My Custom 1/6th Heath Jokers - A few new costume piccy doo daas

[uscmhicks]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Why are people arguing?

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Why aren't YOU arguing?!? JOIN DA PARDEE!

 

[uscmhicks]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

This head is waaaay to cheap.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

This head is waaaay to cheap.

 

[plasmid303]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Why aren't YOU arguing?!? JOIN DA PARDEE!

I don't wanna take sides. It's just a shame though, no more pics, and all this talk. blah blah.

How many different versions of the Joker head has Adam done?

 

[neo]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Can't wait to see mines!

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

I know man, I was just kidding.

3 that I know of:

1. The one sold on eBay, my one and lforignos' are all very similar with minor changes
2. blakus' new and improved one which is a wholly new sculpt if I am not mistaken
3. The laughing one



Which one are you getting neo?

 

[Devil_666]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

well if you wanna start insulting people and calling them idiots....

the point you made about gum and soda and similar items is absolute garbage. maybe you need to read the responses again. the point was you can't compare one artist's head with another's and say one has a massive markup like you can with gum or soda. it doesn't work like that with art. either you get that or you don't understand what art is. it's like saying picassos that go for millions are overpriced, coz the guy that lives next door to you does similar kinds of paintings and only charges a couple hundred bucks. technically, your comparison doesn't apply. unless you weren't making that comparison at all, in which case i missed the point of that post entirely coz that's what it came across as.

Ugh.. Jesus Christ riding on a dinosaur with rockets. Are you serious!? Are you that dense that you can't get over the gum and soda comment? Ok let's try it another why, I'll dumb it down for you. Are all cars priced the same? No right? The price depends on the make and model, luxary, extras, etc. Right? So is a Cadillac Escalade overpriced? No. Because it's a top of the line SUV. But I guarantee if you saw one Escalade and it was being sold for $300,000 you'd say "WTF!? That's WAYYYY overpriced". And just because there's people out there willing to spend that to have it doesn't make the price justified and NOT overpriced. Is that hard to understand!? And if you wanna deal with art, ALL art has a fair market value. ALL art that's sold is assessed and has a starting price assigned to it when it's for sale. Is that price randomly pulled out of the artists *** on a whim? Hell NO! Can an artist just randomly ask for whatever price THEY want? Sure. But expect criticism and people pointing out how it's overpriced. When art is for sale, the final price is never ANYWHERE near the price it originally started at. You're confusing the final sale price with the starting price. Two different things. ALL artwork/artists are compared when a value is attached to art too. That's why certain pieces are priced higher than others (and even works from the same artists are priced differently) so I don't have the slightest clue what you're babbling on about. And the funny thing is, your little analogy about Picasso and some unknown actually sums this up: Known 1/6 artists (either from an online community with years of rep or professionals like Yuli working for big companies) would be akin to Picasso. imaresqd1 would be akin to the unknown next door neighbor. So how come imaresqd1 charges 3x the amount for a single head sculpt that HT charges for an ENTIRE figure?

my problem is not with the price of this head. it's not about people being "real" either. it's about people who go from thread to thread diminishing the work of others, their purchases or their hard work. you seem adamant that everyone admit that this head is overpriced. how is that any different from people you say claim to want everyone to like what they buy? put yourself in their position. you come into a thread where people clearly like this head, they like blakus' custom. and you and others have insisted that this head is ridiculously overpriced. is there any need to continue? you've said what you need to but you don't let it alone. it seems the majority of threads here are now more about posting negativity and what you don't like about something than what you do. it's fine, you have every right to. but wouldn't it be better to go into a thread every now and then and not have someone biching and belittling what others do, and the way they do business, and the things they buy? forget "real". how about a little courtesy and respect? we're dealing with opinions here. those in support of this not being overpriced have made their statements. those that think this head is overpriced have tried to hammer the point home. as if their opinion is fact.

the worst thing for me is, this isn't a manufactured product. i can understand moaning and complaints about something a big company is about to release. but to a customiser? someone in your own 1/6 community? it seems to me you're only trying to make them feel regret and guilt about their purchase. and that sucks.

Seriously grow the F' up man. This is a forum for discussion and different view points and ideas. If that's too scary for you and it upsets you and makes you sad then hop off the internet, move to a remote and solitary location and sit there by yourself. Then you won't have to deal with criticism, negativity, opposing views and people in general.

