Neill Blomkamp's ALIEN is official!
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You said it. Before Gone Girl, I remembered her best from Doom.
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I don't know, I kind of liked the idea of when Ripley and co finally got back to Gateway some 40 years later the Aliens had already got there before them. All those corporate execs that were still alive who mocked Ripley would be getting their just desserts.
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Michael Biehn Contacted About Alien 5 - AvPGalaxy
^yes to this
Alien 5 Will Not Discard The Last Two Movies, Get The Details - CINEMABLEND
^wtf to this
There is no non-stupid way that this new film can keep Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection in the same continuity.
Hicks clone - stupid idea. ''He's just a grunt'' - why would he be cloned? Why would the clone have acid burns?
''Inbetween-quel'' - stupid idea. It would require CGI de-ageing for the entire film and would look terrible most likely. And it would somehow have to set up the exact circumstances that lead into Alien 3.
Personally I hope what Blomkamp was saying is that we're free to keep them as our Alien canon if we wish and disregard his one. Or accept both as diverging canons. Watch one sequence or the other depending on our mood.
^yes to this
Alien 5 Will Not Discard The Last Two Movies, Get The Details - CINEMABLEND
^wtf to this
There is no non-stupid way that this new film can keep Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection in the same continuity.
Hicks clone - stupid idea. ''He's just a grunt'' - why would he be cloned? Why would the clone have acid burns?
''Inbetween-quel'' - stupid idea. It would require CGI de-ageing for the entire film and would look terrible most likely. And it would somehow have to set up the exact circumstances that lead into Alien 3.
Personally I hope what Blomkamp was saying is that we're free to keep them as our Alien canon if we wish and disregard his one. Or accept both as diverging canons. Watch one sequence or the other depending on our mood.
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What?
So... yeah I think you are right, diverging canons...
Embrace the multiverse
So... yeah I think you are right, diverging canons...
Embrace the multiverse
Awesome news about Biehn. 
I've got to imagine that that was all that he was saying. We have that live video interview where he with his own mouth said point blank that he wants the movies to go ALIEN, then ALIENS, then his movie. If he is saying that he won't "undo" Alien 3 or A:Res I bet he's just throwing a bone to fans of those films. Basically saying that ALIENS 2 won't open with Ripley waking from a nightmare and saying "oh thank God that prison outpost and cloning nonsense was a dream." Because something like that would be "undoing" the films. I'm thinking he just means that ALIENS 2 will pick up 30 years after ALIENS and fans can pick whichever version of the series they want, with neither series undoing the existence of the other one.
I've got to imagine that that was all that he was saying. We have that live video interview where he with his own mouth said point blank that he wants the movies to go ALIEN, then ALIENS, then his movie. If he is saying that he won't "undo" Alien 3 or A:Res I bet he's just throwing a bone to fans of those films. Basically saying that ALIENS 2 won't open with Ripley waking from a nightmare and saying "oh thank God that prison outpost and cloning nonsense was a dream." Because something like that would be "undoing" the films. I'm thinking he just means that ALIENS 2 will pick up 30 years after ALIENS and fans can pick whichever version of the series they want, with neither series undoing the existence of the other one.
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[h=1]NOTES ON WATCHING "ALIENS" FOR THE FIRST TIME AGAIN, WITH A BUNCH OF KIDS[/h]by Matt Zoller Seitz
March 1, 2015 | 190Print Page
For his 11th birthday, my son asked if he could have a slumber party. He invited seven other fifth-grade boys. They played video games for a couple of hours, ate pizza, then said they wanted to watch a movie. They'd seen every comic book movie multiple times. Seen all the Indiana Jones films. Star Wars. Anything with a hobbit in it. The usual 11-year old boy options, circa 2015, weren't going to work.
So I suggested "Aliens," thinking, "Well, it's exciting, and even if they haven't see the first one, the movie tells the story well enough that you won't be confused about who Ripley is and what's at stake for her."
They agreed (some of them had seen the first one anyway, and nearly all had seen at least one film with a xenomorph in it) and so we watched it together. And as we watched, I realized again that while unfortunately you can't see a great movie again for the first time, the next-best thing is to show it to people who've never seen it.
