Obi-Wan's Production Photos Posted

[The Josh]

Looking forward to WOR-GARS KINKY KITCHEN!!!!

What no love for the doily? J/k

 

[anti-hero]

Kitchen beats doily which beats swingset which beats kitchen.

It's like our own version of rock paper scissors.

 

[The Josh]

Kitchen beats doily which beats swingset which beats kitchen.

It's like our own version of rock paper scissors.

Man, we got some kinky folks here then.

 

[carbo-fation]

I can't read anymore.....you guys write too much!

 

[kain4521]

I think Obi Wan will turn out fine SS has not let me down yet and I have been collecting their stuff since the uni days.

 

[pjam]

Ok, this guy saw it in person and here's his report...

there's a chain of stores in Singapore that is a distributor locally for sideshow stuff
they brought it in, and it arrived coupla days back, on the 5th?
actually,right in front you,the fig is not all THAT bad, i'd say, IMHO its the same quality as the production piece for luke.the wrinkles are still there,albeit faint, the skin's got a sligggggghhhhht pinkish hue, the hair looks a lil lighter,not the dark muddy mess we all saw.
as with the other figs, i'd wait out till i have em in hand,before makin snap decisions to cancel orders.
it's not perfect, but neither is it terrible...seriously, the pics on the ssc webbie really DON'T do the fig justice..come on, where's the love for OB1?
haha!

i'll be gettin mine soon to duel with my sith anakin.i even drew ani (avatar) to uh....'commemorate the uh....coming of OB1'

Ok so you saw it in person and say it's not all THAT bad...

That doesn't sound all THAT good to me...

This sounds like another Anakin-type paint job...

 

[Darth Loki]

I'm honestly surprised that no one from SS has chimed in here to put us at ease.

 

[IrishJedi]

I'm honestly surprised that no one from SS has chimed in here to put us at ease.

Why would they? They're seeing the same things we are (and some of the same issues the Anakin paint apps had, which they openly lamented).

What I want to know is whether or not anything can be done at all about these subpar paint apps. And, if so, what the heck is SSC waiting for?

As someone said, the drop-off between the Obi-Wan that was shown at SDCC and these production pics may be recall worthy.

Master Replicas recalled all of their Clone Trooper and Darth Vader helmets when their factory produced subpar paint apps. And that cost them a LOT more time and money that it would for SSC to have better QC on these 12" figures.

Bottom line, there are a few things that are holding back the potential greatness of these figures, and the factory paint apps are at the top of that list.

 

[Agent23]

What cracks me up is folks commenting on how bad it looks yet they aren't collecting these at all. Why bother?

Then why do you bother Josh, when you comment on something you don't collect? Probably for the same reasons others do. Good, bad, or indifferent.

Because, it's your opinion and entitled to it.

 

[Matt S]

Wow! I have never heard of a company recalling collectible items. I know that will never happen with Sideshow given the pure volume of these, but darn it, something needs to be corrected.

My fear with them is this: when I call their customer service to complain about a damaged box, they tell me the percentage of people that actually have any issues is very small. *So,* I am afraid they will apply this rationale too with us: the percentage of people that actually do not like the subpar paint apps is very small!

I hope they take this seriously, because Anakin and Ob-Wan are major characters - two that needed to be 'homeruns' in this very young line.

 

[pjam]

Why would they? They're seeing the same things we are (and some of the same issues the Anakin paint apps had, which they openly lamented).

What I want to know is whether or not anything can be done at all about these subpar paint apps. And, if so, what the heck is SSC waiting for?

As someone said, the drop-off between the Obi-Wan that was shown at SDCC and these production pics may be recall worthy.

Master Replicas recalled all of their Clone Trooper and Darth Vader helmets when their factory produced subpar paint apps. And that cost them a LOT more time and money that it would for SSC to have better QC on these 12" figures.

Bottom line, there are a few things that are holding back the potential greatness of these figures, and the factory paint apps are at the top of that list.

Obi has very light brown hair, the proto had Obi with very light brown hair, the display piece had Obi with very light brown hair

The production piece does not, what is going on here?

I think SSC should seriously consider recalling this product, sending the heads back to China and telling them to ship the product they showed, sold and displayed for us. I don't think anyone who really wants this would have a problem waiting a couple more months to get a corrected Obi.

After repeating the Anakin mistakes there is now a "trust in quality issue" that is damaging their reputation IMO and it is not fair to SSC to take this hit over paint apps failures when they get everything else right...

 

[abake]

I still don't understand that "production pieces will never look as good as prototypes" philosophy.
You just need to take a look at DML prototypes and the production pieces: they are identical, no changes in the paint apps.
Same goes for the Luke and Vader figures I've bought from Medicom (and yes, there are paint apps).
And the point is Sideshow's paint apps are not as good as stuff that is coming out from other 1/6 companies, like DID, DML or BBI. And those companies are not charging you more than what Sideshow does.
That, of course, in my very humble opinion.

