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[greygoose]

Predator 2 always guarantees a mass debate.

 

[Boba Ben]

I don't know. I always thought he ran away to the ship after being severely injured and defeated, but Danny Glover tracked him down. He figured he had to kill or be killed at that point and he be killed.

 

[greygoose]

P2 kill count is 28.

P1 kill count is 11.

I love P1 but I'll just leave those stastistics here.

 

[fosing]

that ship didnt LAND in LA.....

it crashed. go figure.

majority of those kills were crackheads, and used for trophies.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

that ship didnt LAND in LA.....

it crashed. go figure.

majority of those kills were crackheads, and used for trophies.

The majority of those kills were LARGE GROUPS of crazy, trigger-happy Jamaicans/colombians armed with incredibly deadly machine guns out to brutally kill each other..

The trophies were from the elites... King Willy, Danny Archuleta (spelling), Lambert...

Why on earth do you think the ship crashed?

 

[greygoose]

The majority of those kills were LARGE GROUPS of crazy, trigger-happy Jamaicans/colombians armed with incredibly deadly machine guns out to brutally kill each other..

The trophies were from the elites... King Willy, Danny Archuleta (spelling), Lambert...

 

[Kiva]

People really _____ing over P2 getting injured?

He was a noob. Plain and simple, he was a Youngblood..had never hunted Humans before. He wasn't scared, he was using his god damn instincts and obviously wanted his clanmates to see the final blow..

I agree with all thoes parts bar the last one. He was on his way back to the ship because he was ____ed up. he was on limited "air" as he had lost his biomask and was obviously in need of a serious sit down and cup of tea. But the last thing he should of done is bring the guy thats ____ed him up back to the lair to potentially harm and possibly kill his other clan mates. Thats why when i think of that scene its like a yelping puppy running back to its owner without thought.

I dont like to rag on P2 i love the suit design and the movie. I just dont like badass being thrown around with him when his feats of badassery are taken away at the end by him showing how truly green he was therefor making his prior kills look more like reckless assaults because now you have seen him under pressure you do not think he could actually pull it off.

And yeah Harrigan was an awesome cop. I am not treating him like a normal guy. But P2 had all the cards in his favour but he pissed them all away out of either stupidity or recklessness which is why it grinds my gears all the times he has praised for being the most bad ass.

Cannot wait for the p2 toy!

 

[fosing]

The majority of those kills were LARGE GROUPS of crazy, trigger-happy Jamaicans/colombians armed with incredibly deadly machine guns out to brutally kill each other..

The trophies were from the elites... King Willy, Danny Archuleta (spelling), Lambert...

Why on earth do you think the ship crashed?

WHY? shortbus pred.

you ever wondered where the lost preds were? INDOORS, most likely repairing the ship.

 

[Predator1221]

Let me begin by saying I do feel predator 2 is a highly under rated predator movie. But I don't think the movie or its respective predator holds a candle to the original predator. I feel the predators get worse and worse with each sequel, with exception to the wolf predator who was pretty badass. Though we mustn't forget that wolf did allow predator technology to get into human hands which could arguably be the greatest predator f___ up of all time, but I'm not trying to start that debate.
Personally I feel that the writers of all the predator movies seem to fail to remember the most bad ass part of the first predator, that being the original predator was almost untouchable. He spent his entire season brutally hunting guerilla factions and elite extraction units, and the only reason arnie was able to best him was b/c the predator chose to post pone killing him to level the odds and kill him honorably.

 

[Lugal]

It was officially stated that the Jungle Hunter is on higher class than City Hunter. He's good enough so he travelling to hunt alone. The filmakers (and we all knew) that CH is a noob, fresh from college and just got certified to be a clan's warrior. He's so reckless because of that. Filmakers said they wanted to try something new and different from P1, which had an unstoppable killing machine we all love in it, then they changed the villain to a reckless, low experience hunter instead.
What JH killed are a group of very high experience, top-level soldiers. They're elites. What P2 killed are a group of gangsters and spec ops with FREEZERS...
Commentary and Special Features on the disc are useful, you know...

 

[crazypredator2]

that ship didnt LAND in LA.....

it crashed. go figure.

majority of those kills were crackheads, and used for trophies.

if the ship crashed, what body shop did elder use to fix it ?
the ship launched and flew back into space at the end of movie.

 

[a-dev]

P1 was running from the Terminator P2 was running from the guy from Lethal Weapon!

The guy from Lethal Weapon 4 who had a pretty good crack at Jet Li, getting in more hits than Mel Gibson as I recall..

 

[Kiva]

LThough we mustn't forget that wolf did allow predator technology to get into human hands which could arguably be the greatest predator f___ up of all time, but I'm not trying to start that debate.

All though it is a good debate. You have got to wonder if Predator tech falling into our hands was actually the first time or even that big a deal. Because, AVP continuity wise they have helped us for thousands of years and as far as we know helped make us into the race we are. What is to say they didnt introduce one way or another slight technological advances to help us along the way and become better more advanced species. Because we have came an awful long way in an awful short period of time. And also There is bound to be some remains of p1 in the jungle, p2 Had his mask and combi stick lost and the goverment or whatnot was bound to confiscate them. And they already had the dart. And AVP Elder have Lex a Predator weapon as a gift. So maybe the predators do not care about us getting their tech.

