Sadly doubtful, I expect if there's a new head, the expression and paint will be done to fit pretty much that exact film still. Why give us a head that has value beyond that pose, that'd just be silly, please Hot Toys, prove me wrong.
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Sadly doubtful, I expect if there's a new head, the expression and paint will be done to fit pretty much that exact film still. Why give us a head that has value beyond that pose, that'd just be silly, please Hot Toys, prove me wrong.
Nothing regarding the non-cop Joker stuff is definitive beyond new hands and the bomb rig. Surely there is a new coat because I don't know how you could attach the bombs to the old coat, as to new material and cut, etc., that's all speculation, some firm evidence to support theories, but nothing conclusive.
RICEaRONI
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i said earlier that the coat looks exactly the same. i think the grenade rigging will just attach to the V1 coat somehow.
hi everyone, i havent really been following this thread, can anyone tell me is there any confirmations about the cop joker?
Will he be coming with his purple suit as well?
I dont have any hot toys jokers, but i dont think i can resist any longer, im about to jump in and get the BR joker and the 1st joker, but if the cop joker is coming with the purple suit then i might hold off a little longer. thanx!
Will he be coming with his purple suit as well?
I dont have any hot toys jokers, but i dont think i can resist any longer, im about to jump in and get the BR joker and the 1st joker, but if the cop joker is coming with the purple suit then i might hold off a little longer. thanx!
RICEaRONI
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nobody knows anything. its all speculation
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Well said. All these redos is a bit off-putting. A new coat? I missed that. Will it never end!
Will I get more? Probably. But I can't get them all...
I will get the cop though, and that will do it for me.
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Agreed, that's exactly how I feel. It's not so much the money (I have the means to get it) it's just not right on HTs part.
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This thing will sell, and most people will continue buying anything Hot Toys puts out. We are at the forefront of some of the best 1/6 figures ever, and all people want to do is complain. 
The same thing happens when they release a new Ipod. Some people bellyache about the upgraded features over the old model. Nobody cries harder than the guy who just bought a new Ipod two weeks before the new model hits stores. Nothing is wrong with his Ipod, but he still cries cause it's just not the "best" or "newest" model.
If you are the type that is bothered by not having the "best," then be prepared to spend a lot of money keeping up. And be prepared to be occasionally be burned if you are an early adopter.
I have at least five different Clint Eastwood resin head sculpts. Each one is slightly better than the last. And now Rainman is working on a new Eastwood sculpt. Am I disappointed? Not in the slightest.
The same thing happens when they release a new Ipod. Some people bellyache about the upgraded features over the old model. Nobody cries harder than the guy who just bought a new Ipod two weeks before the new model hits stores. Nothing is wrong with his Ipod, but he still cries cause it's just not the "best" or "newest" model.
If you are the type that is bothered by not having the "best," then be prepared to spend a lot of money keeping up. And be prepared to be occasionally be burned if you are an early adopter.
I have at least five different Clint Eastwood resin head sculpts. Each one is slightly better than the last. And now Rainman is working on a new Eastwood sculpt. Am I disappointed? Not in the slightest.
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Well said. All these redos is a bit off-putting. A new coat? I missed that. Will it never end!
Will I get more? Probably. But I can't get them all...
I will get the cop though, and that will do it for me.
Les, you make money off re-dos! How can you be put off?
plasmid303
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I missed out on the original V1 Joker, so this is great.
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This thing will sell, and most people will continue buying anything Hot Toys puts out. We are at the forefront of some of the best 1/6 figures ever, and all people want to do is complain.
The same thing happens when they release a new Ipod. Some people bellyache about the upgraded features over the old model. Nobody cries harder than the guy who just bought a new Ipod two weeks before the new model hits stores. Nothing is wrong with his Ipod, but he still cries cause it's just not the "best" or "newest" model.
If you are the type that is bothered by not having the "best," then be prepared to spend a lot of money keeping up. And be prepared to be occasionally be burned if you are an early adopter.
I have at least five different Clint Eastwood resin head sculpts. Each one is slightly better than the last. And now Rainman is working on a new Eastwood sculpt. Am I disappointed? Not in the slightest.
I agree, it happens with everything look at dvd and blu-ray movies with their ultimate-ultimate editions and 10 disc collections and then a few months later something bigger and better comes out. Its the nature of the biz and a sucker IS born every minute and I am one. There will always something better than what was out before and if Hot Toys does'nt release it someone else will and when they do I will want it and so will everyone else. Are they taking advantage? Of course they are!
