NECA: Alien Movie Franchise Figures

[P.]

so... ALIENS sucked!

so glad God Anderson made his AVP.

I have a few custom Colonial Marines, I've posted some on the AVPG forum but I've started reworking a lot of them.
These are the only 3 that have gone untouched, I'll post pictures of the other's I've done when I take new ones

combo breaker.

 

[Staps1138]

I was lucky enough to pick up the SDCC cloaked Scar last Friday during the warehouse find sale Neca had and the best I've got shipping wise is a label creation on 11/9 for the expedited shipping. Is this just my bad luck or have others who bought stuff last Friday still not got their item(s) shipped yet?

 

[Jester]

Anyone else hope we get a marine or another human reveal for the latest facehugger friday on twitter ? It would be fitting to go along with the accessory pack revealed a few weeks ago and also a break from the constant xenos.

Yes.

One thing that bothered me about Ripley's role in Aliens is how she took charge and the Marines were left looking like if she wasn't there they wouldn't have a clue what to do. They should have balanced it out a little more imo and made Hicks look more like a take charge guy. I mean Ripley was basically running the surviving Marines once they got back to the Op center and you would think Colonial Marines who were trained to deal with these situations would immediately take charge instead of deferring to a civilian. I appreciate the strong female lead but I just think Cameron took it a little far.

Heh, I hate "strong female characters" and I don't think Aliens was all that egregious in terms of Ripley's (sort-of) taking charge after Gorman was knocked out.

I just don't get why P. thinks the Marines were "disastrously stupid" and "super-lame...freaks," though. The only really bad showing they have is during the hive ambush, and they can't really be held responsible for an inexperienced junior officer flaking out on the one hand and some impossibly bad luck on the other.

The thing I hate about ALIENS is that they made the alien species "shoot em ups".

Well that just sucks for you, then, because they were designed that way from the beginning.

That's why I feel that ALIEN 3 (director cut) is the real sequel to ALIEN.

Alien 3 is a remake of Alien, not a proper sequel in any sense.

I have a few custom Colonial Marines, I've posted some on the AVPG forum but I've started reworking a lot of them.
These are the only 3 that have gone untouched, I'll post pictures of the other's I've done when I take new ones

Nifty. Is that Perseus on the left?

 

[Joda]

I was lucky enough to pick up the SDCC cloaked Scar last Friday during the warehouse find sale Neca had and the best I've got shipping wise is a label creation on 11/9 for the expedited shipping. Is this just my bad luck or have others who bought stuff last Friday still not got their item(s) shipped yet?

It's not bad luck. It's just NECA's shipping. It's very inconsistent in regards to speed. (That, and sometimes the Postal Service's website doesn't update tracking frequently.) I'm still waiting on mine as well.

 

[Yahzee]

Well that just sucks for you, then, because they were designed that way from the beginning.

Alien 3 is a remake of Alien, not a proper sequel in any sense.

...are you serious?

 

[Bo Shrek]

Aliens is one of the best sequels to any movie hands down. Unfortunately because of Aliens and aside from ALIEN 3 the species was used in the direction of threat of outbreaks and pest. Later movies storyline simply used the blueprint of "their contained and now they are out"

 

[a-dev]

People lament the loss of the Alien as an invincible organism in the second movie but the thing is if any living thing gets hit by a big ****ing machine gun it is going to die.

The plot of Aliens plausibly introduced soldiers into the equation. Ergo there were going to be guns and ergo Aliens were going to be killed. Cameron compensated for this factor by 2 means: multiple Aliens and by introducing a new singular ''invincible'' creature - the Queen.

 

[Jester]

...are you serious?

I'm always serious.

People lament the loss of the Alien as an invincible organism in the second movie but the thing is if any living thing gets hit by a big ****ing machine gun it is going to die.

Indeed. The whole reason the xenomorphs have acid blood in the first place is that Dan O'Bannon hated the idea of an invincible, bullet-proof monster, but also needed a way to maintain tension by giving the crew of the Nostromo a plausible reason for not just immediately gunning down the big bug and having done with it.

 

[P.]

I just don't get why P. thinks the Marines were "disastrously stupid" and "super-lame...freaks," though.

because they could be taken out by a modern squad in five minutes. guess the United States military finally destroyed every other military in the world in future and became lazy and lame.

 

[jye4ever]

Didn't Cameron already explain why he made the marines fall apart the way they did.

He was mocking the military industrial complex by showing how a mothers love could overcome odds better than a squad of soldiers could while also proving that a single person can successfully rise above the establishment.

He dismantled the establishment while building up Ripley.

 

[memyselfi]

because they could be taken out by a modern squad in five minutes. guess the United States military finally destroyed every other military in the world in future and became lazy and lame.

CQB training is not regimented in future.

2 fire teams, 1 incursion point, machine gunner not taking different positions providing OLFF. one magazine per rifle.

 

[Jester]

because they could be taken out by a modern squad in five minutes.

How so?

Didn't Cameron already explain why he made the marines fall apart the way they did.

He was mocking the military industrial complex by showing how a mothers love could overcome odds better than a squad of soldiers could while also proving that a single person can successfully rise above the establishment.

He dismantled the establishment while building up Ripley.

Cameron's commentary on the Marines was that they were supposed to be to the xenomorphs as U.S. troops in Vietnam were to the Vietcong, which I suppose makes a certain amount of sense, if you take Gorman's ordering pulse-rifles unloaded inside the hive as a sort of stretched metaphor for the self-defeating rules of engagement that American forces were "disarmed" by in Vietnam. I'm not sure that that's quite what Cameron had in mind, but nonetheless, the Marines still manage to slaughter virtually all of the xenomorphs in the end despite being undermanned and low on ammunition.

