Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

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Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

I noticed a few interesting things whilst watching the HD version of the trailer.

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This 100% matches the early script i read.



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I see. So in the original Alien, Dallas and his crew referred to the Jockey suit as bones because they didn't know what it really was.

Did you mean LV-426 in your spoiler, by the way?
 
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I see. So in the original Alien, Dallas and his crew referred to the Jockey suit as bones because they didn't know what it really was.

Did you mean LV-426 in your spoiler, by the way?

yes, and yes! Personally I much prefer the idea of bones. I think making it a suit Biomechanical or not takes away a lot of the mystery. I loved the fact that it was a weird fossilized alien.

But regardless, I think this looks awesome.

:yess:
 
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I wasn't sure if this has been said before but I've wondered about the status of a Xenomorph appearing in this film. From what I remember from the other movies, the alien takes on some characteristics from its host. If it pops out of a human it walks around on its hind legs. If it is comes from a dog, like in Alien 3, it runs around on all fours. In AVP:R, we got the Predalien.
So is it possible we will see a Xenomorph in this film, only it looks much different than what we are use to seeing because it gestated in something we haven't seen yet.
 
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yes, and yes! Personally I much prefer the idea of bones. I think making it a suit Biomechanical or not takes away a lot of the mystery. I loved the fact that it was a weird fossilized alien.

But regardless, I think this looks awesome.

:yess:

As did I although it was hard to discern how such a creature, as it appeared, could possibly be real and move around and develop technology etc. I mean its face seemed to be connected to its chest, WTF?!
 
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Damn this looks awesome... and terrifying! :horror
 
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Looks awesome but the Space Jockey in the comics was much different looking. They were about ten feet tall, had an elephantlike trunk, had crosses as pupils, and levitated. But, that was expanded universe, I guess, so they could do whatever they please. It's been a while since I've read them but it wasn't a mask of any sort, as far as I remember.
 
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Not sure how I feel about the jockey being human.
 
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Looks awesome but the Space Jockey in the comics was much different looking. They were about ten feet tall, had an elephantlike trunk, had crosses as pupils, and levitated. But, that was expanded universe, I guess, so they could do whatever they please. It's been a while since I've read them but it wasn't a mask of any sort, as far as I remember.
The comics have nothing to do with the movies. Heck, even some of the ideas the Alien sequels brought to the franchise might be tossed out the window with this movie.

That was from one-two comics..in Apocalypse The Destroying Angels. it looks like this..

Mala'kak.jpg
 
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Hey gang, I thought of another connection with Macross/Robotech:

The name Prometheus itself! That was the aircraft carrier arm of the SDF-1!

:panic: :panic: :panic:
 
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This trailer is truly glorious. And what's with the skeletal head laying on the surgery table in the Prometheus' med bay in one scene? Is that a Space Jockey/Engineer head?
 
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This trailer is truly glorious. And what's with the skeletal head laying on the surgery table in the Prometheus' med bay in one scene? Is that a Space Jockey/Engineer head?
It's a Space Jockey helmet. The skeletal creature you see in Alien is actually just a suit containing the real Jockey.
 
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Whose doing the music in Prometheus? Hans Zimmer is Ridleys go-to guy these days isn't he?
 
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The comics have nothing to do with the movies. Heck, even some of the ideas the Alien sequels brought to the franchise might be tossed out the window with this movie.

That was from one-two comics..in Apocalypse The Destroying Angels. it looks like this..

Mala'kak.jpg

If you read my comment a little more closely, before finding fault with it, you'd have noticed that I acknowledged the expanded universe aspect of the Jockey. I'm well aware that one really doesn't have much to do with the other.
 
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Just watched the trailer, awesome! I'm looking forward to this more than the Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises, and all the other summer blockbusters! This is at the top of my list and I will see it opening day!

First off, F' you Fox for screwing up the Alien and Predator franchises with the AvP movies. Though you gave us some cool looking Xenos and Preds, you also crapped all over the hard work of filmmakers like McTiernan, Scott, Cameron, Giger, Winston and everyone else who was involved.

