NFL Thread

[Centurion]

So far, it seems we are all over the place.

...except, most of us agree that Patriots win this weekend.

I find equally interesting that almost half of us here think Giants will finally bring down the Packers.

Can't wait for this weekend.

 

[FLOSI]

Alright. Who I want to win is the Red Sox but I think it will be Winnipeg.

The Jets? Really? I don't see it.

 

[Darth Madden]

Who I want.

Denver
SF
Giants
Texans

Who I think.

NE
NO
GB
Baltimore

 

[The Josh]

Niners
Packers
Ravens
Pats

 

[sithjedi171]

Saints
Packers
Ravens
Patriots

 

[sprig0701]

Alright, Ike Taylor got Tebowed and the Steelers are out. No big deal, it's not the 1st time I've watched them lose a play off game they should've won. I had a feeling that bad snap by Legursky to knock them out of FG range before the half would come back to bite them. Drew Brees is still in, so I'm good.

This weekend I'll take;

Giants I just smell an upset on this one. I thought they looked good last weekend, and I never think it's a good idea to rest players before the play offs- especially with a 1st round bye. Most teams that do that have a terrible track record.

Saints Outdoors, on the road, I don't think it matters. That offense just looks unstoppable. These guys are my pick for the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.

Patriots No hard feelings against the Broncos, it's just the Pats are looking unstoppable on offense, as well. A hobbled Roethlisberger behind a makeshift O line was able to finally get in a rhythm against their D, so I don't see how they're going to contend against Brady with a healthy O line. These guys are my AFC pick for the Super Bowl.

Texans I'm smelling another upset here. I'm just feeling the Ravens are patting themselves on the back too much for sweeping the Steelers and winning the Division, and they've looked rather blah at home their past couple of games, and the Texans won big time and have momentum, so I see Houston weathering the early storm and winning a close one at the end. I see Cam Cameron with his predictable play calling abandoning the run game too early (again, as usual), and Flacco trying to take over to "prove he's capable" and that he should get credit for the team winning, whatever, they lose.

I was 3-1 with my picks last weekend. Of course, my 1 bad pick was the Steelers. UGH!! Too many people gave credit to the Bengals, IMO, and this week I think the Ravens are getting too much credit.

 

[ProgMatinee]

I don't know man, by "shoulda won" do you mean on paper? I grant you that.

But if you're saying there were plays that should have been executed in order for them to win, for every "coulda shoulda" play on the Steelers behalf there were just as many plays the other way that "shoulda" made the game 23 (or more)-17. No fumble by McGahee: Broncos win. No dropped INT by Bailey: Broncos win. Ref doesn't blow the whistle too early on the lateral: Broncos win. It came down to 1 play at the end, but if we're going to play "shoulda" then it goes both ways.

 

[karamazov80]

I don't know man, by "shoulda won" do you mean on paper? I grant you that.

But if you're saying there were plays that should have been executed in order for them to win, for every "coulda shoulda" play on the Steelers behalf there were just as many plays the other way that "shoulda" made the game 23 (or more)-17. No fumble by McGahee: Broncos win. No dropped INT by Bailey: Broncos win. Ref doesn't blow the whistle too early on the lateral: Broncos win. It came down to 1 play at the end, but if we're going to play "shoulda" then it goes both ways.

Yeah, there are so many of those in every game that I don't like to use that argument. The game is what it is. The team that should win did win in my mind, every time. You work within the confines of the game, including the imperfections of the refereeing process. If the team is really better, then they will overcome those issues and pull out the W. The times it really hurts though is when a game is close and a call goes horrifically wrong and seems to make the difference. But again, if you step back and think of all those other seemingly insignificant plays earlier that went wrong, are they really any less significant in the grand scheme of things?

 

[sprig0701]

I don't know man, by "shoulda won" do you mean on paper? I grant you that.

But if you're saying there were plays that should have been executed in order for them to win, for every "coulda shoulda" play on the Steelers behalf there were just as many plays the other way that "shoulda" made the game 23 (or more)-17. No fumble by McGahee: Broncos win. No dropped INT by Bailey: Broncos win. Ref doesn't blow the whistle too early on the lateral: Broncos win. It came down to 1 play at the end, but if we're going to play "shoulda" then it goes both ways.

