NFL Thread

[FLOSI]

The best part about that clip is at the very end when he puts his head down and says, "_____*ers" and walks off.

Hey earlier in this thread you posted how it felt when your 49ers lost to the Giants in the '90 championship game.

Do you remember the '87 division playoff game when the Vikings came into Candlestick and whipped your team 36-24? That was a 36-10 beat down before you scored two 4th qtr garbage TDs. Montana was pulled for Steve young too.

A truly glorious day in Vikings history.

We beat the Saints 44-10 in Wild Card game too.

Err, we lost to the Redskins in the next game but we won't talk about that.

I most certainly do remember. Millard and Doleman just smashed our line to bits...

I also remember the following year when we beat the Vikings 34-9 (I had to look that score up) and our o-line blocked magnificently. Funny the way that worked... We had a good team in 87 and had high hopes going into the playoffs only to be crushed at home. Fast-forward to 1988 and we limped into the playoffs at 10-6. On top of that we were playing the Vikes yet again, only this time we returned the favor from the prior year and blasted you guys. I'm not sure if revenge could ever be a driving factor in a football game but I really do think playing the Vikings a year after getting dismantled and playing so well really catapulted them to the championship that year... and the next, and almost the next... where we come full circle to that Giants NFC Championship game loss.


Damn you!

 

[Grenouille]

That '85-'87 stretch was really tough on the 49ers. I know nowadays everyone just looks at the NFL Films of the SB wins and sees Joe Montana as a guy that never had a bad day, but there were a few hiccups between Super Bowl titles.

 

[FLOSI]

There were a lot of really, really good teams in the NFC during the 80's... Dallas early in the decade but Washington, New York, Chicago, Minnesota and Philadelphia all had excellent teams at certain points, if not for the entire decade. It was a great time to grow up as a football fan.

 

[Grenouille]

'82-'97 15 of the 16 SB winners were from the NFC. The 49ers (5), Redskins (3), Cowboys (3), Giants (2), Bears (1) and Packers (1). Unbelievable run by the conference.

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

I also remember the following year when we beat the Vikings 34-9

Don't forget the following year when the 49ers crushed us also...San Francisco 41, Minnesota 13 (division round).
That was the demise of the Jerry Burns era.

Apparently, your team didn't forget for 2 years.

 

[sprig0701]

'82-'97 15 of the 16 SB winners were from the NFC. The 49ers (5), Redskins (3), Cowboys (3), Giants (2), Bears (1) and Packers (1). Unbelievable run by the conference.

Yeah, thanks Buffalo!

 

[wofford29]

I hope O'brien dicking around with Penn-State doesn't mess up the Pats offensive preparation.

 

[OSCORP]

GO LIONS!


(and whoever plays the Packers next week!)

 

[Darth Cruel]

Ouch. This had to hurt T.O.

JudgeTellsTOhiscareerisover

 

[OSCORP]

Eff em!

 

[karamazov80]

Damn. My instinct is to think of how TO's claims are farcical considering the money he made in his career, but the mother of the child is probably demanding an outrageous sum to "maintain their quality of life" of whatever.

 

[guyver1]

I wish the Eagles coaching staff would punish the players by making them stay at their training facilities through the Superbowl. On gamedays they would all be forced to watch each game, and on all other days forced to watch them over and over. Maybe then they will see what it takes to play hard every game and watch teams that actually give a ____.

The way I see it there is no leader in Philly. Say what you want about Mcnabb, the guy was a leader there, yeah his play started to drop, but he knew how to hold that team together in his prime. Vick's a stud, but he was out too long, and he forgot how too lead.

Philly should've kept Mcnabb to mentor Vick, and help him get back into his leadership role.

Brian Westbrook was the second leader, if Mcnabb was struggling in the Eagles prime , so I think McCoy should act more like a leader, when Vick was injured. VY was the biggest mistake for Philly.

 

[user 1190]

Damn. My instinct is to think of how TO's claims are farcical considering the money he made in his career, but the mother of the child is probably demanding an outrageous sum to "maintain their quality of life" of whatever.

Yeah they will say he is making x millions I deserve this much for the kid, but he is no longer making that kind of money and never will so they should lower the money he has to pay. Especially when the amount he is paying her for the "kid" is probably paying for her new car, her house and whatever else she wants to buy herself.

 

[guyver1]

Damn. My instinct is to think of how TO's claims are farcical considering the money he made in his career, but the mother of the child is probably demanding an outrageous sum to "maintain their quality of life" of whatever.

If T.O. Comes back, he should go to the panthers, they need some quality receivers if Smith gets injured next season. Denver would be another choice of mine.

 

[BadMoon]

The way I see it there is no leader in Philly. Say what you want about Mcnabb, the guy was a leader there, yeah his play started to drop, but he knew how to hold that team together in his prime. Vick's a stud, but he was out too long, and he forgot how too lead.

Philly should've kept Mcnabb to mentor Vick, and help him get back into his leadership role.

Brian Westbrook was the second leader, if Mcnabb was struggling in the Eagles prime , so I think McCoy should act more like a leader, when Vick was injured. VY was the biggest mistake for Philly.

The biggest mistake wasn't McNabb. It was Brian Dawkins. He was the heart and soul of the team. Ever since then leadership went down hill. Vick is okay at it. He says the right things and I've seen him grab a few players by their facemask and take it to them. But the loss of B Dawk hurt badly.

 

[sprig0701]

The way I see it there is no leader in Philly. Say what you want about Mcnabb, the guy was a leader there, yeah his play started to drop, but he knew how to hold that team together in his prime. Vick's a stud, but he was out too long, and he forgot how too lead.

Philly should've kept Mcnabb to mentor Vick, and help him get back into his leadership role.

Brian Westbrook was the second leader, if Mcnabb was struggling in the Eagles prime , so I think McCoy should act more like a leader, when Vick was injured. VY was the biggest mistake for Philly.

McNabb was never a leader there. Watch Super Bowl XXXIX when they're down 2 scores with just over 5 minutes to go and the entire team is in hurry-up mode, while he just jogs up to the line of scrimmage every play. You could tell then he was coming up with his excuse for losing. That is by no means a leader of a team.

Like BadMoon said, Dawkins was their heart-and-soul of that team. Once he left they never filled that leadership role they were missing. There is no definitive leader of that team right now, and McNabb was never one (even in his "prime"), either. They probably did better by getting rid of him.

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

If T.O. Comes back, he should go to the panthers, they need some quality receivers if Smith gets injured next season. Denver would be another choice of mine.

Carolina doesn't need the drama that T.O. carries with him. I don't think any team does.

 

[Grenouille]

I hope O'brien dicking around with Penn-State doesn't mess up the Pats offensive preparation.

No more than Weis leaving a few years back. The Patriots offense has been pretty constant playbook wise over the Belichick era no matter who the OC was.

 

[wofford29]

No more than Weis leaving a few years back. The Patriots offense has been pretty constant playbook wise over the Belichick era no matter who the OC was.

I just meant as far as coming up with the gameplan and being spread thin between the two things.

 

[karamazov80]

Who really knows, but neither Vick nor McNabb ever struck me as genuine leaders. Neither one seemed to really care enough about winning. Same applies to a guy like Jay Cutler or Eli Manning. It seems to me that the best leaders who who end up playing the best in big-time situations have a major aversion to losing. Brady, Manning (apart from his play in the playoffs ), Elway, Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Reggie White, etc.

I'm not sure if Aaron Rodgers has that personality characteristic or not, though. He might be an exception to the rule, being a really laid back, reasonably carefree guy who can still be a great leader and winner in clutch situations.

. . .just idle speculation. . .