Damn i wish predator movies were not so full of awesomeness then we could focus on the toys

 

[Rzeznikk]

It was officially stated that the Jungle Hunter is on higher class than City Hunter. He's good enough so he travelling to hunt alone. The filmakers (and we all knew) that CH is a noob, fresh from college and just got certified to be a clan's warrior. He's so reckless because of that. Filmakers said they wanted to try something new and different from P1, which had an unstoppable killing machine we all love in it, then they changed the villain to a reckless, low experience hunter instead.
What JH killed are a group of very high experience, top-level soldiers. They're elites. What P2 killed are a group of gangsters and spec ops with FREEZERS...
Commentary and Special Features on the disc are useful, you know...

 

[Predator1221]

I watched those extras and understand that they were aiming for a less experienced predator, but I'm just simply saying that whether or not they meant to do it or not the p2 wasn't as bad ass as the p1. I just wish that they would go back to that original idea and possibly finaly deliver us a predator film that is as good as the original.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Someone mentioned the breather, Bakurenoh I believe.

I always thought he was using it because he was recently shot 7-9 times at close range with a shotgun..and we don't see any of the other Predators using some type of breathing equipment anytime they take their Bios off on Earth.

I do believe he got spooked and felt safer running back to the clan, but I also believe half of it was to show off..always got that feeling.

City Hunter is, and will always be, a badass Youngblood with an even more badass design.

 

[Rzeznikk]

IMO, the Original P1 is the only one that has (out of the ones Ive seen in battle ex: Elder/Lost clan dont count) fought with the most cunning and honorable way.

P1-Cunning, Honorable Badass

P2-Sloppy, coward, looked to be honorable due too setting the bomb, then when that failed ran home to family.

AVP-Chopper: gets ass handed to him from the get go, Celtic: Put up a good fight but dies from being sloppy, Scar: Dishonorable, sets off bomb and runs??? Really? You ____ up you die honorably with the prey. Not run.

AVP:R-Scar: As mentioned, great skilled hunter, but his major ____ up was having Predator tech fall into human hands, but he was fighting an upward battle, trying to clean up the ____ fest that the last clan did.

Predators: Tracker: Sloppy, Falconer: Honorable, Bezerker: Brutal, but Probably the most dishonorable Predator in the films. Royce gets the ship and in terms, "wins the game" so to speak and what does he do? Blows up the ship? Punk. Classic: Id like to tell myself that if he wasnt weak from hanging on the totem for so long he might have been able to take Bezerker 1:1, since Zerker didnt have his buddies to back him any more...

I would have loved to see the P2 Elder in action. That would have been sweet, hes obviously a bad ass if hes been around and knows a few things.

Thats my take on the Preds anyways,

 

[Predator1221]

All though it is a good debate. You have got to wonder if Predator tech falling into our hands was actually the first time or even that big a deal. Because, AVP continuity wise they have helped us for thousands of years and as far as we know helped make us into the race we are. What is to say they didnt introduce one way or another slight technological advances to help us along the way and become better more advanced species. Because we have came an awful long way in an awful short period of time. And also There is bound to be some remains of p1 in the jungle, p2 Had his mask and combi stick lost and the goverment or whatnot was bound to confiscate them. And they already had the dart. And AVP Elder have Lex a Predator weapon as a gift. So maybe the predators do not care about us getting their tech.

Damn i wish predator movies were not so full of awesomeness then we could focus on the toys

Lets face it teaching us to build pyramids and giving lex a nifty spear is a far different then giving us access to a plasma based projectile weapon. I'm just thinking about that old predator concrete jungle game were they enumerated the predators failures in the beginning of the game and cited that the worst failure was him allowing there weapons technology to fall into human hands, thereby threatening the predators greatest advantage over humans. You are right about P2 I failed to consider what he left behind but once again the spear and mask to me don't seem nearly as potentially threatening as the plasma caster in human hands.

 

[persuazion]

*retracts all eBay bids* thanks Hot Toys!

 

[Predator1221]

IMO, the Original P1 is the only one that has (out of the ones Ive seen in battle ex: Elder/Lost clan dont count) fought with the most cunning and honorable way.

P1-Cunning, Honorable Badass

P2-Sloppy, coward, looked to be honorable due too setting the bomb, then when that failed ran home to family.

AVP-Chopper: gets ass handed to him from the get go, Celtic: Put up a good fight but dies from being sloppy, Scar: Dishonorable, sets off bomb and runs??? Really? You ____ up you die honorably with the prey. Not run.

AVP:R-Scar: As mentioned, great skilled hunter, but his major ____ up was having Predator tech fall into human hands, but he was fighting an upward battle, trying to clean up the ____ fest that the last clan did.

Predators: Tracker: Sloppy, Falconer: Honorable, Bezerker: Brutal, but Probably the most dishonorable Predator in the films. Royce gets the ship and in terms, "wins the game" so to speak and what does he do? Blows up the ship? Punk. Classic: Id like to tell myself that if he wasnt weak from hanging on the totem for so long he might have been able to take Bezerker 1:1, since Zerker didnt have his buddies to back him any more...

I would have loved to see the P2 Elder in action. That would have been sweet, hes obviously a bad ass if hes been around and knows a few things.

Thats my take on the Preds anyways,

I agree with you entirely thank you for writing all that out. I wanted to say all of that but know I have a tendency to get to wordy. We have both obviously spent to much time thinking about this haha.