My first time with James Cameron's sci-fi war movie was a great filmgoing experience. I saw "Aliens" at the NorthPark 1 and 2 theater at NorthPark Mall in my hometown of Dallas, with a high school classmate who was, at that time, my regular action movie-watching buddy: Gabe Michaels. We drove to NorthPark to catch the 11 a.m. show on opening day and got in line a couple of hours early. We'd already drunk a bit of soda beforehand and I think we might have downed some more while standing in line. When we got into the theater, they seated us immediately and there was only one preview, for "The Fly," and then wham, they started the movie. Neither Gabe nor I nor anyone else who'd been standing in that line wanted to get up from our seats and answer nature's call, even though we all pretty desperately had to; there was a lot of muttering and shifting in seats, quite a few "grin and bear it" expressions.
If you've seen the film, you know there are no aliens to speak of for the first hour, then suddenly there are aliens all over the place, coming out of the walls and ceiling, drooling and shrieking and dragging Marines off into the darkness to be cocooned. It's one of the greatest releases of built-up tension in action film history. Throughout this sequence the audience was enthralled, screaming as the xenomorphs attacked, cheering as Ripley took control of the all-terrain vehicle to rescue the imperiled Colonial Marines. Then when the ATV crashed through the wall, the music stopped, and Hicks told her she'd blown the trans-axle and need to "ease down, Ripley, ease down," everyone collectively seemed to realize they were being given a breather, so at that point Gabe and I and probably a fifth of the audience rose from our seats and headed for the bathrooms: fast-walking, some running.
Guys at the urinals were peeing as fast as they could because they didn't want to miss another minute of "Aliens." You'd have thought somebody was timing them. Like this was the Olympic qualifying round for the bladder evacuation team. But they weren't going fast enough to suit a guy standing near the front door of men's room. He yelled, "*********! All of you, piss faster!"
And that's when I knew "Aliens" was going to be a hit.
Anyway, the slumber party: all kids seemed to agree that "Aliens" was a good suggestion because even though it had aliens in it, it wasn't just trying to scare you, like the first "Alien." "It's basically an action movie, that's what I've heard," one of my son's friends said. Another seemed just a little bit scared, maybe, and kept suggesting other viewing options, including "Guardians of the Galaxy," "Dr. Who," and (for some reason) "Saturday Night Live."
We watched "Aliens" anyway. It went over well. The biggest challenge was dissuading kids from trying to predict every single thing that was going to happen. This is a generation of talkers. They have to comment on everything. No thought can go unexpressed. Maybe this was true when I was a kid as well (I honestly don't remember), but rather than endlessly correct them I decided to just roll with it, exercising my slumber party guardian veto power during scenes that I felt pretty sure would enthrall them if they would just shut up for five minutes (I was rarely proved wrong in my guesses). But it was a sharp crowd, and for the most part the movie went over quite well, for an analog-era science fiction spectacular that's turning 30 next year.
One boy said that Ripley in her hyper sleep chamber looked like Sleeping Beauty. As this was an intentional reference on writer-director James Cameron's part (there's a Snow White reference an hour later) this seemed like a promising note on which to begin the screening. "I like the way this looks," one said. "It's futuristic but it's old school. It's almost steampunk." "This is like Team Fortress 2," another remarked. "Dude, shut up, this was made like 20 years before Team Fortress 2," said the kid next to him. "This is, like, every science fiction movie ever made," another said, as Ripley operated the power loader for the first time.
"This movie has so many cliches in it," a boy said when Colonial Marines disembarked the drop ship and made their way through rainy darkness to enter the alien-infested colony. My son told him, "This movie was made in 1986. It invented all the cliches." Another of his friends was impressed by the "personal data transmitters" implanted in the colonists—impressed that someone had thought of that back in 1986.
The first big jump of the night was the face hugger in the tank trying to "kiss" the evil yuppie Burke. All eight kids flipped out. One screamed. The second big jump of the night was the "please kill me" woman. Half the boys watched her through the cracks between their fingers.
