Official Hobbit 2010 Casting Thread...

[Atom Hues]

It's fun to postulate WHERE you could stop The Hobbit, Part 1, and leave a break for the second film. I guess it depends on where in the narrative you add, say, the White Council stuff, or the Dol Goldur bits.

Since Jackson seems to like to end his LOTR film on high-action notes, I wonder if the last act of The Hobbit, Part 1 would be Gandalf leaving the dwarves & Bilbo at the edge of Mirkwood. The action set-piece of Gandalf & the White Council evicting the Necromancer from Dol Goldur, intercut with Bilbo & the dwarves fighting the giant spiders and then getting captured by the Wood-Elves of Mirkwood might make for a really thrilling last act of a film.

That leaves the escape from the Wood-Elves, Laketown, Lonely Mountain & the Destruction of Smaug, and the Battle of Five Armies for the second Hobbit flick.

It'd be interesting to hear everyone's ideas on how The Hobbit could be cut into two films!

 

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[carbo-fation]

OMG!!!!!!! IS that a real preview Adam?!??!?!!?

 

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OMG!!!!!!! IS that a real preview Adam?!??!?!!?

Goodness, no. That's just what you get when I have a sandwich for dinner, a 1/6 scale ToyBiz Bilbo, Photoshop, and lotsa cool HOBBIT movie buzz!

 

[carbo-fation]

Goodness, no. That's just what you get when I have a sandwich for dinner, a 1/6 scale ToyBiz Bilbo, Photoshop, and lotsa cool HOBBIT movie buzz!

I just about lost it! If this were true, sideshow would really make my New Year.

 

[Anzik]

Thats just mean.

 

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Sorry, I wasn't trying to mislead anyone. I was just trying to blow off a little of this Hobbit movie excitement.

For all involved, Sideshow had nothing to do with that Bilbo action figure. It's the ToyBiz 1/6 scale Bilbo from 2002.

Which, BTW, was probably the best 12" LOTR figure they made. Looks just like Ian Holm's Bilbo.

My aplogies for any confusion!

 

[RoboDad]

It may end up happening the way you say, but none of the "official" news available so far supports that theory. It seems more likely based on what news we've had (and much more palatable to me, at least) that they will make The Hobbit as a standalone film (with, perhaps, a brief interlude to explain what Gandalf is up to when he leaves Bilbo's adventure), and then have the remaining story of the White Council, Dol Guldur, and other events in their own film.

Here's a great summarization of what we have been "officially" told so far:

https://www.kristinthompson.net/blog/?p=159

 

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It may end up happening the way you say, but none of the "official" news available so far supports that theory. It seems more likely based on what news we've had (and much more palatable to me, at least) that they will make The Hobbit as a standalone film (with, perhaps, a brief interlude to explain what Gandalf is up to when he leaves Bilbo's adventure), and then have the remaining story of the White Council, Dol Guldur, and other events in their own film.

Here's a great summarization of what we have been "officially" told so far:

https://www.kristinthompson.net/blog/?p=159

Okeydoke.

I read the article you gave the URL for. Thanks for providing more info. It contained a lot I hadn't heard that wasn't just a rumor (meaning, someone said they 'heard' stuff like this, but couldn't quote anything resembling a source). OK, The Hobbit and a sequel that covers events in between The Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring. Gotcha. No problem there.

All I was trying to do was clarify some folks who seemed to be jumping to conclusions about the films. I thought they were assuming stuff, and it seems they were either assuming correctly, or had read all the literature.

It was just some fun conjecture, imagining in what ways that supplemental material could be included into the narrative of The Hobbit. And I was just trying to explain to some folk about the other sources of info for additional material that could be included in one or both of the films.

 

[Anzik]

Adam I was just kidding.

It would be cool to see a 1/6 Bilbo but we need to see who's cast.

 

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Adam I was just kidding.

It would be cool to see a 1/6 Bilbo but we need to see who's cast.

I know you were, but as an artist who works for Sideshow, I actually have to cover my tracks to make SURE that someone out there doesn't think I'm actually leaking a pre-order JPEG or something.

I actually have to pay attention to the fact that I'm a fan who is also a creator, and sometimes my fan actions can be mistaken as professional actions.

Sigh. Kinda sucks the fun outta doin' cool stuff sometimes....

 

[RoboDad]

Okeydoke.

I read the article you gave the URL for. Thanks for providing more info. It contained a lot I hadn't heard that wasn't just a rumor (meaning, someone said they 'heard' stuff like this, but couldn't quote anything resembling a source). OK, The Hobbit and a sequel that covers events in between The Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring. Gotcha. No problem there.

All I was trying to do was clarify some folks who seemed to be jumping to conclusions about the films. I thought they were assuming stuff, and it seems they were either assuming correctly, or had read all the literature.

It was just some fun conjecture, imagining in what ways that supplemental material could be included into the narrative of The Hobbit. And I was just trying to explain to some folk about the other sources of info for additional material that could be included in one or both of the films.

That's cool. I know many people would prefer to see it done the way you are speculating. Personally, I would prefer the other approach. I don't want to see "The Hobbit" end up as the "plot B" element of the story, which it could easily end up becoming in the entire White Council / Dol Guldur / Sauron sets up housekeeping in Mordor / Birth of Frodo scheme of things. Only time will tell what they really end up doing.

 

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That's cool. I know many people would prefer to see it done the way you are speculating. Personally, I would prefer the other approach. I don't want to see "The Hobbit" end up as the "plot B" element of the story, which it could easily end up becoming in the entire White Council / Dol Guldur / Sauron sets up housekeeping in Mordor / Birth of Frodo scheme of things. Only time will tell what they really end up doing.

That actually makes sense.

My only big gripe about the Two Towers film is that it feels like a movie about Gollum and Aragorn. Everytime they cut back to Sam & Frodo, I felt like "Oh, yeah. We're supposed to be getting RID of the Ring. I almost forgot..." The overall story had left the 'Frodocentric' narrative that carried through Fellowship.

I can now see the precedence for concern that Bilbo's adventure might end up getting the narrative short-shrift if it has to share screen-time with hell-bent-for-leather White Council action....

-Adam

 

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if it has to share screen-time with hell-bent-for-leather White Council action....

THAT brings to mind a great name for the second Hobbit film: Force 10 From Rivendell.

 

[The Dwimmerlaik]

Hey, i dont know if this has already been said but when i saw the Golden Compass i thought that the king of the Gyptians (John Faa) could be an good Thorin or Balin he act pretty well.