Uh yeah, going into that game it was one they should've won, even with all their injuries. Did they play well enough to win? Hell no. But, still if not for 1 bad Legursky snap before the half they would have avoided that OT embarrassment. I'm not making excuses for them, they sucked that game, but if you want to bring up that officiating like it only helped the Steelers, I don't see you mentioning anything about the play in OT not being flagged, and of course the NFL saying it shouldn't have so Steelers fan don't get riled up, but it should have. That sure didn't favor the Steelers.

Don't get all pissy about the Steelers being highly favored to win, your Broncos won. Steelers would've just got embarrassed this weekend anyway.

 

[user 1190]

Uh yeah, going into that game it was one they should've won, even with all their injuries. Did they play well enough to win? Hell no. But, still if not for 1 bad Legursky snap before the half they would have avoided that OT embarrassment. I'm not making excuses for them, they sucked that game, but if you want to bring up that officiating like it only helped the Steelers, I don't see you mentioning anything about the play in OT not being flagged, and of course the NFL saying it shouldn't have so Steelers fan don't get riled up, but it should have. That sure didn't favor the Steelers.

Don't get all pissy about the Steelers being highly favored to win, your Broncos won. Steelers would've just got embarrassed this weekend anyway.

By the letter of the law that would get flagged ALL the time. They give a lot of leeway on that one in every game.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Uh yeah, going into that game it was one they should've won, even with all their injuries. Did they play well enough to win? Hell no. But, still if not for 1 bad Legursky snap before the half they would have avoided that OT embarrassment. I'm not making excuses for them, they sucked that game, but if you want to bring up that officiating like it only helped the Steelers, I don't see you mentioning anything about the play in OT not being flagged, and of course the NFL saying it shouldn't have so Steelers fan don't get riled up, but it should have. That sure didn't favor the Steelers.

Don't get all pissy about the Steelers being highly favored to win, your Broncos won. Steelers would've just got embarrassed this weekend anyway.

1)I'm not pissy.
2)I already conceded that "on paper" (ie before the game) the Steelers "shoulda won". Thats why they were heavy favorites.
3)However, once the game was played, your reference to a play at the 50 yard line at half time being the reason the Steelers lost is ridiculous. I mentioned several plays that if only the Broncos had executed or the refs called it correctly the game would have been over.

You can't nit pick 1 play and say "if" and by doing so dismiss the entire rest of the game as if the Broncos didn't earn it.

And regarding officiating. The sweep from the 1 yard line for Pittsburgh was a holding all the way on the TE and they didn't call that.

 

[Something Sexy]

So far, it seems we are all over the place.

...except, most of us agree that Patriots win this weekend.

I find equally interesting that almost half of us here think Giants will finally bring down the Packers.

Can't wait for this weekend.

It is going to be the toughest game of the year for us. I of course want us to win but I am not naive enough to think they 100% will.

 

[sprig0701]

1)I'm not pissy.
2)I already conceded that "on paper" (ie before the game) the Steelers "shoulda won". Thats why they were heavy favorites.
3)However, once the game was played, your reference to a play at the 50 yard line at half time being the reason the Steelers lost is ridiculous. I mentioned several plays that if only the Broncos had executed or the refs called it correctly the game would have been over.

You can't nit pick 1 play and say "if" and by doing so dismiss the entire rest of the game as if the Broncos didn't earn it.

And regarding officiating. The sweep from the 1 yard line for Pittsburgh was a holding all the way on the TE and they didn't call that.

All I said was it was a game they should have won, and that when before the half they WERE in FG range before a bad snap that lost around 20 yds, so yes if the back up center's 1 bad snap didn't happen then then they could have kicked a FG before the half and led at the end. Even as horrible as they did play, they still barely lost. Your the one that jumps on like "all hell no he didn't just say that 'bout my team. Mmm-mmm, I don't think so."

