Obamas tax plan

[LordAzrael]

As a observer from another country, I 've got one question, is there such a thing as a Black Republican ???

Yes

https://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYK-Why MLK was a Republican

Why Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican

By Frances Rice

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860's, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950's and 1960's.

https://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.BlackGOP&x=4989412

And they get their fair share of racist attacks from the Democrats

An Open Letter To Obama From Black Republicans

At a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida, Senator Barack Obama displayed his hypocrisy when he played the race card against Republicans, while whining that he expects Republicans to play the race card against him. This dishonest tactic is straight out of the Democratic Party’s race-baiting political playbook.

Since Obama wants the American people to believe he is disgusted by racism, we call upon Obama to condemn his fellow Democrats for their Jim Crow-style racist attacks against black Republicans because we do not adhere to the Democratic Party’s liberal agenda.

More specifically, we ask Obama to condemn Democrat Senator Joe Biden who boasted proudly on FOX News that his qualification to be president was enhanced because his home state of Delaware held blacks in human bondage. “You don’t know my state,” Biden crowed, “my state was a slave state. “ Imagine the media firestorm that would have ensued if a Republican had uttered such an outrageously racist comment.

We request that Obama denounce Democrat Senator Ted Kennedy who called black Republican judicial nominees, including Justice Janice Rogers Brown, "Neanderthals."

We ask Obama to condemn Democrat Senator Harry Reid who appeared on Meet the Press and attacked black Republican Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, demeaning the justice as an incompetent *****, incapable of writing good English. “Slap at Thomas stinks of racism,” was the headline of the New York Daily News’ December 7, 2004 editorial.

We request that Obama denounce the Democrats who threw Oreo cookies (black on the outside and white on the inside) onto the stage during an appearance of Maryland’s former Lieutenant Governor Michael Steele when he was seeking a seat in Congress.

We ask Obama to condemn the Democrat bloggers who posted a doctored photo of Michael Steel on the Internet, depicting him as a “Simple *****” with a Jim Crow-era “black face,” nappy hair and thick red lips.

We request that Obama denounce the two members of the Democratic Senatorial Committee (DSCC) who resigned in September 2005 after admitting they illegally obtained Michael Steele’s credit report in a violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act, a federal offense. The two culprits were Katie Barge, the DSCC’s research director who pled guilty to a misdemeanor, and her deputy, Lauren Weiner.

We ask Obama to condemn the Democrat talk show hosts and cartoonists who denigrated Dr. Condoleezza Rice after she was nominated to be the first black woman secretary of state. Democrat Pat Oliphant drew Dr. Rice as a big-lipped, buck-toothed squawking parrot, smearing her as an empty-headed stooge. Democrat Jeff Danzinger depicted Dr. Rice as a stereotyped “mammy,” barefoot and ignorant. Democrat Ted Rall referred to Dr. Rice as President Bush’s “House [N-word]”. Democrat John Sylvester characterized Dr. Rice on his radio talk show as a stupid, servile black woman, calling her an “Aunt Jemima”.

We request that Obama denounce Democrat Senator Robert Byrd, a former “Keagle” in the Ku Klux Klan, who led other Democrats, including Senators John Kerry and Barbara Boxer, in a filibuster of Dr. Rice’s confirmation when she appeared before the Senate for her confirmation hearing.

We ask Obama to apologize for writing a letter in support of former Klansman Democrat Senator Robert Byrd, considering the following facts about Byrd.

- In 2001, Byrd was forced to apologize for using the N-word on television.

- Byrd pushed to have the Senate’s main office building named after Democrat Senator Richard Russell, Byrd’s mentor and leading opponent of anti-lynching legislation.

- Byrd, along with Democrat Senators Sam Ervin and Albert Gore, Sr., was a chief opponent of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and filibustered against the bill for 14 straight hours before the final vote.

- Byrd, along with other racist Democrats, smeared Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. during the 1960’s. This racist attack on Dr. King was ongoing when Democrat President John F. Kennedy had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a communist in order to undermine Dr. King. The relentless disparagement of Dr. King by Democrats led to his being physically assaulted and ultimately to his tragic death. In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King's leaving Memphis, Tennessee after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Byrd called Dr. King a "trouble-maker" who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.

We request that Obama apologize to all black Americans for the Democratic Party’s 200-year history of racism against all black Americans as exposed in the books “Unfounded Loyalty” by Rev. Wayne Perryman and “A Short History of Reconstruction” by Dr. Eric Foner.