Obi Wan looks pretty good to me and I'm happy to have him on pre-order. But I do believe the paint apps are not up to par with the companies I mentioned above.

 

[IrishJedi]

I think SSC should seriously consider recalling this product, sending the heads back to China and telling them to ship the product they showed, sold and displayed for us. I don't think anyone who really wants this would have a problem waiting a couple more months to get a corrected Obi.

I agree. Especially since we already waited that long for them to fix the color of his robes (yet still botch the paint apps on the head).

After repeating the Anakin mistakes there is now a "trust in quality issue" that is damaging their reputation IMO and it is not fair to SSC to take this hit over paint apps failures when they get everything else right...

Again, agreed. I am actually stunned that they allowed Obi-Wan to come out like this... especially after what happened with the Anakin figure.

 

[jedibear]

Okay, I guess I will get labelled a "SS Cheerleader" here, but take a look at those photos. The first one looks like it was done by a professional photographer.. or at least someone who knew what they were doing. Minimal flash to his face to avoid the skin texture looking washed out. Good shadowing to emphasis the facial details. Etc. Now look at the "infamous" production photo. Obi looks like he just look directly into the Ark of the Covenant for heaven's sake. I hate to insult someone I do not know, but Sideshow needs to get a new photographer. I realize that the figure A.) is going to be lower quality than a hand-painted proto and B.) the color is much darker. However, I really doubt it is as bad as the photographs make it look. As Micheal Crawford can attest, lighting and such can drastically alter a photo image.

I think DouglasMcc has a good point here about the huge difference not only between the figures themselves, but between the pictures and their quality. The "natural" (well, as natural as a huge convention hall can be) photo is much more flattering to the figure, right down to the shadows cast on his chest from his chin. I'm looking forward to the flood of pictures from our regular ace photographers when this guy starts showing up.
There's no denying there is a HUGE difference between the SDCC figure and the prod one.
Would I rather have the tanned, blond, more subtle-featured SDCC looking one? You bet! But like the other figures before him, I'll reserve final judgement until he's sitting on display in my studio with Anakin...
And IrishJedi's points are also well-taken...it's pretty jarring to see such a turnaround in quality between what we're sold on and what we get. I am enjoying this collection (warts n' all) so far but would welcome SS closing that gap a bit...I was hoping after the long delay that this one would've been knocked out of the park, but instead, it's looking like it bounced of the fence and made it as far as the outfield....

I'll keep a candle lit for Maul......wait a minute...is that the UPS truck rumbling outside? Woo-hoo! Mace is here!

 

[The Josh]

Then why do you bother Josh, when you comment on something you don't collect? Probably for the same reasons others do. Good, bad, or indifferent.

Because, it's your opinion and entitled to it.

I don't come in and rag on a piece though. I might make a comment that I like it but this isn't my thing. I don't recall me going in and saying something is bad, horrible, etc when I wasn't collecting that line.

Again, I said nothing about anyone not being entitled to their opinion. Someday people will learn this I would hope. I'm entitled to my opinion but basically keep it to myself when I don't like something. Especially when I don't collect it.

 

[pjam]

I agree. Especially since we already waited that long for them to fix the color of his robes (yet still botch the paint apps on the head).


Again, agreed. I am actually stunned that they allowed Obi-Wan to come out like this... especially after what happened with the Anakin figure.

It's not that big of a deal really, just recalling the heads and drybrushing the hair to more accurately represent the product sold would make a huge difference in the eyes of many collectors, apparently 50% of them according to the poll, that is a huge number to risk disappointing.

 

[Khev]

It's not that big of a deal really, just recalling the heads

Anakin's production paint apps were worse, he is THE most important figure of the entire prequel trilogy, and he wasn't recalled. What makes you think SS would consider doing that for Obi-Wan?

 

[LOTRFan]

I am really glad I don't collect this line, wow, that looks nothing like the figure in San Diego did. Shame too, that had to be the best likeness of the bunch.

 

[pjam]

Anakin's production paint apps were worse, he is THE most important figure of the entire prequel trilogy, and he wasn't recalled. What makes you think SS would consider doing that for Obi-Wan?

Because Anakin was considered a "one time" mistake and most let it slide knowing/expecting Obi would never in anyone's wildest dreams be a problem -- this repeated paint apps failure now creates a 'trust issue' with such an important and beloved character and creates an emotional disconnect between SSC and collectors, one which I think they should address ASAP or risk disappointing a huge client base.

 

[IrishJedi]

Because Anakin was considered a "one time" mistake and most let it slide knowing/expecting Obi would never in anyone's wildest dreams be a problem -- this repeated paint apps failure now creates a 'trust issue' with such an important and beloved character and creates an emotional disconnect between SSC and collectors, one which I think they should address ASAP or risk disappointing a huge client base.

Exactly!

Besides, Obi-Wan > Anakin. Not only the character, but the sculpt.