And had the Steelers won the coin toss and scored, would they have earned it? Hell no! They played like ____! Plain and simple, and they still barely lost? Yeah, Denver earned that miracle win against a decimated roster on the road. Good job

You honestly watched that game and can only bring up that no-call? When a Broncos receiver pushes Ike Taylor backwards before going into his break in his route, knocking him backwards, and picks up over 50 yds, but no-call. C'mon, that game was so poorly officiated both ways it was ridiculous. Both teams got away with murder on a lot of plays.

 

[sprig0701]

By the letter of the law that would get flagged ALL the time. They give a lot of leeway on that one in every game.

Once again, STFU, I don't care if you have valid points or not, your opinion isn't worth a damn, .......... Left that for your own interpretation of what you're being, because you and everyone else on this thread knows you only jump into adult conversations to get people going. You have zero concern for conversation in here.

 

[ProgMatinee]

All I said was it was a game they should have won, and that when before the half they WERE in FG range before a bad snap that lost around 20 yds, so yes if the back up center's 1 bad snap didn't happen then then they could have kicked a FG before the half and led at the end. Even as horrible as they did play, they still barely lost. Your the one that jumps on like "all hell no he didn't just say that 'bout my team. Mmm-mmm, I don't think so."

whatever. What I am saying shouldn't feel like I am defending my team or ridiculing your team. It is what it is. A play at the 50 yard line before halftime did not decide this game. But it took you 3 days just to show your face in this thread so I should have expected the thin skin.

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

Once again, STFU, I don't care if you have valid points or not, your opinion isn't worth a damn,

 

[user 1190]

Once again, STFU, I don't care if you have valid points or not, your opinion isn't worth a damn, .......... Left that for your own interpretation of what you're being, because you and everyone else on this thread knows you only jump into adult conversations to get people going. You have zero concern for conversation in here.

Nope you can use ignore feature but yeah I do get enjoyment of upsetting a couple people here.

 

[sprig0701]

whatever. What I am saying shouldn't feel like I am defending my team or ridiculing your team. It is what it is. A play at the 50 yard line before halftime did not decide this game. But it took you 3 days just to show your face in this thread so I should have expected the thin skin.

I was thinking about how maybe I was jumping the gun, until that last comment. I see you're no better than mfoga with just getting a kick out of getting a rise out of people. Which, was why I stayed away a few days, because I called him a ****** bag (and was wrong for doing so on here but it's not like I was guilty of lying) and Josh jumped me about it, so I thought I'd stay away a few days. Guess I should have waited longer because the resident Broncos fan was patrolling making sure no one disrespects his team.

But unlike what you jumped me about, I was not taking away anything from the Broncos. They don't make the play offs very often, and they should enjoy the "quality" win against the defending AFC Champs. Well, at least against the healthy ones that hobbled onto the field.

 

[sprig0701]

Nope you can use ignore feature but yeah I do get enjoyment of upsetting a couple people here.

Yeah, which is actually in direct violation of forum rules. That whole posting with the intent of "flaming" someone. People like you aren't worth the 5 seconds it takes to ignore, because you get pleasure out of that. I'll just be content telling you what you are and telling you how valued your opinion is. But of course, you're one of the ones who feels it necessary to reiterate how you're an adult. Quite funny, actually.

 

[ProgMatinee]

But unlike what you jumped me about, I was not taking away anything from the Broncos. They don't make the play offs very often, and they should enjoy the "quality" win against the defending AFC Champs. Well, at least against the healthy ones that hobbled onto the field.

Again, I didn't "jump" you. Any reasonable person would have taken my post not as a "jump" or a ridicule, but as a rebuttal to a statement that I thought deserved clarification.

Here is my post again. If you can point out the point where I "jumped" on you, please do so and I'll see if I need to apologize...but I read it a few times and fail to see any point where I was antagonistic.

I don't know man, by "shoulda won" do you mean on paper? I grant you that.

But if you're saying there were plays that should have been executed in order for them to win, for every "coulda shoulda" play on the Steelers behalf there were just as many plays the other way that "shoulda" made the game 23 (or more)-17. No fumble by McGahee: Broncos win. No dropped INT by Bailey: Broncos win. Ref doesn't blow the whistle too early on the lateral: Broncos win. It came down to 1 play at the end, but if we're going to play "shoulda" then it goes both ways.