We ask Obama to embrace the 2006 report by the Commission appointed by North Carolina’s governor which uncovered facts that prompted the Democratic Party of North Carolina to pass a unanimous resolution apologizing for the Democratic Party’s role in the bloody 1898 Wilmington Race Riots where dozens of black Americans were massacred. That apology is on the Internet at: https://www.ncdp.org/node/1546 . In a letter to the North Carolina Democratic Party, Lt. Governor Richard H. Moore wrote: “We can no longer ignore the fact that many of us grew up being taught a much sanitized – and inaccurate – history…. The truth is ugly.”

If Obama refuses to condemn the Democrats for their racist past and current race-baiting against black Republicans, then what right does Obama have to preemptively accuse Republicans of using racism against him?

Submitted by Frances Rice, chairman of the National Black Republican Association. She may be contacted at: www.NBRA.info

 

[hoodonit00]

Question for DD. YOu seem to be up to speed on the Obama tax plan. School me on it a little bit, maybe I'm reading it wrong. This is from his site.

Obama’s plan will cut taxes overall, reducing revenues to below the levels that prevailed under Ronald Reagan (less than 18.2 percent of GDP). The Obama tax plan is a net tax cut – his tax relief for middle class families is larger than the revenue raised by his tax changes for families over $250,000. Coupled with his commitment to cut unnecessary spending, Obama will pay for this tax relief while bringing down the budget deficit.

Isn't he saying that the Govt. will be giving out more money on tax relief for the middle class, then they will be bringing in by the tax hike? What kind of business plan is succesful if you pay out more then you bring in?

 

[EVILFACE]

Hussein isn't going to win, so it doesn't really matter.

 

[Adoptedscot]

Adoptedscot ... You're a monster! j/k

x

 

[LordAzrael]

https://www.nypost.com/seven/10292008/news/politics/biden_blows_fuzzy_tax_math_135787.htm

Gaffe-prone Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth again yesterday, mistakenly excluding millions of Americans from his running mate's tax-cut proposal.

The Delaware senator's latest blunder came while discussing Republican tax policies during a television interview in his hometown of Scranton, Pa.

"What we're saying is, that $87 billion tax break doesn't need to go to people making an average of $1.4 million," Biden said.

"It should go to middle-class people, people who make $150,000 a year."

Actually, Barack Obama has promised to cut taxes on households earning less than $200,000 a year while raising taxes on those who make more than $250,000 annually.

John McCain quickly cashed in on the slip.

During a rally in Hershey, Pa., McCain told supporters the gaffe revealed the Democrats' true tax-and-spend intentions.

"It's interesting how their definition of 'rich' has a way of creeping down," McCain said.

"Senator Obama has made a lot of promises. First, he said people making less than $250,000 would benefit from his plan.

"Then, this weekend, he announced in an ad that if you're a family making less than $200,000 you'll benefit - but yesterday right here in Pennsylvania, Senator Biden said tax relief should only go to 'middle-class people' - people making under $150,000 a year.

"At this rate, it won't be long before Senator Obama is right back to his vote that Americans making just $42,000 a year should get a tax increase.

"We can't let that happen," McCain added.

The Republican nominee has pounded Obama on taxes recently as economic woes have come to dominate the political debate.

Biden's tax faux pas provided a new distraction for Obama as he tried to focus on broad, uplifting themes, like "change" and "hope," in the final week of swing-state stumping.

Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor issued a statement that corrected the vice-presidential candidate without explicitly saying so.

"No family making less than $250,000 will see their tax increases one cent," Vietor said. "And if your family makes less than $200,000 - as 95 percent of workers and their families do - you'll get a tax cut."

Vietor went on to call McCain's attack on Biden "desperate."

"Maybe the McCain campaign keeps lying about Obama's tax plan because with seven days left in this election, voters are rejecting McCain's plan to give billions more in tax giveaways to big corporations and the wealthiest Americans," he said.

Also during the stop in Hershey, McCain took a moment to shrug off reports of discord between his campaign staff and his running mate, Sarah Palin.

"By the way, when two mavericks join up, we don't agree on everything," McCain said. "But that's a lot of fun! It's wonderful to fool the pundits." With Post Wire Services

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[LChinoz]

What if the SSF Forum becomes THE political board in the future? A forum about toys will take the crown from Politico and Huffingtonpost!

That said...let me contribute to the thread with this:

GOBAMA '08!

 

[Mesa]

Saying an Obama presidency will limit personal freedoms is inconceivable considering that Republicans want to take away the right for a woman to decide what she can do with her own body and who a person can marry.

I anticipate stricter gun control / bans as well as infringing on freedom of speech ("Fairness" Doctrine).