How the hell could I make people feel regret for something they purchased!? Are you implying all these people are that susceptible to outside influence that they would honestly care about some strangers opinion!? REALLY? I've already stated numerous times
imaresqd1's Joker sculpts are THEE best Joker heads around. I've congratulated everyone who's gotten one and posted pics and I've even complemented imaresqd1 on his work. That doesn't change the fact that his Joker head sculpts are overpriced.

 

[meth head]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Cant wait to see mine either! :chew

 

[Devil_666]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

If someone is going around saying these are selling for $700, they're flat out misinformed. If someone says they paid that much for the sculpt, either they're lying and trying to start trouble or they're an ***** with too much money.

The price is nowhere near that, it's closer to $100 than it is to $700. I don't know where the hell that figure even came from.

If those headsculpts are selling for closer to $100 please disregard everything I've posted in this thread about these head sculpts being over priced.

 

[meth head]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

If those headsculpts are selling for closer to $100 please disregard everything I've posted in this thread about these head sculpts being over priced.

 

[cr0w]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Mathematically, yes, it's closer to $100 than it is to $700. Hell, it's closer to $1 than it is to $700.

I don't know where the $700 figure came from, unless that's what it ended up going for on Ebay. That's just astronomical.

 

[cr0w]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

I think now that we've established that the rumored price point floating around is inaccurate, we can get off the overpriced arguments that are going round and round with no end in sight. At least, I hope so.

 

[uscmhicks]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Ugh.. Jesus Christ riding on a dinosaur with rockets..

 

[Devil_666]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Mathematically, yes, it's closer to $100 than it is to $700. Hell, it's closer to $1 than it is to $700.

I don't know where the $700 figure came from, unless that's what it ended up going for on Ebay. That's just astronomical.

So would you agree if they WERE selling for that much that they would be grossly overpriced? Because that's were I was coming from.

Individually created pieces of art and mass manufactured items, like gum, soda or cars are not the same thing. You can not compare the pricing structure in any way, shape or form. That argument is completely invalid, no matter how you're trying to make it.

Ugh.. you had to bring that up, right?

 

[eczamurai]

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IF indeed it is closer to 100$ than it is to 700$ than I would say that's a really good price, however, with everyone not willing to you know.. NAME the actual price, I assumed the 700$ talk was true..

I will apoligies to Lord Vader, and take full responsibility.

 

[vodoun]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

So then why was $100 such a big FBI secrecy and aliens will come and get you if you revealed the price?...

Or was it a cult that was trying to develop so some collectors could have this immense unique limited edition?... but we don't want you to have it...

 

[eczamurai]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

that'll forever be clouded in mystery, meanwhile, Lord Vader is using the force choke because of my disturbing lack of faith

 

[cr0w]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Because the price isn't $100...it's closer to $100 than it is to the aforementioned $700. Mathematically. I'm being technical. It's not $100.

I'm assuming the reason the price is available only to people who are serious about commissioning it is because unless it's offered at prices similar to what people who do other, comparatively mass-produced custom products, some people will still complain about it being overpriced because they're not willing to pay more than what other customizers charge for their products. And they don't think that it should be more simply because of what other customizers charge for their own work. The whole, "if it isn't what I think it should be, it's wrong!" opinion.

Then again, I'm only assuming based on the fact that I was only told the price when I asked in private. I don't know the personal reasoning behind it, or if there is any.

And yes, to me $700 is too much for a headsculpt, or even a single toy. Hell, I think the Tumbler was overpriced and wouldn't go near it. But then again, if it's one of a kind and someone's willing to pay for it, more power to them. If I had the ability to get something that I really wanted and I knew that's the only way I could obtain it, I would take the opportunity.

 

[eighthsamurai]

Re: My Custom 1/6th Heath Joker nearing completion, pic heavy

Are you that dense that you can't get over the gum and soda comment?

frustrated much? i didn't resort to name calling, you did. i guess there's no reasoning reasonably with some people. maybe i should grow up. god forbid i try and resort to your better nature. i don't agree with your whole placing a value on art viewpoint. you don't agree with mine. the difference is, you got all pissy about it and got personal. as for dense, i'm willing to bet money i've done more great things with this mind of mine than you have with yours. i'll leave it at that.