But thank you, whichever executives you are, for realizing you F'ed up and decided to separate the franchises and give them a shot again. PREDATORS was awesome and a true return to form for the hunters and getting Ridley Scott back on the ALIEN franchise with this movie is a true blessing. I'd LOVE, absolutely LOVE to see Ridley Scott and James Cameron team up and do a new, true ALIEN movie so throw a lot of money at them and kiss their butts like crazy to make it so!

That being said, bring on Prometheus. Here's my theory on the film, I'm going to spoiler censor it but it's mostly based on interviews, small synopsis, etc.

Ridley Scott says that "Prometheus" also follows a traditional sense of the story of the titan who stole the gift of fire from the gods and gave it to mankind. If you have no idea about the story of Prometheus, I suggest you educate yourself and look it up.

That being said, here's some of my theories: I believe the Jockey is a rogue scientist/exile/perhaps even a criminal of his own species. Who essentially decided to take the "gifts" of his race's technology and exploit them upon the galaxy/universe. Perhaps creating several new species and creatures, including humans. Either he does this to get back at his kind or like an outcast scientist wanted the freedom to explore without moral constraints.

Following that trend, it's quite possible that the Jockey even "befriends" the humans who discover him. Allowing them to study his technology even though he possibly knows it will corrupt and mutate them (hence the "human mutations"). Much like the titan Prometheus, the Jockey was outcast from his own race and now wants to use his technology AGAINST his own people, perhaps even destroy them. Ultimately, the experiments and such go wrong, everything then culminates with what he believes will be his "perfect species/warrior", the Xenomorphs. And we know how that goes...

However, the movie displays a lot of the "exploratory" theme and the Jockey might be an "unseen force/observer" until the end of the movie. He ALLOWS the humans to take his experiments/technology/etc., because he wants to see how the bio-experiments/technology will affect them. Perhaps all with the motive to create a "warrior species" much like my other theories. Originally, the bio-junk, whatever may mutate them into the warriors he needs/wants/or just plainly observes to see what happens.

The ultimate mutation however, might be the Alien Egg. For those who remember the "cut" scenes from ALIEN. Ripley discovers Dallas in the ship stuck to a wall slowly "mutating" into an Alien Egg. Ridley Scott has said that was how the Aliens "bred" at the time. Now, granted James Cameron changed that by introducing the Alien Queen, but in the absence of a Queen, even ants have ways of "creating" one in order to propagate their numbers.
 
Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

I wasn't sure if this has been said before but I've wondered about the status of a Xenomorph appearing in this film. From what I remember from the other movies, the alien takes on some characteristics from its host. If it pops out of a human it walks around on its hind legs. If it is comes from a dog, like in Alien 3, it runs around on all fours. In AVP:R, we got the Predalien.
So is it possible we will see a Xenomorph in this film, only it looks much different than what we are use to seeing because it gestated in something we haven't seen yet.

I do not think we will see a full grown Xenomorph in Prometheus. Unless the whole "Derelict crash" scene is because the creature bursts out of the Jockey.

Ridley Scott has made it pretty evident that though this is TIED to the ALIEN movie and essentially the "same DNA" as he calls it, it is supposed to also be a separate film on its own. Having too much of the traditional Xenomorphs will go against that.

I can probably 99% guarantee you there will be at least ONE scene that hints to the ALIEN Xenomorph. I'm sure Ridley Scott can't resist that and I'm sure 20th Century Fox insisted upon it.

It'll be some scene with some of that picture perfect music and a dark room where the camera rolls up on the eerie form of an Alien egg illuminated by an unseen light. Cut to black, roll credits. And at that point, all us fanboys will pop a boner and go catatonic in excitement. :pray:
 
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Like I said, there will be Aliens. Just not THE Aliens. You won't see anything old.
 
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Because they are. :confused:

The Space Jockies created us. We are in their image...so to speak.

Obviously not 9 feet tall, and not pale and bald. Well..not most of us anyway. :D
 
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