Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[JonWes]

What a fail not using this. This actually looks like a transformation rather than the "OMG SPace Zombies" we got onscreen. Love to know the rationale for cutting this out.

I believe I'd read they wanted to keep any alien-looking element for the big reveal of the Deacon at the end? Don't quote me on that.

 

[Niltusk]

I believe I'd read they wanted to keep any alien-looking element for the big reveal of the Deacon at the end? Don't quote me on that.

I can see this being a possibility, but its not like it looks like the xeno.

 

[Sabres21768]

Probably a bit late and I haven't gone through the whole thread... but have you seen these?

Original Fifield from trailer, pointy elbows, Xenomorph hands and longer head:

PsychoCenobite

Yep, this is what he should have looked like.

Since it was filmed, I hope he gets added into the blu ray in his more "Alien" form.

 

[Biojex]

Probably a bit late and I haven't gone through the whole thread... but have you seen these?

Original Fifield from trailer, pointy elbows, Xenomorph hands and longer head:

And here he is as seen in the film:

PsychoCenobite

That's so awesome

 

[greygoose]

And it would've made a great action figure too!

I was thinking that.

 

[Viking Spawn]

Zombie form: plain & kinda redundant

Alien form: Cool! Badarse!

 

[Sabres21768]

Here's another shot showing the more "Alien" Fifield.

Damn, I really hope they put this back into the blu ray!

 

[tomandshell]

Here's one more:

 

[CelticPredator]

LMAO!!!

Also, love that Fifeild!

 

[draekus]

Yeah that version is pretty cool. Where are you guys getting these pics?

 

[Khev]

Here's another shot showing the more "Alien" Fifield.

Damn, I really hope they put this back into the blu ray!

I wonder if they realized that this version was just "too good" compared to the alien reveal at the end of the movie and they didn't want to peak too soon. I can't think of any other reason they would have completed make-up and visual effects and then reshot the entire sequence with less elaborate visuals.

Think about "The Thing" when the guy got torched in the snow. He was just a dude with a weird voice and jacked up hand. Imagine if he had been a full on raging alien. It might have been cool for that particular scene but would have messed up the flow when the giant creature burst out of the ground at the end.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Am I the only one who thinks he looks too much like Smeagle/a monkey?

 

[Sachiel]

Better than a space-pirate-zombie-chipmunk-thing.

 

[Khev]

Am I the only one who thinks he looks too much like Smeagle/a monkey?

Space Smeagol, I totally see that now.

 

[Viking Spawn]

I so want that put back into the DVD release.... Or at least as an extra feature! That's simply too cool to just NOT use at all.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Better than a space-pirate-zombie-chipmunk-thing.

I don't know how you get pirate and chipmunk from this....

....and I think the more alien version actually resembles a zombie just as much as what we got. Except with the version we got, we know the scarring on his face is from acid burns.

 

[Sachiel]

I'd like to add "pizza-face".

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Pizza Face > Space Smeagle

 

[Niceman]

I found this on the prometheus-movie message boards, and found it fascinating. The idea of the engineers being one of two races, and that they were forced to create humans by a higher race is a very interesting concept (and provides a possible explanation for why the ship at the beginning is different from the Engineers' ship and why the Engineers want to destroy us). I had to read this 3-4 times to get all the names in order.

______

To give some historical/mythological background that may shed some light, Ridley stated the SJ culture was based on Persian Myths. This would be Sumerian/Akkadian/Hindu. This is all taken from the Atra Hasis.

Creators - "G"ods- Annunaki - Dragon Humanoids (Naga, Dragon Kings,)

Helpers - "g"ods - Igigi - Engineers. (Android like living beings....BIOmechanical humanoid. Key features- Pale skin and large black eyes. Also known as watchers, Grigori, and Archons) (in many summerian texts they are actually referred to as "Pilots". Pretty much the Annunaki Air Force.)

When the Annunaki began terraforming the earth, they had the Igigi do the work for them. After a few thousand years the Igigi revolted and went on strike. The Annunaki then decided to create humans to do the work for them.

They sacrificed one of the rebel Igigi named Ge___u to use his blood and dna to make human beings, by mixing it with elements native to the earth.

(In the movie, this can be explained by the the different oval spaceship at the beginning representing the spaceship of the Annunaki)

(It can also be explained by the concept art that leaked from the official book this week)

(According to wikipedia it also says this about the Igigi: "Though sometimes synonymous with the term "Annunaki," in one myth the Igigi were the younger gods who were servants of the Annunaki, until they rebelled and were replaced by the creation of humans." This is reflected in the concept art below.

Even though the humans were created and did the work, 1/3 of the Igigi still werent satisfied and sought revenge for Ge___u, so they rebelled again against the Annunaki Lords and began breeding/mixing with the human females creating Nephelim. This is what sparked the Prime Lord Enlil to flood the earth. Some humans were saved by Enki, the Lord responsible for the sacrifice of Ge___u and the creation of humans. Enlil and the rest of the annunaki decide to return home and let the humans develop on their own. Enki and his family stay behind. The Igigi are forced to leave earth as well. The remaining rebel Igigi are imprisoned on a planet on the way back to the homeworld and it is said as punishment and as a mark they are altered into a demonic appearance, no longer retaining the Angelic appearance.

Enki and his crew are probably the ones leaving the maps for humans to find, along with the ones helping humans advance throughout time.

The sacrfice engineer is Ge___u

The lone engineer is most likely Marduk or a servant/worshipper of Marduk.

The xeno is Mushussu, a creature Marduk fashioned and used as his pet.

The "Engineers" we see are trying to destroy Earth are of the Igigi rebels who view earth as their own. They have always despised humans because the Annunaki saw us as more in their likeness than them. IT's possible that the Igigi have long since destroyed or taken over the annunaki and the homeworld, and Earth was like going to claim the prize or spoils.

They mustve used to the Xeno's to win this war and through its perfection it has began to destroy and infect the Igigi who manufacture and transport it, creating more Mushussu.

the xeno in Alien is most likely an older pilot igigi birthed Mushussu egg crossed with human or a future Annunaki birthed one which would explain the size difference in hosts.

It is mentioned in several lesser stories that Marduk created the Mushussu out of using the essence of the Gods' (Annunaki) he killed as a symbol of his conquering and being able to control them... ie the mural.

Thanks so much for this!

 

[Kuzeh]

Here's one more:

!!!
Anybody seen this?
Sorry if already posted, long thread!

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