Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[CelticPredator]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

Because they never focus on the characters. To hell with the creatures. The characters are important, and should come first.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

AvP: Prey needs to be made if they try another AvP film.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

It kinda was. And while Machkio and Broken Tusk's team up was more developed, and made more sense, I don't think it could work on screen.

Still, they should just make it more about the people. Keep the Alien and Predator stuff in the background until the end. And then give them a real battle. That way, you can have a few little scuffles in the middle, but build up the characters so you care about them, and then have them get picked off...or whatever. The Aliens and Predators are the villains.

They should stay that way.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

I can't remember anythying they shared other than the ____ty Lexa/Scar team-up.

I'm sure someone very talented and experienced could make the Predator > Predator interaction work...

The story was great and deserves to be seen on screen.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

It was a good story. I enjoyed it. But I don't know...i'd like to see something new to be honest with it.

 

[crows]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

It kinda was. And while Machkio and Broken Tusk's team up was more developed, and made more sense, I don't think it could work on screen.

Still, they should just make it more about the people. Keep the Alien and Predator stuff in the background until the end. And then give them a real battle. That way, you can have a few little scuffles in the middle, but build up the characters so you care about them, and then have them get picked off...or whatever. The Aliens and Predators are the villains.

They should stay that way.

April Fool's?
or
seriously are you insane of something? that's the problem with Predators, they took too long for the Preds to do anything, if anything the AVP movie should be from the point of view of either the aliens or the predator, and the humans just being the victims, of course you need some character development,

but BOTH AVP and AVPR spend a good 30 minutes with the humans alone, and most of the movies are from the humans' point of view, the pred is not the main focus on either one,

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

The Alien movies were never about the creatures. At least until Alien Res.

That's why I liked Predators. Character development. Poor, not great, halfway decent character development, but at least they tried.

The only way the creatures work, is if you have characters you care about, and root for. Like in Aliens. Did Aliens not work?

 

[furystorm]

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Aliens rocked.

Alien was the best film ever made, in my opinion.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

Agreed. But Aliens was good because of the characters...no?

Not the creatures themselves.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

We naturally feel more connected to humans..and it impacts us more when we get to know them and see how they react in the movies I guess. It makes the A/P feel more like what they're supposed to be..terrifying alien monsters trying to kill us. Because we're looking at it through the point of view of the humans, of US.

The humans make the A/P what they are. Without those human characters for us to relate to, care about, etc..the A/P wouldn't really have much effect on us...idunno

But......I do feel that we have already seen this, we know how it goes down..and we're ready (I am atleast..) for somthing with more of the Predators' PoV..like Prey. I think it could work very well if done right..and it's nothing TOO extreme. We still have human characters who play big roles..etc.

..You can't have a movie from the aliens' PoV though..they're mindless animalistic killing machines. They don't really have a PoV..

 

[Darth Vader]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

They showed the Peter Weyland ted talk on the science channel it was quite awesome how after it then they showed the regular movie trailer.

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

Agreed. But Aliens was good because of the characters...no?

Not the creatures themselves.

It was good bcuz everything about this movie is good.

 

[sithjedi171]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

I told my wife if we don't see anything else in the theater in 2012 we're seeing this and TDKR

 

[Kiva]

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It was good bcuz everything about this movie is good.

I think Aliens is potentially the best scifi movie ever made BUT it suffers with a bit of formula stealing from Alien. At first glance they are total different movies. but the end 20 minutes are essentially the same. Mad maze running whilst there is a destruction countdown going on and then thinking you are safe and away from the alien to only have it pop up and then have to send it into space. That is essentially Alien:R too. Which also again makes Alien 3 the stand out movie. And to me the best.

 

[greygoose]

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Is it June yet......

 

[CelticPredator]

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It's not stealing, it became a formula. Most sequels have a formula.

 

[Darth Vader]

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I wonder what kind of merchandise we will see at that comic convention in uruguay in a few weeks.

 

[draekus]

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Pseudo WWE? The fight scenes in AvP? That's a big load of bull____.

If there is one thing in that movie that is near perfect, it is the fighting/action scenes. They were just so well done, so appealing. You didn't want to look away.

Michael Bay doing the AvP films would not be awesome. The first one already has great fight/action scenes..that doesn't need improving. And from what we see in Transformers, that's the only good thing he can do. But so can almost anyone who knows how to make a movie. No, I don't buy the whole "he's a genius and just chooses to make piles of garbage" crap. And if that's true though, then he obviously doesn't care for quality films and once again, would NOT be a good choice for the AvP franchise.

Whether you like AvP or not, it was a good movie. It could have been so much better, but it wasn't bad.

Now AvP:R, that was bad. Just an overall horrible movie.

Was this an April Fool's joke? (Note, I'm not trying to mock you, I'm seriously asking if you were joking.)

 

[greygoose]

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Most sequels have a formula.

Transformers:ROTF...

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

Haha. Yeah...well, they shot themselves in the eye with that one. That's what happens when you film a movie with no script.