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devilof76
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Lap dog? Oh, the irony...
I also find it absolutely hilarious that most of you guys are afraid of losing all your money because Obama wants to "spread the wealth" 
Most of you say your money goes to people that don't even pay taxes and blah blah blah. Gezus, you guys need to brush up on how difficult it actually is to survive on Government aid. Those people have to jump through hoops to get any money and when they do qualify for assistance they barely survive because the sum is so small. There are always circumstances that are beyond your awareness. Most Americans that qualify for assistance have a very legitimate need. Furthermore, how hypocritical are most of you anyway. Republicans go on about family values and helping those in need but when it's actually time to give back you all throw up your traditional pitch forks in protest. Selfish people. So being religious and going to Church really is just a front to feel good about yourselves. Maybe you'll throw a penny in the Salvation Army jar during Christmas time after you buy your 60 inch HDTV. Then you can go to your nice home in the suburbs where you will praise the birth of your savior but not follow his example.
Also, if you make more than 100 grand a year anyway then you already make much more than you need. I hope they tax the crap out of you guys because that's just the way it is. The Government is the one who wants your money for nothing. It's the "price" you pay to live in this country.
Most of you say your money goes to people that don't even pay taxes and blah blah blah. Gezus, you guys need to brush up on how difficult it actually is to survive on Government aid. Those people have to jump through hoops to get any money and when they do qualify for assistance they barely survive because the sum is so small. There are always circumstances that are beyond your awareness. Most Americans that qualify for assistance have a very legitimate need. Furthermore, how hypocritical are most of you anyway. Republicans go on about family values and helping those in need but when it's actually time to give back you all throw up your traditional pitch forks in protest. Selfish people. So being religious and going to Church really is just a front to feel good about yourselves. Maybe you'll throw a penny in the Salvation Army jar during Christmas time after you buy your 60 inch HDTV. Then you can go to your nice home in the suburbs where you will praise the birth of your savior but not follow his example.
Also, if you make more than 100 grand a year anyway then you already make much more than you need. I hope they tax the crap out of you guys because that's just the way it is. The Government is the one who wants your money for nothing. It's the "price" you pay to live in this country.
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devilof76
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I don't think the problem with taxes is general assistance welfare. It's everything else. Take the federal budget and subtract military costs and administration costs of the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches. What's leftover is what should not be spent.
It isn't even a matter of people who do not pay, receiving benefits. It's a matter of people who did not earn the money being able to dictate how and who will spend it. A person in the position of 'contributor' in this situation is a slave. Period. The person supporting the act is a slaver. Period. No different from a king, or a pope, or a protection racket thug.
I make $26,000 a year. In FICA alone, I lost $3000 last year. That does not include SSI and Medicare. I have enough self-respect to be indignant. I don't care what the intentions of the theives are. It's mine. I will decide what I'll do with what I earn, and no one else, unless they have guns and jails to force me to act otherwise.
What makes me laugh is people who insist that they believe that everyone should have a right to their own opinions, regardless of whether it's right or wrong, and then proceed to tell those who believe that their money is their own that they should be forcibly robbed. If they think their stance should be taken seriously, I think it's time someone informed them that their stance is a ^^^^ing joke.
It isn't even a matter of people who do not pay, receiving benefits. It's a matter of people who did not earn the money being able to dictate how and who will spend it. A person in the position of 'contributor' in this situation is a slave. Period. The person supporting the act is a slaver. Period. No different from a king, or a pope, or a protection racket thug.
I make $26,000 a year. In FICA alone, I lost $3000 last year. That does not include SSI and Medicare. I have enough self-respect to be indignant. I don't care what the intentions of the theives are. It's mine. I will decide what I'll do with what I earn, and no one else, unless they have guns and jails to force me to act otherwise.
What makes me laugh is people who insist that they believe that everyone should have a right to their own opinions, regardless of whether it's right or wrong, and then proceed to tell those who believe that their money is their own that they should be forcibly robbed. If they think their stance should be taken seriously, I think it's time someone informed them that their stance is a ^^^^ing joke.
I also find it absolutely hilarious that most of you guys are afraid of losing all your money because Obama wants to "spread the wealth"
Most of you say your money goes to people that don't even pay taxes and blah blah blah. Gezus, you guys need to brush up on how difficult it actually is to survive on Government aid. Those people have to jump through hoops to get any money and when they do qualify for assistance they barely survive because the sum is so small. There are always circumstances that are beyond your awareness. Most Americans that qualify for assistance have a very legitimate need. Furthermore, how hypocritical are most of you anyway. Republicans go on about family values and helping those in need but when it's actually time to give back you all throw up your traditional pitch forks in protest. Selfish people. So being religious and going to Church really is just a front to feel good about yourselves. Maybe you'll throw a penny in the Salvation Army jar during Christmas time after you buy your 60 inch HDTV. Then you can go to your nice home in the suburbs where you will praise the birth of your savior but not follow his example.