They liked Ripley, Hicks, Frost, Apone, Bishop the android, and even Hudson, whose defeatism irritated them so much that I think they would've hated him if he weren't so funny. "Somebody shoot that guy," one said. Frost insisting that "it doesn't matter" when the "********" is Arcturian confused a couple of kids. "It means he's bisexual," one explained.
The cigar-chewing Sgt. Apone's oddly musical phrase "*******s and elbows" got the biggest laugh of the evening; two hours and twenty minutes later, the kids were quoting it as they brushed their teeth. Frost's quip, "What are we supposed to use, man, harsh language?" made my son laugh for nearly a full minute.
During the final alien assault (where they come through the ceiling panels!) a boy half-hidden under a blanket said, "I would commit suicide if I were in this position."
Vasquez was the MVP of the movie. I think all eight boys might have a little bit of a crush on her. When she pinned a xenomorph to a wall with her combat boot and blew its brains out, one exclaimed his delight with profanity, then apologized to me for it. Another boy said Vasquez reminded him of "this lady who works at Costco." He didn't say which Costco. There was a wave of applause for Lt. Gorman and Vasquez holding hands as they blew themselves up. ("She died like a boss," one said.)
There was general agreement amongst the boys that they would like to see a separate film of Newt surviving for weeks on the planet full of aliens. The final duel between the queen mother alien and Ripley in her power loader was a big hit. The boys applauded both combatants' tactics, especially Ripley blocking the queen's tongue-mouth jabs with her blowtorch. ("This is like boxing, except it's slower and they're both wearing armor.")
At bedtime there was some discussion of whether an army of predators could beat an army of aliens. The issue was never resolved. The boys had trouble settling down because every few minutes somebody would plant a palm on somebody's face or grab a toe. At one point, post-screening discussion was hijacked by a science minded boy describing his idea for an "acid-proof Colonial Marine uniform."
"There could be face huggers hiding under the couch right now," one said after a while. There was laughter at this. Then silence. Then stray nervous chuckles. Then a longer silence.
The boy who earlier had suggested alternatives to "Aliens" asked the first boy to "just shut up about the face huggers."
I very rarely wish I could be 11 again, but for these kids, I'm making an exception.
March 1, 2015 | 190Print Page
For his 11th birthday, my son asked if he could have a slumber party. He invited seven other fifth-grade boys. They played video games for a couple of hours, ate pizza, then said they wanted to watch a movie. They'd seen every comic book movie multiple times. Seen all the Indiana Jones films. Star Wars. Anything with a hobbit in it. The usual 11-year old boy options, circa 2015, weren't going to work.
So I suggested "Aliens," thinking, "Well, it's exciting, and even if they haven't see the first one, the movie tells the story well enough that you won't be confused about who Ripley is and what's at stake for her."
They agreed (some of them had seen the first one anyway, and nearly all had seen at least one film with a xenomorph in it) and so we watched it together. And as we watched, I realized again that while unfortunately you can't see a great movie again for the first time, the next-best thing is to show it to people who've never seen it.
My first time with James Cameron's sci-fi war movie was a great filmgoing experience. I saw "Aliens" at the NorthPark 1 and 2 theater at NorthPark Mall in my hometown of Dallas, with a high school classmate who was, at that time, my regular action movie-watching buddy: Gabe Michaels. We drove to NorthPark to catch the 11 a.m. show on opening day and got in line a couple of hours early. We'd already drunk a bit of soda beforehand and I think we might have downed some more while standing in line. When we got into the theater, they seated us immediately and there was only one preview, for "The Fly," and then wham, they started the movie. Neither Gabe nor I nor anyone else who'd been standing in that line wanted to get up from our seats and answer nature's call, even though we all pretty desperately had to; there was a lot of muttering and shifting in seats, quite a few "grin and bear it" expressions.
