay heed to anyone that says it won't like haytil.


He'll find out for himself, just like we all do. Maybe he gets one with the residue, maybe he doesn't.

 

[R3ddlight]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

the fire rises, just got him today. Best feeling ever.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

the fire rises, just got him today. Best feeling ever.

https://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag129/r3ddlight/d2c5bcb0-1de6-4389-b5b0-2b88ec59eaf5_zps2edabe1b.jpg

Are the abs on yours leaking?

 

[DarkMagic]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

What about haytil's initial post?





He seems to think that "outside" factors cause any leaks in the DCD release, he even states as much in later posts (the one you quoted).


Of course Fiend is going to react that way, haytil obnoxiously jumped on him like he's been doing to members with his "facts" and "knowledge" and "judgement", especially when it comes to older figures. He's not exactly a happy camper and it seems like even the slightest thing he may disagree with will set him off.


True, I guess Fiend was in the wrong for posting "dude, your figure is going to leak oil" but is that response really worth trivialized rant after trivialized rant? I don't think so. What does haytil care if another member buys a DX 02 Batman or not? Or does it just pain him to see "misinformation" spread like that? It's not like it's slander. Top_cat2 is going to do whatever the hell he wants and buy what he wants to buy. That's pretty clear. Nobody is going to convince him not to because it "leaks", like Fiend, nor will he pay heed to anyone that says it won't like haytil.


He'll find out for himself, just like we all do. Maybe he gets one with the residue, maybe he doesn't.

You're right about that post, it basically does say that he won't have a leaking problem if he buys a DCD batch DX02. It's clear from his later posts that he admits that no batch is completely immune though, and he recognizes/believes that the earlier release was way more prone to leaking than the DCD batch was.

As for why haytil (or Fiend, or you, or me, or anyone) cares if another member buys a DX02 or not....Top_cat2 specifically asked about it. Like you said, in the end Top_cat2 is going to buy what he wants, but since he specifically asked...it is helpful for members to try to give him the most accurate information they can on the figure / the differences between the batches etc.

 

[vodoun]

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There is no comparison. I can't fathom how someone can prefer the DX02 suit, unless they just like the fat, awkward, rubbery, inaccurate look.

The world aint Utopia. I can guarantee, when there's another Batman figure, a lot of you will be dissing the DX12 just as the DX02 is going at the moment. I do however find it sad that so many people can never really appreciate something for it's time.

Mine hasn't leaked, hasn't detoriated (only problem was the plain magnet belt and a slight droplet under the shoulder pad on the bicep pad).

Fold tissue flat and place them under the shoulder plates.

That doesn't mean it won't though. I full expect that thing to experience full blown deterioration. For now though, it's been fine. Still, I'm sure the DX 12 will last a lot longer, well, until those armor panels start to peel away, fall off.

All I can say, my Batman Begins figure from 2008 is holding well. Still nice and flexible.

It just stand em. I don't use the little supporter clip.

I also stuffed foam into the ankle pegs.

 

[haytil]

Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics

Thank you, DarkMagic.

Reasonable discourse seems to be beyond TheFiend's faculties. I respond with facts, he responds with insults. Apparently "", uninformed opinions, and generalized straw-man statements make for debate in his mind.

He seems to think that "outside" factors cause any leaks in the DCD release, he even states as much in later posts (the one you quoted).

The majority of DCD figures DO NOT leak. The majority of pre-DCD figures DO leak. This is a fact (not a "fact").

Reasonable and scientific thinking shows shows that this a significant difference and must be caused by something.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge this fact - or anyone who makes blanket, incorrect statements like "Your figure is gonna leak" - needs to be publicly corrected, lest misinformation or confusion continue to spread.

It's really that simple.

In the meantime, ask yourself - why does someone like TheFiend continue to believe and spread the lies that he does?

It's because he genuinely believes it. And the reason he genuinely believes it is because, when he was new, he saw the lies being spread before him and now accepts them as gospel truth - because enough people stayed silent when they should've been correcting the misinformation, and he had no reason to doubt the words he read.

So his behavior was informed by the very problem that he himself now perpetuates.

As for why haytil (or Fiend, or you, or me, or anyone) cares if another member buys a DX02 or not....Top_cat2 specifically asked about it. Like you said, in the end Top_cat2 is going to buy what he wants, but since he specifically asked...it is helpful for members to try to give him the most accurate information they can on the figure / the differences between the batches etc.

Exactly. This is why I care. This forum has been and can be a great resources for new collectors. I learned a lot when I joined, and I hope to see others continue to do so as well, so they can make informed choices.

As members of the community, we have a responsibility to be helpful, not to post cute emoticons accompanying bull**** statements, whose inaccuracy results in new members throwing hundreds of dollars down the drain.