 

[Jace Madan]

Yeah, I didn't have a problem at all with the way the Marines acted in "Aliens". I don't think they were lazy or lame, just over-confident and they underestimated the Aliens. There are lines throughout the film before the first encounter in the hive of them treating this as just another alien life-form infestation to take care of, and them not taking Ripley and her description of the extreme danger of the Xenomorphs seriously

"She's supposed to be some kinda consultant. Apparently she saw an alien once."

"Whoopee-****'-do. Hey, I'm impressed."

They seem like they had seen some action, and probably couldn't really even realize or believe the unknowable and massive threat of the Xenos they had to kill, with the only info they had to go by is the testimony of a traumatized spaceship crew member.

"It's a bug hunt."

"Look, man. I only need to know one thing: where they are."

They have top-of the line military weaponry and gear (including machine guns that can literally aim themselves) and have handled situations like this before, coupled with the fact that they seem to be a bit lax in discipline. (The armor customization, talk-back to superior officers) All of this shows a group of individuals that feels like they are invincible and there isn't anything they can't handle.


"Check it out! Independently targeting particle beam phalanx. Vwap! Fry half a city with this puppy. We got tactical smart missiles, phased plasma pulse rifles, RPGs, we got sonic electronic ball breakers! We got nukes, we got knives, sharp sticks..."

I can see why they completely fell apart in the hive encounter after Gorman freezes and Apone gets taken out. They are thrown into a combat scenario where they are mostly disarmed, can't see or have difficulty tracking an enemy like they (or anybody except Ripley) have never encountered before.

"What do you mean *they* cut the power? How could they cut the power, man? They're animals!"

 

[P.]

How so?

like this:

Cameron explained this, Cameron explained that blahblahblah

Cameron simply didn't try to show a military operation, and he probably didn't know what one looks like or thought his viewers don't know that, thus the A2 super lame marines.

 

[jye4ever]

But I think he was shooting for metaphors or else why not just send a huge marine invading force, and for the most part I think he suceeded with those metaphors.

Besides, had the controlling establishment cared about human life to begin with instead of just greed and power they would've respected and taken Ripley serious right from the beginning but instead their overconfidence got them killed.

Then you factor in that they already knew they had something special in their hands that could be weaponized and went after it without respecting what it was capable of it makes Ripley's heroics even more profound.

Maybe new Aliens 3 will give you the huge and competent military invading force you're craving.

 

[popcorn]

Oh, absolutely!
I'm the biggest fan of Kyle's work, and this is without a doubt the best alien out there.
I still wish NECA would do these in 1/6 as well. I guess I'll never lose hope...

I agree!! Just got the 1/4 Translucent closed mouth version. NECA listened when it was suggested to tweak the dome shape/sculpt from the 2008 version. They gave us what we wanted. I also have the old version which is why I opted for the concept version. Made it an easy double dip!

 

[Jester]

Yeah, I didn't have a problem at all with the way the Marines acted in "Aliens". I don't think they were lazy or lame, just over-confident and they underestimated the Aliens. There are lines throughout the film before the first encounter in the hive of them treating this as just another alien life-form infestation to take care of, and them not taking Ripley and her description of the extreme danger of the Xenomorphs seriously.

I don't think they were even overconfident, at least not when it mattered. After finding the colony deserted, seeing the acid damage, the secreted resin in the atmospheric processor, and "Mary," they were taking the whole thing damn seriously, and probably would have withdrawn in good order with minimal loss if not for Gorman freaking out and trying to micromanage anything (and even then, his orders to retreat while laying down suppressing fire with the flamethrowers were basically sensible) and Dietrich inadvertently killing Frost and Crowe.

like this:

The U.S. military has TARDISes now?

Cameron simply didn't try to show a military operation, and he probably didn't know what one looks like or thought his viewers don't know that, thus the A2 super lame marines.

There's nothing "super lame" about the Colonial Marines.

But I think he was shooting for metaphors or else why not just send a huge marine invading force, and for the most part I think he suceeded with those metaphors.

There was no huge Marine force because only Burke gave any credence to Ripley's story.

Besides, had the controlling establishment cared about human life to begin with instead of just greed and power they would've respected and taken Ripley serious right from the beginning but instead their overconfidence got them killed.

Those are two different issues. It's very pointedly driven home that the movers and shakers of the corporate future have little regard for the individual, yes (hence "there goes our salvage rights" when the junkers find Ripley is still alive and in stasis at the beginning), but again, the Marines themselves show no signs of overconfidence when they're actually on the ground.

Then you factor in that they already knew they had something special in their hands that could be weaponized and went after it without respecting what it was capable of it makes Ripley's heroics even more profound.

I don't think anyone in Weyland-Yutani at the time the Sulaco was deployed had any idea that there really were these exotic, acid-blooded alien bugs on Acheron. Even Burke, who seems to have precipitated the whole affair by sending the Jordens to check out the derelict out of curiosity rather than certainty of potential profit, after hearing Ripley's story.

Maybe new Aliens 3 will give you the huge and competent military invading force you're craving.

As long as it non-canons Alien 3 and Resurrection, I'll be happy.

 

[Jester]

ToyArk has pictures of the Mantis and Queen Facehugger in their clamshells. The Mantis is entirely green and the Facehuggers are a combination of off-white and colourless translucent plastic, so I don't think anyone should be worrying about the Gorilla's hot pink shoulder.

 

[P.]

Jester
you're like Butters with HT or Underworld54 with Star Ace Selene.
a fan in complete denial of any issues with your fanbase

 

[Jester]

Jester
you're like Butters with HT or Underworld54 with Star Ace Selene.
a fan in complete denial of any issues with your fanbase

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.