Also, if you make more than 100 grand a year anyway then you already make much more than you need. I hope they tax the crap out of you guys because that's just the way it is. The Government is the one who wants your money for nothing. It's the "price" you pay to live in this country.
devilof76
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I also find it absolutely hilarious that most of you guys are afraid of losing all your money because Obama wants to "spread the wealth"
Most of you say your money goes to people that don't even pay taxes and blah blah blah. Gezus, you guys need to brush up on how difficult it actually is to survive on Government aid. Those people have to jump through hoops to get any money and when they do qualify for assistance they barely survive because the sum is so small. There are always circumstances that are beyond your awareness. Most Americans that qualify for assistance have a very legitimate need. Furthermore, how hypocritical are most of you anyway. Republicans go on about family values and helping those in need but when it's actually time to give back you all throw up your traditional pitch forks in protest. Selfish people. So being religious and going to Church really is just a front to feel good about yourselves. Maybe you'll throw a penny in the Salvation Army jar during Christmas time after you buy your 60 inch HDTV. Then you can go to your nice home in the suburbs where you will praise the birth of your savior but not follow his example.
Also, if you make more than 100 grand a year anyway then you already make much more than you need. I hope they tax the crap out of you guys because that's just the way it is. The Government is the one who wants your money for nothing. It's the "price" you pay to live in this country.
Rory, I work for my money, 5 days a week, 9-5. I don't feel good about giving it away to a government that can't manage themselves efficiently. The last time I felt charitable was during Katrina. I gave $100 to the cause. Then come to find out that the government aid relief money was spent on tattoos, Caribbean vacations, and strip clubs. So yeah, you could say I'm a little skeptical at the government's ability to efficiently hand this money out to those that truly need it rather than those that would rather just wait for the next government "entitled" check or program to qualify for.
And who brought religion into this? Last church I was in sold chicken.
It's a really sad affair when the hard working entrepreneurs are punished for their success. Makes you just want to not try that hard anymore and get in line for gov't assistance as well.
How old are you if I may ask. The only reason I ask is whether or not you are out on your own and have a family or maybe going to school and living at home yet. I will respond more if I get an answerI also find it absolutely hilarious that most of you guys are afraid of losing all your money because Obama wants to "spread the wealth"
Most of you say your money goes to people that don't even pay taxes and blah blah blah. Gezus, you guys need to brush up on how difficult it actually is to survive on Government aid. Those people have to jump through hoops to get any money and when they do qualify for assistance they barely survive because the sum is so small. There are always circumstances that are beyond your awareness. Most Americans that qualify for assistance have a very legitimate need. Furthermore, how hypocritical are most of you anyway. Republicans go on about family values and helping those in need but when it's actually time to give back you all throw up your traditional pitch forks in protest. Selfish people. So being religious and going to Church really is just a front to feel good about yourselves. Maybe you'll throw a penny in the Salvation Army jar during Christmas time after you buy your 60 inch HDTV. Then you can go to your nice home in the suburbs where you will praise the birth of your savior but not follow his example.
Also, if you make more than 100 grand a year anyway then you already make much more than you need. I hope they tax the crap out of you guys because that's just the way it is. The Government is the one who wants your money for nothing. It's the "price" you pay to live in this country.
But who could vote against this:
"It puts the lotion in the basket!"
I am sorry but I don't agree with you at all on this issue. Do you really believe McCain will treat this issue any differently? We just had 8 years of this type of shenanigans from a Republican President- what did he promise before he was elected?
Do me a favor man, stop by a welfare office and see how well these people are doing on their "entitled" earnings. You will see people there who are handicapped, disabled, single parents trying to raise a family on their own... you know what else you will see? You will see every single one of them struggling to survive.
So if you want to give up your job and stand in line for gov't assistance then I think you have a surprise coming your way.
I feel as though the people screaming in protest towards Obamas "wealth sharing" plan are driven by fear, greed, and selfishness. They don't really have a grasp of what it's like not to have anything in life. Even if Obama was elected into office, do you guys really think the government will drive you into bankruptcy or something absurd like that? No, you will still be driving your fancy over priced car and still having everything you had before.
I honestly think people are a bunch of hypocrites. Most republicans don't want abortion to be legal yet they complain about higher taxes when the government needs to help these families with unwanted children. They all say they are good wholesome people yet if you take any of their 150k salary away to help society their pitch forks zoom straight up.
You all need to check your values because they are strongly conflicting with each other.