I'm with you on the pro-choice and no gov't intervention on further definition of marriage.

 

[LChinoz]

I anticipate stricter gun control / bans as well as infringing on freedom of speech ("Fairness" Doctrine).

I'm with you on the pro-choice and no gov't intervention on further definition of marriage.

Maybe you're on the wrong side

 

[Darklord Dave]

I anticipate stricter gun control / bans as well as infringing on freedom of speech ("Fairness" Doctrine).

I'm with you on the pro-choice and no gov't intervention on further definition of marriage.

You'd think a Republican would want to reinstate the "Fairness" Doctrine - then all these leftist media outlets would have to supply an opposing viewpoint.

As for gun control Obama's record has been pretty middle of the road - voting for waiting periods and background checks but saying unequivocally he does not support outlawing handguns. Although he does support reinstating the assault weapons ban.

 

[Mesa]

You'd think a Republican would want to reinstate the "Fairness" Doctrine - then all these leftist media outlets would have to supply an opposing viewpoint.

As for gun control Obama's record has been pretty middle of the road - voting for waiting periods and background checks but saying unequivocally he does not support outlawing handguns. Although he does support reinstating the assault weapons ban.

Nope, "news" agencies are excluded from fairness doctrine because they are a "news" outlet to deliver news. Whereas talk radio is determined, by the gov't officials, to just be a matter of opinion. It's a bunch of BS, because last time I tuned into CNBC there was certainly more than just "news" being offered.

 

[hoodonit00]

Question for DD. YOu seem to be up to speed on the Obama tax plan. School me on it a little bit, maybe I'm reading it wrong. This is from his site.

Obama’s plan will cut taxes overall, reducing revenues to below the levels that prevailed under Ronald Reagan (less than 18.2 percent of GDP). The Obama tax plan is a net tax cut – his tax relief for middle class families is larger than the revenue raised by his tax changes for families over $250,000. Coupled with his commitment to cut unnecessary spending, Obama will pay for this tax relief while bringing down the budget deficit.

Isn't he saying that the Govt. will be giving out more money on tax relief for the middle class, then they will be bringing in by the tax hike? What kind of business plan is succesful if you pay out more then you bring in?

BUMP. DD, can you explain this for me?

 

[hoodonit00]

As for gun control Obama's record has been pretty middle of the road - voting for waiting periods and background checks but saying unequivocally he does not support outlawing handguns. Although he does support reinstating the assault weapons ban.

https://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm

https://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=3991
I know, NRA website but the links are there at the bottom.

 

[Darklord Dave]

https://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm

https://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=3991
I know, NRA website but the links are there at the bottom.

Not that I respond to net bullying - but you answered the question about the tax plan. He'll pay for it with increases on the higher income sectors and the line item elimination of programs. He's said as much in the debates.

Re gun control -from one of the pages you cited:

Obama said: I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions.

 

[hoodonit00]

Not that I respond to net bullying - but you answered the question about the tax plan. He'll pay for it with increases on the higher income sectors and the line item elimination of programs. He's said as much in the debates.

Re gun control -from one of the pages you cited:

What bullying? I asked before and didn't get an answer so I figured you missed it and bumped it. He said on his site that he will be cutting more taxes on the lower and middle classes then he is bringing in from those 250,000 or more? How does this add up?

 

[Anzik]

Lets not forget the 85% tax on guns he wants.

 

[hoodonit00]

Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, "No, my writing wasn't on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns."
Actually, Obama's writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:

35. Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

No matter who is in office, things will stay the same or get worse, i'm afraid. Doubt either of the two will make a difference. Time to start buying guns!! canned foods are good as well!

MMMMMmmmmmm Spam!

 

[Brent72]

Also, if you make more than 100 grand a year anyway then you already make much more than you need. I hope they tax the crap out of you guys because that's just the way it is. The Government is the one who wants your money for nothing. It's the "price" you pay to live in this country.

If you're actually saying this seriously, I am beyond speechless.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, "No, my writing wasn't on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns."
Actually, Obama's writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:

35. Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.

You didn't read the whole entry - a low-level office employee filled it out and they said it did not reflect Obama's position.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

I don't why the who is going to win thread was closed but here was my response. Well, I don't have faith in people so I am going with my gut...McCain. Yeah I know it contradicts my avatar but then again I never would have thought the words like nine eleven would have given W. a second (stolen) term. Then again John Kerry sucked, so Scott fear not my interfriend, retribution come next week. I don't want Pix to be right but I don't see whitey pulling the trigger in the booth for Obama which is kind of sad. Let's just get back to collectibles and drop all this political BS.