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I agree, it happens with everything look at dvd and blu-ray movies with their ultimate-ultimate editions and 10 disc collections and then a few months later something bigger and better comes out. Its the nature of the biz and a sucker IS born every minute and I am one. There will always something better than what was out before and if Hot Toys does'nt release it someone else will and when they do I will want it and so will everyone else. Are they taking advantage? Of course they are!
I had just purchased the fifth volume of the Twilight Zone ultimate edition DVD set when they announced that the whole five volume set was going to be released in a packaged deal for hundreds less than I paid individually.
******* happens.
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the more I sit back and look at this, the more it seems to me like they are advertising 2 new deluxe, separate figures...
At times, better pieces coming later is fitting.
As I've said before, the HT Begins figure is a perfect example. They did their first one earlier when they didn't quite have the headsculpts and such they do now, it was great then. The new figure benefits from 2-3 years of learning and growing and is just not something they were capable of in 2005.
However, there are other examples now, where Hot Toys isn't growing, they're not learning anything new, they just bleed things out with no regard for the collector.
Again, call it idealistic, but I'd rather see Hot Toys deliver their best efforts the first go around and make more products instead of revisited things.
Examples of what I mean.
AVPR Wolf Predator - 1 figure is made, most accessories included, I believe it was timed to be out when the film hit theaters. A few months down the road, another Wolf is release, featuring remaining accessories not included the first time, none of which HT couldn't have been capable of making the first time they released Wolf.
Joker - 1 figure is made, clothing and headsculpt aren't dead on film accurrate but it was close and a great looking figure at the time, shortly after, a far superiorly sculpted and painted head is available, now about 9 months later, we may be seeing some of the clothing improved and released with something else.
The issue is not that HT continues to make improved products, I think everyone could agree that's great, go for it.
The frustration a lot of us have, is that the updated/improved items we often see are not things that are benefitting from newly learned techniques or whatever, when the original item was made, these things could have been done right and for reasons unknown (rush to get orders at peak film hype or whatever), they weren't.
Things like the BR head vs. the v1 head are like, Yulli was capable of that from the get go, probably had bad reference to work from so it wasn't her best, but her skills were there, she was doing great portraits before Ledger Joker came along, so if the v1 hadn't been rushed, all along we'd have had a BR caliber portrait. Same with the coat, better material choice and more proper cut are things that could have been achieved on a figure last summer and weren't.
And on the flips side, there's things like the Dutch and Connor figures where HT states about reworking sculpts. Ordinarily, that's an opportunity for another figure, but instead they have and are working on these things before the lone figure is released, so they are willing to fix things before shipping out a figure to make it the best. Hopefully, this is a lesson learned and TDK collector aggrivation heard and the only reason we're still seeing things this way with Joker are because of how far along we are.
Bottom line is, I, and I think others, are just looking for more effort the first time around and less of these Joker style tactics. If legitimate new skills or whatever are learned that can result in an even better version of a figure, go for it, but a piece here and there that could have been like the "new" one back on the "old" figure is just marketing games and frustrating.
Devil_666
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Yup.. I'm getting that impression as well now.
Voorhees27
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You guys need to all go pop Batman Begins in right now, preferably on Blu Ray if not DVD will do. After the film is done come back on here to this very thread but before then go take a sneak peek at your Batman shelf and I promise all will be well!
I just did and I feel pretty damn good right now, not nerd good but just damn content for what I have and excited to see whats next!
Disclaimer: TheTerminator is high on pain killers and may or may not truly express actual thought, or there of thoughts that may actually be used in a normal situation.
I just did and I feel pretty damn good right now, not nerd good but just damn content for what I have and excited to see whats next!
Disclaimer: TheTerminator is high on pain killers and may or may not truly express actual thought, or there of thoughts that may actually be used in a normal situation.
Voorhees27
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If you can type all that out, you can't be too doped up
Well o.k. fine it was just Advil but still I think i'm all high on Nolan Batman flicks right now, they really do alot for an unemployed dude!
I stand behind my words, Begins is the better of the 2. Opinion of course.
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Then they better fix the collar of the shirt, make a new pattern for the tie, a darker blue for the back of the vest, a blue blazer with burnt orange lining, and a better coat with burnt orange lining.
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