I also find it absolutely hilarious that most of you guys are afraid of losing all your money because Obama wants to "spread the wealth"
Most of you say your money goes to people that don't even pay taxes and blah blah blah. Gezus, you guys need to brush up on how difficult it actually is to survive on Government aid. Those people have to jump through hoops to get any money and when they do qualify for assistance they barely survive because the sum is so small. There are always circumstances that are beyond your awareness. Most Americans that qualify for assistance have a very legitimate need. Furthermore, how hypocritical are most of you anyway. Republicans go on about family values and helping those in need but when it's actually time to give back you all throw up your traditional pitch forks in protest. Selfish people. So being religious and going to Church really is just a front to feel good about yourselves. Maybe you'll throw a penny in the Salvation Army jar during Christmas time after you buy your 60 inch HDTV. Then you can go to your nice home in the suburbs where you will praise the birth of your savior but not follow his example.
Also, if you make more than 100 grand a year anyway then you already make much more than you need. I hope they tax the crap out of you guys because that's just the way it is. The Government is the one who wants your money for nothing. It's the "price" you pay to live in this country.
Idealistic and generalized.
Rory, why don't you put your money where your mouth is. Everyone on this board spends hundreds, if not thousands on collectibles we don't really need. So why don't you lead by example. Stop collecting what you do and instead, donate that money to charity.
Republicans of this board sounds more bitter by the day....They know they lost....in a couple of days, the American people will elected a great new president (obama)..Finally people of other countries will start respecting you again....American have finally come to their sense.
There's a good chance things won't turn out like you expect them to.
I usually don't vote but I think you guys have just inspired me to.
The fact that this man is rocking the boat makes me incredibly happy.
Not to mention that if he wins he will be the first black president... it will be a huge step forward for this country.
One more for Obama!
May he tax the crap out of people and send that "Maverick" soccer mom back to where she came from!
What's funny is, the majority of these people voted for 8 years of Bush yet they feel threatened by Obama. If anything they should apologize to the rest of us for electing such a moron, not once but twice.
I usually don't vote but I think you guys have just inspired me to.
The fact that this man is rocking the boat makes me incredibly happy.
Not to mention that if he wins he will be the first black president... it will be a huge step forward for this country.
One more for Obama!
May he tax the crap out of people and send that "Maverick" soccer mom back to where she came from!
What's funny is, the majority of these people voted for 8 years of Bush yet they feel threatened by Obama. If anything they should apologize to the rest of us for electing such a moron, not once but twice.
AP Poll: Obama leads or tied in 8 crucial states....
https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081029/ap_on_el_pr/ap_poll_battlegrounds
I have seen so many Obama stickers and signs around my area. Which is unusual because I live in a red state. In the previous election I saw countless 4 more years stickers and pro- Bush propaganda. The tide is changing. Hopefully the electoral college doesn't ^^^^ things up again. What an antiquated system.
https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081029/ap_on_el_pr/ap_poll_battlegrounds
I have seen so many Obama stickers and signs around my area. Which is unusual because I live in a red state. In the previous election I saw countless 4 more years stickers and pro- Bush propaganda. The tide is changing. Hopefully the electoral college doesn't ^^^^ things up again. What an antiquated system.
John Glenn (DEMOCRAT) said this ----- It should make us all think a little:
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city ofDetroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq .
When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, tell them the following :
FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us;Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... An average of 112,500 per year.
Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea . North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... An average of 18,334 per year.
John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.Vietnam never attacked us.
Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turnedVietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ... An average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war inBosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us.He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times bySudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
This one is a fact that makes me mad as hell.
In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.
But Wait, There's more.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound.That was a 51-day operation .
We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose law firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida !!!
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
But Wait ....There's more!
JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor - January 26, 2004)
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.
Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
'How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?'
Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): 'I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go with me, as I went the other day . .. To a veteran's hospital and look those men ... With their mangled bodies ... In the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!
You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee .. And you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DAD'S didn't hold a real job.
You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington NationalCemetery , where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags . You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you have the gall to tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
What about Metzenbaum? For those who don't remember During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA .
Now he's a Senator!
If you can read this, thank a teacher.If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city ofDetroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq .
When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, tell them the following :
FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us;Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... An average of 112,500 per year.
Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea . North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... An average of 18,334 per year.
John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.Vietnam never attacked us.
Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turnedVietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ... An average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war inBosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us.He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times bySudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
This one is a fact that makes me mad as hell.
In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.
But Wait, There's more.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound.That was a 51-day operation .
We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose law firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida !!!
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
But Wait ....There's more!
JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor - January 26, 2004)
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.
Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
'How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?'
Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): 'I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go with me, as I went the other day . .. To a veteran's hospital and look those men ... With their mangled bodies ... In the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!
You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee .. And you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DAD'S didn't hold a real job.
You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington NationalCemetery , where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags . You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you have the gall to tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
What about Metzenbaum? For those who don't remember During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA .
Now he's a Senator!
If you can read this, thank a teacher.If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.
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