If you've seen the film, you know there are no aliens to speak of for the first hour, then suddenly there are aliens all over the place, coming out of the walls and ceiling, drooling and shrieking and dragging Marines off into the darkness to be cocooned. It's one of the greatest releases of built-up tension in action film history. Throughout this sequence the audience was enthralled, screaming as the xenomorphs attacked, cheering as Ripley took control of the all-terrain vehicle to rescue the imperiled Colonial Marines. Then when the ATV crashed through the wall, the music stopped, and Hicks told her she'd blown the trans-axle and need to "ease down, Ripley, ease down," everyone collectively seemed to realize they were being given a breather, so at that point Gabe and I and probably a fifth of the audience rose from our seats and headed for the bathrooms: fast-walking, some running.
Guys at the urinals were peeing as fast as they could because they didn't want to miss another minute of "Aliens." You'd have thought somebody was timing them. Like this was the Olympic qualifying round for the bladder evacuation team. But they weren't going fast enough to suit a guy standing near the front door of men's room. He yelled, "*********! All of you, piss faster!"
And that's when I knew "Aliens" was going to be a hit.
Anyway, the slumber party: all kids seemed to agree that "Aliens" was a good suggestion because even though it had aliens in it, it wasn't just trying to scare you, like the first "Alien." "It's basically an action movie, that's what I've heard," one of my son's friends said. Another seemed just a little bit scared, maybe, and kept suggesting other viewing options, including "Guardians of the Galaxy," "Dr. Who," and (for some reason) "Saturday Night Live."
We watched "Aliens" anyway. It went over well. The biggest challenge was dissuading kids from trying to predict every single thing that was going to happen. This is a generation of talkers. They have to comment on everything. No thought can go unexpressed. Maybe this was true when I was a kid as well (I honestly don't remember), but rather than endlessly correct them I decided to just roll with it, exercising my slumber party guardian veto power during scenes that I felt pretty sure would enthrall them if they would just shut up for five minutes (I was rarely proved wrong in my guesses). But it was a sharp crowd, and for the most part the movie went over quite well, for an analog-era science fiction spectacular that's turning 30 next year.
One boy said that Ripley in her hyper sleep chamber looked like Sleeping Beauty. As this was an intentional reference on writer-director James Cameron's part (there's a Snow White reference an hour later) this seemed like a promising note on which to begin the screening. "I like the way this looks," one said. "It's futuristic but it's old school. It's almost steampunk." "This is like Team Fortress 2," another remarked. "Dude, shut up, this was made like 20 years before Team Fortress 2," said the kid next to him. "This is, like, every science fiction movie ever made," another said, as Ripley operated the power loader for the first time.
"This movie has so many cliches in it," a boy said when Colonial Marines disembarked the drop ship and made their way through rainy darkness to enter the alien-infested colony. My son told him, "This movie was made in 1986. It invented all the cliches." Another of his friends was impressed by the "personal data transmitters" implanted in the colonists—impressed that someone had thought of that back in 1986.
The first big jump of the night was the face hugger in the tank trying to "kiss" the evil yuppie Burke. All eight kids flipped out. One screamed. The second big jump of the night was the "please kill me" woman. Half the boys watched her through the cracks between their fingers.
They liked Ripley, Hicks, Frost, Apone, Bishop the android, and even Hudson, whose defeatism irritated them so much that I think they would've hated him if he weren't so funny. "Somebody shoot that guy," one said. Frost insisting that "it doesn't matter" when the "********" is Arcturian confused a couple of kids. "It means he's bisexual," one explained.
The cigar-chewing Sgt. Apone's oddly musical phrase "*******s and elbows" got the biggest laugh of the evening; two hours and twenty minutes later, the kids were quoting it as they brushed their teeth. Frost's quip, "What are we supposed to use, man, harsh language?" made my son laugh for nearly a full minute.
During the final alien assault (where they come through the ceiling panels!) a boy half-hidden under a blanket said, "I would commit suicide if I were in this position."
Vasquez was the MVP of the movie. I think all eight boys might have a little bit of a crush on her. When she pinned a xenomorph to a wall with her combat boot and blew its brains out, one exclaimed his delight with profanity, then apologized to me for it. Another boy said Vasquez reminded him of "this lady who works at Costco." He didn't say which Costco. There was a wave of applause for Lt. Gorman and Vasquez holding hands as they blew themselves up. ("She died like a boss," one said.)
