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I'm not convinced he ever had a choice. The Broncos' sold the guy out. Really sad considering all the $$$ he raked in for them and is pretty much the top reason that team even got to .500 and ever had a shot at signing Manning at all.

Just low. Sold him down the river for probably $2m difference.

For once, I 100% agree with you. Someone's gonna have to help pull the knife out of Tebow's back. But karma's a mother. One nasty hit on Peyton and it's buh-bye...:wave
 
I think it's safe to say there's going to be some lawsuits coming from this scandal. As much as a diva Favre turned into, I wouldn't look at it as attention whoring if he did sue them, though.
 
For once, I 100% agree with you. Someone's gonna have to help pull the knife out of Tebow's back. But karma's a mother. One nasty hit on Peyton and it's buh-bye...:wave

And all it takes is 2 interceptions from Manning for the people to start crying for Tebow.... thats why he is gone. Elway has been wanting to get rid of him since day 1.
 
And all it takes is 2 interceptions from Manning for the people to start crying for Tebow.... thats why he is gone. Elway has been wanting to get rid of him since day 1.

I think Manning would have a lot more fan support even after a bad game. I just happen to be in Denver form work and it's pretty crazy. They said in news shops who got jerseys in already sold out of $300 jerseys. Places have named menu items already. Manning mania seems like it has passed Tebow mania and he hasnt even do a single thing.
 
I hate to see fans put someone on a pedestal so high that the possibility of failure isn't conceivable.

And if/when they fail everyone who built the alter will grab their pitch forks and torches and take to the streets.

Crazy. :cuckoo:
 
I'm not sure I can see a lawsuit happening. Because essentially, they would be suing the NFL for the motives of players on opposing teams, and the fact that these players were proven to be dirty. We know guys like Suh and Haynesworth have been incredibly dirty players, and acted after plays were over, in order to injure other players. They weren't doing it for money, but is the money what the players would sue for? Because that seems irrelevant to me from the purpose of filing a lawsuit. Is it because it is sanctioned by the defensive coach? If so, why would the NFL be sued instead of the coach? If so, is the NFL responsible for coaches, but not players' behavior? If they are responsible for the actions of everyone employed by the NFL, then again, they could be sued for the actions of Suh, Haynesworth, James Harrison, and various others. If not, could those individuals could potentially be sued?

But ultimately, players would be suing someone because someone else attempted to injure them physically. And the precedent that would set could lead to multiple lawsuits every year of players of the past and currently would be lining up to try to prove that this player or that player intended to injure them. They've got microphones in players' helmets now (of both players' and coaches' smack talk). I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find evidence of threats of injury. I'm guessing there are clauses in NFL players' contracts--fair or no--that are going to prohibit any major lawsuits from happening.
 
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For once, I 100% agree with you. Someone's gonna have to help pull the knife out of Tebow's back. But karma's a mother. One nasty hit on Peyton and it's buh-bye...:wave

When was the last time that you've seen Peyton take a nasty hit? Tebow's not the last guy that needs a knife pulled out of his back. Just because he sold jerseys and brought the team back from despair. Doesn't mean that he earned the right to not be traded, or to be in the same class as Manning. If the league thought that highly of him. We would have gotten more than a 4th & 6th Rd. pick. Which is probably the rounds that he should've been taken in the first place.
 
And all it takes is 2 interceptions from Manning for the people to start crying for Tebow.... thats why he is gone. Elway has been wanting to get rid of him since day 1.

All I'm going to ask is, you think that he could have taken the Broncos or your favorite team to the SB?
 
I don't see where karma comes into play. The NFL is a business, and each team does the best it can to win from year to year. Sentimentality doesn't have a place in management decisions. But to IL's point, Peyton had one of the greatest pass protecting O-lines in the history of the NFL with him in Indy. We'll see what he gets in Denver!
 
He didn't take a lot of those in Indy but he had better o-line, was younger, didn't have 12 neck surgeries, and hasn't set out an entire year. These thing could all have an impact and change things as far as how much of a beating he might take. Plus it may be a fluke big hit he takes that does it.
 
Considering how long Tebow held on to the ball. I think that Manning's O'Line in Denver is in good shape. I do hope that they can get Jeff Saturday to be his center. That would also help his transition in Denver.
 
The biggest reston Manning didn't take big hits was himself. Sure a Oline has to be good but unless someone gets through untouched he regularly had the ball in the air before you could touch him.
 
Considering how long Tebow held on to the ball. I think that Manning's O'Line in Denver is in good shape. I do hope that they can get Jeff Saturday to be his center. That would also help his transition in Denver.

They didn't all out blitz Tebow much, I can only think of few times people did and none ended well for the team that blitzed. Protecting Tebow was easier because defense had to be careful not to open a running lane.
 
I'm not sure I can see a lawsuit happening. Because essentially, they would be suing the NFL for the motives of players on opposing teams, and the fact that these players were proven to be dirty. We know guys like Suh and Haynesworth have been incredibly dirty players, and acted after plays were over, in order to injure other players. They weren't doing it for money, but is the money what the players would sue for? Because that seems irrelevant to me from the purpose of filing a lawsuit. Is it because it is sanctioned by the defensive coach? If so, why would the NFL be sued instead of the coach? If so, is the NFL responsible for coaches, but not players' behavior? If they are responsible for the actions of everyone employed by the NFL, then again, they could be sued for the actions of Suh, Haynesworth, James Harrison, and various others. If not, could those individuals could potentially be sued?

But ultimately, players would be suing someone because someone else attempted to injure them physically. And the precedent that would set could lead to multiple lawsuits every year of players of the past and currently would be lining up to try to prove that this player or that player intended to injure them. They've got microphones in players' helmets now (of both players' and coaches' smack talk). I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find evidence of threats of injury. I'm guessing there are clauses in NFL players' contracts--fair or no--that are going to prohibit any major lawsuits from happening.


With Favre in particular though it's in the books that Vilma had a $10,000 bounty to get him out of the game. A bounty that was allowed by the orginization that was under the leagues umbrella and the hits he took resulted in him having to have surgery. Not only would he have a case but I think he'd win it.
 
But Tebow could move, and shrug potential tacklers off. Peyton? Not so much apart from shifting around in the pocket a little.

Oh Tebow is a man child playing QB. But I think that we would both agree that he'll (Peyton) still be able to ready defenses and get the ball out quick. Making that O-Line look better than it really is, and if the O-Line is really good we might not see Peyton get dirty for a couple games in a row. But I am with the majority, that I'll be holding my breath if he takes a BIG hit! It's the nervous that's the problem not the structure of the neck.
 
You guys are underestimating how good Manning is. They have had a chance to see him throw, and if he's even 80% of what he was he's a top 3 quarterback today. The guy makes everyone on the team better. Denver had no shot with Tebow and a once in a lifetime shot with Manning to possibly win it all for the next several years. Yeah he could get hurt, but so could every player that walks on the field every week.
 
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