NECA: Alien Movie Franchise Figures

[a-dev]

We obviously have two very different understandings of what constitutes a "natural pose."

I think what P. is seeing is that there isn't very much movement possible with the ankles/foot and, if there was, you would have utilised it since you've proven yourself probably better than anyone at posing these figures. I wouldn't be dissatisfied with that Vasquez pose though.

 

[Jester]

I think what P. is seeing is that there isn't very much movement possible with the ankles/foot and, if there was, you would have utilised it since you've proven yourself probably better than anyone at posing these figures. I wouldn't be dissatisfied with that Vasquez pose though.

Well, thanks for the compliment, a-dev. As far as ankles go, yeah, Vasquez's don't have quite the same range of motion as the other Marines to date, but I didn't find that at all problematic when posing her, since, to the best of my recollection, Goldstein and Rolston generally exhibited a very solid, grounded posture on-screen, probably due to the weight of their weapons and accompanying rigging, and that's well within the range of the figure to replicate, as I tried to show.

 

[Unclechopchop]

I think it's meant to be an homage to this:

We obviously have two very different understandings of what constitutes a "natural pose."

It's actually suppose to be "predator vision". At least that's what I think the box said.

 

[BugStomper]

If they had the tech to make it so back then it would of looks so creepily cool, masses of them coming after them as they make their escape.

I’ve always loved the idea of swarming facehuggers. For it to have made any kind of sense I think they would have needed more than Ripley and Newt for a mass hatching. A squad or two of Marines in a hive that is burning down around them I could see doing it. A few marines caught in the fleeing huggers could look great.

I wasn’t sure what to do with the ancient predator so I displayed him struggling against a few facehuggers. Logic be damned!

 

[Jester]

I’ve always loved the idea of swarming facehuggers. For it to have made any kind of sense I think they would have needed more than Ripley and Newt for a mass hatching. A squad or two of Marines in a hive that is burning down around them I could see doing it. A few marines caught in the fleeing huggers could look great.

That doesn't make any sense.

 

[BugStomper]

If the commotion caused by multiple squads being in the hive (going off of Aliens they aren’t exactly calm under pressure.) didn’t trigger a lot of eggs the rising temperature might do it. The creatures discomfort around fire is one thing that does seem consistent. It would make more sense for the huggers that are ready to pop hatching instead of burning to death. They’ve got some idea of the world around them be it motion or contact. A change in temperature inside the egg could trigger a hatching or reducing it could explain why they go dormant.
Having aliens remove the eggs from the hive always seemed strange to me. We’ve seen that the huggers are mobile and can operate outside the hive in movies and games so why wouldn’t all adults focus they’re efforts on protecting the current queen?

Anyway I doubt they wouldn’t take the time to explain that in movie “They’re space bugs. Their home is on fire! They don’t want to die in a fire…” but a bunch of huggers flooding a tunnel would look cool in all the chaos. What about the baby aliens inside the marine!? Movies...

 

[Jester]

If the commotion caused by multiple squads being in the hive (going off of Aliens they aren’t exactly calm under pressure.) didn’t trigger a lot of eggs the rising temperature might do it. The creatures discomfort around fire is one thing that does seem consistent. It would make more sense for the huggers that are ready to pop hatching instead of burning to death.

It wouldn't make sense for them to attack potential hosts under such circumstances, because then they'd become immobile (if successful) and quickly burn to death.

Having aliens remove the eggs from the hive always seemed strange to me. We’ve seen that the huggers are mobile and can operate outside the hive in movies and games so why wouldn’t all adults focus they’re efforts on protecting the current queen?

Because facehuggers are actually kind of pathetic if their prey isn't already immobilized? In any event, standard operating procedure appears to be for the warriors/drones to carry potential hosts back to the hive for infestation, so facehuggers operating alone and independently, video game depictions to the contrary notwithstanding, seems very much to be a tactic of last resort.

Anyway I doubt they wouldn’t take the time to explain that in movie “They’re space bugs. Their home is on fire! They don’t want to die in a fire…” but a bunch of huggers flooding a tunnel would look cool in all the chaos. What about the baby aliens inside the marine!?

Don't get me started...

 

[BugStomper]

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said and actually agree that independent facehuggers would be a last resort under extreme circumstances. That’s why I would go with a total hive collapse like the fire plus the adults under attack. I wouldn’t want to change the typical workings of the hive until that point.
I couldn’t see any of this happening in Aliens because though Ripley was a threat she alone couldn’t wipe out the entire nest.

As for the hosts/huggers that’s why I put “Movies..” and a shrug. It wouldn’t make sense for a creature that was fleeing death to kill itself anyway. People would either enjoy the sequence for looking good or read into it.

 

[Jester]

I couldn’t see any of this happening in Aliens because though Ripley was a threat she alone couldn’t wipe out the entire nest.

I think by that point the Marines + sentry guns had killed the majority of the adult drones/warriors/whatever.

 

[P.]

We obviously have two very different understandings of what constitutes a "natural pose."

unlikely, as you went with the same pose i did - just stopped where the figure's articualtion allows. as a-dev said, utilising in full what the figure allows. it still allows not enough, which is strange. i wanted to know if i don't understand some of legs articulation - nope it's simply strangely limited for that particular soldier.

 

[Jester]

unlikely, as you went with the same pose i did - just stopped where the figure's articualtion allows.

If you went with the same pose, then we do indeed have very different definitions, because I think that pose looks perfectly natural for the character.

 

[P.]

just take something heavy and long, hold it like that gun and get the most comfortable pose. then try to replicate it on a figure. it doesn't work, because boots cannot take proper position. that's my definition
though i know that you will just repeat the same thing until another side is bored and goes away, as it was in a talk about A:CM game.

 

[a-dev]

I'm guessing that in a position where the legs are spread you're saying that the feet should not be in perfect line with the lower leg as if she were standing up completely straight? There should be an angle on them which the articulation just doesn't seem to permit? Nevertheless I think it's pretty minimal, the figure gets away with it.

 

[jye4ever]

 

[P.]

Flexible Bodies. no articulation needed.

all my aliens suffer from bent shins. though i use Jester's method and pretend it's how it should be.

I'm guessing that in a position where the legs are spread you're saying that the feet should not be in perfect line with the lower leg as if she were standing up completely straight? There should be an angle on them which the articulation just doesn't seem to permit? Nevertheless I think it's pretty minimal, the figure gets away with it.

yes something like that. to write it myself i'd have to use a dictionary for every second word, and i'm lazy
i'll deal with it by using "action stands" which will allow those nice light Neca figures not to use their feet for standing - and thus achieve better poses. bendy aliens legs and non-existing friction in their knee joints demanded it, but Vasquez will be able to use it as well.

 

[Jester]

just take something heavy and long, hold it like that gun and get the most comfortable pose. then try to replicate it on a figure. it doesn't work, because boots cannot take proper position. that's my definition
though i know that you will just repeat the same thing until another side is bored and goes away, as it was in a talk about A:CM game.

I never get bored of being right.

 

[jye4ever]

I just sent these pics along with my Iron Man leg pic to their headquarters.

 

[BugStomper]

I just sent these pics along with my Iron Man leg pic to their headquarters.

That sucks man. The leg on mine looks the same and happened over time. The plastic they use just doesn’t hold up, either the figure is too heavy and it warps or it warps in package because of twisty ties/poor fit. The twist ties and legs packaged awkwardly mainly plagued the smaller scale aliens.

 

[guyver1]

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[a-dev]

So I can safely pass on the 1:4 Aliens until they fix this warping issue?