There was general agreement amongst the boys that they would like to see a separate film of Newt surviving for weeks on the planet full of aliens. The final duel between the queen mother alien and Ripley in her power loader was a big hit. The boys applauded both combatants' tactics, especially Ripley blocking the queen's tongue-mouth jabs with her blowtorch. ("This is like boxing, except it's slower and they're both wearing armor.")
At bedtime there was some discussion of whether an army of predators could beat an army of aliens. The issue was never resolved. The boys had trouble settling down because every few minutes somebody would plant a palm on somebody's face or grab a toe. At one point, post-screening discussion was hijacked by a science minded boy describing his idea for an "acid-proof Colonial Marine uniform."
"There could be face huggers hiding under the couch right now," one said after a while. There was laughter at this. Then silence. Then stray nervous chuckles. Then a longer silence.
The boy who earlier had suggested alternatives to "Aliens" asked the first boy to "just shut up about the face huggers."
I very rarely wish I could be 11 again, but for these kids, I'm making an exception.
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I don't really have high hopes for this movie. I can feel another A:R happening. Alien & Aliens will never be beaten and Alien 3 should have been the end of the story.
If it's of no greater quality than A3 then it will still be superior just for having Hicks in it.
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I'm behind on this news. How are they going to fit Hicks in the timeline considering he was dead at the start of 3? 
I'm behind on this news. How are they going to fit Hicks in the timeline considering he was dead at the start of 3?
Hicks is in, Alien 3 is out.
We think - by pretending 3 and 4 didn't happen, not referencing them in any way.
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He's a clone like Ripley.I'm behind on this news. How are they going to fit Hicks in the timeline considering he was dead at the start of 3?
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Fascinating breakdown of the entire saga all the way up to Prometheus:
https://alienseries.wordpress.com/tag/alien-5/
Too many interesting little blurbs to repost but here are a couple:
Right on Jim.
And it's absolutely unbelievable to me that Fox scrapped the development of Cameron and Scott teaming up to make Alien 5 in favor of the first AVP.
https://alienseries.wordpress.com/tag/alien-5/
Too many interesting little blurbs to repost but here are a couple:
Right on Jim.
And it's absolutely unbelievable to me that Fox scrapped the development of Cameron and Scott teaming up to make Alien 5 in favor of the first AVP.
Have Alien 3 be a dream or something Ripley had. Or it can be some sort of whole "simulation" that Weyland-Yutani devised in order to better understand the Xenomorph organism before taking it out of Ripley (if they go the route that she has been infected). In fact, have her, Newt and Hicks ALL be infected but be "on ice" for decades. They're awakened after the chestbursters have been removed and sort of "re-integrated" like in Alien:Resurrection.
Keep in mind, throughout Alien, Aliens and Alien 3, Weyland-Yutani had still "not gotten their hands on" a Xenomorph...at least according to the perspective of the audience and characters.
I don't think Blomkamp is going to find an overwhelming amount of fan hate if he wiped Alien 3 from existence. In fact, it might be one of the smartest movie moves ever made.
Keep in mind, throughout Alien, Aliens and Alien 3, Weyland-Yutani had still "not gotten their hands on" a Xenomorph...at least according to the perspective of the audience and characters.
I don't think Blomkamp is going to find an overwhelming amount of fan hate if he wiped Alien 3 from existence. In fact, it might be one of the smartest movie moves ever made.
Fascinating breakdown of the entire saga all the way up to Prometheus:
https://alienseries.wordpress.com/tag/alien-5/
Too many interesting little blurbs to repost but here are a couple:
Right on Jim.
And it's absolutely unbelievable to me that Fox scrapped the development of Cameron and Scott teaming up to make Alien 5 in favor of the first AVP.
People might call James Cameron an a**hole. But he's a genius one at that. The guy just is always super passionate about what he does...he always expects the best out of everyone including himself. I've ALWAYS liked and respected him.
This is FOX we're talking about. They are one of the MOST bizarre movie/TV studios of all time. They're seriously all over the place...
If Twentieth Century Fox was a person. They'd be bi-polar. You'd be split between hugging them or punching their face in.
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