Obi-Wan's Production Photos Posted

[pixletwin]

....If we're going to attack somebody, let's attack the gal who painted Obi-Wan!!!

Or the gal who photographed him for Sideshow (sorry whoever you are).

 

[The Josh]

I think I may...

Wor-Gar let me hold you like I did back on Naboo.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Wor-Gar let me hold you like I did back on Naboo.

 

[Batty]

Irish I appreciate that. You're top notch in my book. Just because we don't see eye 2 eye doesn't mean we can't be friends.

I think I may...

 

[RoboDad]

Wor-Gar let me hold you like I did back on Naboo.

OK, that's just waaaaaaay too much information!

 

[pjam]

I think I may...

I just did, feel much better now, thanks.

 

[Coheteboy]

OMG what happened to this board? There's like 5 million threads about obi-wan. Do I post on the one that started it all? Do I voice my exact same thoughs in another thread for the non-haters... even though I was a non-hater to begin with? It's all the same to me. I'll just stay out of all of the conversation until I get mine. Seriously too much to read. Me head hurts.

 

[TOE]

Thnx Toe!!

Hey, how come I don't get the heart like Tom or Wor did?

 

[Wor-Gar]

I think I may...

Uh-oh! I think I may...

 

[abake]

The only points I am trying to make are: a) Proto paint apps will never measure up to prod. It will never happen. I understand the reasoning behind this. I accept it. I also don't think what we have seen in production paint apps is as horrible as some of you want everyone to acknowledge. b) When you are judging Obi-Wan at this point, you are only judging the photo - which is a bad photo to begin with.

I am not arguing semantics. What it all boils down to is this: Some of us have higher expectations then we should. Those of us who are grounded in reality are happier and content with what is presented or are waiting to base our opinions on what lies before our own eyes.

Again, it is not impossible to have great prototypes that end up being great production pieces. Just head over to DML's website and then check some online stores and compare the pics of the prototypes on DML's site to the pics of the actual figures on sites like Monkeydepot.
You may not like DML's choice of finish (some say the figures are way too pale and have a pasty look), but regardless of that, the prototype looks exactly like the production piece.
I'm judging Obi Wan's photo because SST's track record has not led me to expect major differences. As I said, I don't think it's terrible, it's just below average for me when comparing to what other 1/6 companies are doing.
I just don't agree with having to lower my expectations instead of expecting more from a company that makes its living selling "high end" collectibles. I really don't see the logic in that.
I'm sorry, but to me that is not being grounded in reality.
Just look around, ask for more, better products and companies actually start delivering more and better products.
For WWII collectors, in the beginning there was Hasbro.
Then we all gasped when 21st Century released their line of accesories and later boxed figures, which simply blew Hasbro away.
Then the BIG D (DML) showed up. With a much better articulated body, very well researched subjects and great attention to detail and blew Hasbro and 21st away.
Then BBI showed up and started using metal for helmets and faux leather for accesories and put a dent on DML's sales.
Big D came back with all new patterns, new sculpts, better paint apps, etc.
Then DID showed up with real leather boots (mass produced!), real wood and the fight is still on with DML and DID fighting it out for the preferences of the collectors.
They went to the boards, listened to the fans, kept improving their product.
Nowadays we're in a golden age of WWII collecting.
All because the consumer expected more and voiced their collective opinion vehemently.
Production pieces need not look worse than prototypes. SST does not have to have worse paint apps than other 1/6 scale companies.
That is reality.

 

[Khev]

Wor-Gar let me hold you like I did back on Naboo.

"Are you a Sideshow prototype?"

"What?"

"They're sculpted on the moons of Iago...I think. They have the most beautiful paint apps ever."

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

"Are you a Sideshow prototype?"

"What?"

"They're sculpted on the moons of Iago...I think. They have the most beautiful paint apps ever."

Now that's some funny poodoo.

 

[pixletwin]

....All because the consumer expected more and voiced their collective opinion vehemently. Production pieces need not look worse than prototypes. SST does not have to have worse paint apps than other 1/6 scale companies.
That is reality.

Well said abake. I am all for improvements. Nowhere have I written that I don't want improvements (who here wouldn't?). What I am saying is people don't need to go all chicken little over a figure that almost noone has in hand or indeed have even seen with their own eyes (and those who have seen it have said that it is better in person than the prod. pics would lead one to believe).

That is all. Me go home now and throw up from my migraine.

 

[abake]

Well said abake. I am all for improvements. Nowhere have I written that I don't want improvements (who here wouldn't?). What I am saying is people don't need to go all chicken little over a figure that almost noone has in hand or indeed have even seen with their own eyes (and those who have seen it have said that it is better in person than the prod. pics would lead one to believe).

That is all. Me go home now and throw up from my migraine.

BTW, don't head over to monkeydepot! The pics look like crap!
Have a scotch, it helps me with the migraine! I'm going to have one...
Cheers.

 

[JohnyBoo]

I saw the Obi Wan in San Diego and I kept going back to look at him. I swear he looked real. I would like for my figure to look like that one but I really never expected the production figure to look like the proto one. I am a good painter and I am going to try to get mine as close to the proto one as I can. Even if I had never seen the proto figure I would still want the production figure because that sculpt is amazing. Since I will not be reselling my figure the paint job isn't killing me because I can alter it. Those who are collecting for value I can see why they would be upset, because if they alter it the value will go down.

Maybe I will get one off the production line that someone took extra time with because they got to work early or there was a shift contest to see who could paint the best that day. This has got to be frustrating for SS I would think.

 

[Mookeylama]

agreed that the hair/beard are to dark but that's VERY easy to fix w/ some drybrushing. i just hope they fix the eyes because they are harder to fix. for me anyway.

BTW, are the SS heads totally painted? like if i try and remove the paint from the eyes to fix them myself, do i run the risk of removing his face paint also? thanks

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

agreed that the hair/beard are to dark but that's VERY easy to fix w/ some drybrushing. i just hope they fix the eyes because they are harder to fix. for me anyway.

BTW, are the SS heads totally painted? like if i try and remove the paint from the eyes to fix them myself, do i run the risk of removing his face paint also? thanks

Yup, the heads are fully painted.

 

[The Josh]

OK, that's just waaaaaaay too much information!

Hey, how come I don't get the heart like Tom or Wor did?

Sorry toe

 

[The Josh]

"Are you a Sideshow prototype?"

"What?"

"They're sculpted on the moons of Iago...I think. They have the most beautiful paint apps ever."

 

[JustinLuck]

I think if your repaint looks good, then the value would not go down and it might even go up.