Pirates of the Caribbean 4
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I really enjoyed all three films but I have a feeling this one will make up for the third of those who didn't enjoy it.
By the way just in case nobody else has posted it, heres quite poor quality, but rather fun vid of 'Sparrows' said visit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHiB0z2ulf8
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What If Hugh Jackman Had Been Jack Sparrow?
by: Tim Grierson
We're trying to picture him with a bandanna.
There was a time when Johnny Depp wasn't a superstar. He's been a star and a respected actor for quite some time, but it wasn't until he donned a bandanna and put on eyeliner to play the colorful Captain Jack Sparrow in "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" in 2003 that he graduated to the level of a Will Smith or Tom Cruise. Well, it turns out that if things had worked out differently, Depp would never have gotten the opportunity. If one of the film's writers had had his way, the part would have gone to Hugh Jackman.
Speaking at the Advance Lounge Chair series this week, Stuart Beattie (who is credited as one of the "Story By" writers for "Black Pearl") said, "I initially wrote that character with Hugh Jackman in mind." Just how committed was he to the idea of casting Jackman? He named the character Jack in his honor. But according to Beattie, Disney didn't think Jackman was a big enough star, eventually going with Depp, who at the point had only had one $100 million movie to his credit: "Sleepy Hollow."
Whenever a film becomes enormously successful and launches a lucrative franchise, there will be that inevitable moment down the road when we learn who was originally meant to play the characters we've come to know and love. (Honestly, how many paragraphs into Tom Selleck's obituary will it take before they mention that he was almost Indiana Jones?) Usually, people tend to favor the actor who ended up getting the part because that person is so ingrained in our consciousness as that character. But in the case of Jackman, we actually think it could have worked with him in the role. As he's demonstrated in the "X-Men" series, he has the right combination of brawn, swagger and humor that would have served him well as Captain Jack.
But whereas in earlier cases of an actor getting passed over for a big role -- like Eric Stoltz in "Back to the Future" -- we don't need to feel sad for Jackman or lament the glorious career he could have had. Jackman's doing just fine: He's busy currently working on "Wolverine" with "Black Swan" director Darren Aronofsky and is a Tony-winning Broadway actor. (Ironically, one of his biggest duds was "Australia," which was co-written by Beattie.)
As for Depp, Captain Jack will probably end up being his signature role, for better or worse. Genuinely funny and compellingly larger-than-life in a way that movie stars rarely are anymore in blockbuster films, Depp helped make the first "Pirates of the Caribbean" as supremely entertaining as it was. (Amazingly, it was that role that finally earned him his first Oscar nomination after a decade of underappreciated work in everything from "Ed Wood" to "Donnie Brasco." Not bad for a performance that Depp recently said the Disney bigwigs initially hated, insisting he was "ruining the movie.") At a time when most A-list stars weren't actually great actors, it was really satisfying to see Johnny Depp become part of Hollywood's upper echelon. Sadly, the subsequent "Pirates" sequels got progressively lamer, and Depp's hammy shtick grew tiresome. In the end, though, both actors arrived at the same place: Depp will forever be linked with Captain Jack, and Jackman shall always be Wolverine. It's the trade-off you have to make to become a superstar. And, really, isn't that better than ending up a cinematic footnote like Tom Selleck?
by: Tim Grierson
We're trying to picture him with a bandanna.
There was a time when Johnny Depp wasn't a superstar. He's been a star and a respected actor for quite some time, but it wasn't until he donned a bandanna and put on eyeliner to play the colorful Captain Jack Sparrow in "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" in 2003 that he graduated to the level of a Will Smith or Tom Cruise. Well, it turns out that if things had worked out differently, Depp would never have gotten the opportunity. If one of the film's writers had had his way, the part would have gone to Hugh Jackman.
Speaking at the Advance Lounge Chair series this week, Stuart Beattie (who is credited as one of the "Story By" writers for "Black Pearl") said, "I initially wrote that character with Hugh Jackman in mind." Just how committed was he to the idea of casting Jackman? He named the character Jack in his honor. But according to Beattie, Disney didn't think Jackman was a big enough star, eventually going with Depp, who at the point had only had one $100 million movie to his credit: "Sleepy Hollow."
Whenever a film becomes enormously successful and launches a lucrative franchise, there will be that inevitable moment down the road when we learn who was originally meant to play the characters we've come to know and love. (Honestly, how many paragraphs into Tom Selleck's obituary will it take before they mention that he was almost Indiana Jones?) Usually, people tend to favor the actor who ended up getting the part because that person is so ingrained in our consciousness as that character. But in the case of Jackman, we actually think it could have worked with him in the role. As he's demonstrated in the "X-Men" series, he has the right combination of brawn, swagger and humor that would have served him well as Captain Jack.
But whereas in earlier cases of an actor getting passed over for a big role -- like Eric Stoltz in "Back to the Future" -- we don't need to feel sad for Jackman or lament the glorious career he could have had. Jackman's doing just fine: He's busy currently working on "Wolverine" with "Black Swan" director Darren Aronofsky and is a Tony-winning Broadway actor. (Ironically, one of his biggest duds was "Australia," which was co-written by Beattie.)
As for Depp, Captain Jack will probably end up being his signature role, for better or worse. Genuinely funny and compellingly larger-than-life in a way that movie stars rarely are anymore in blockbuster films, Depp helped make the first "Pirates of the Caribbean" as supremely entertaining as it was. (Amazingly, it was that role that finally earned him his first Oscar nomination after a decade of underappreciated work in everything from "Ed Wood" to "Donnie Brasco." Not bad for a performance that Depp recently said the Disney bigwigs initially hated, insisting he was "ruining the movie.") At a time when most A-list stars weren't actually great actors, it was really satisfying to see Johnny Depp become part of Hollywood's upper echelon. Sadly, the subsequent "Pirates" sequels got progressively lamer, and Depp's hammy shtick grew tiresome. In the end, though, both actors arrived at the same place: Depp will forever be linked with Captain Jack, and Jackman shall always be Wolverine. It's the trade-off you have to make to become a superstar. And, really, isn't that better than ending up a cinematic footnote like Tom Selleck?
Ironic I just got done watching POTC. Honestly, I have no issues with any of the three so far and don't think Depp's hammy shtick has gone too far. He really helps make the movies and I'm very excited to see him in this role again next year. He is a great actor and like Downey Jr took non normal roles to really be appreciated.
I think the tone of the films would have been darker or more serious with Jackman. I think he's a great actor and enjoy his work, but I think he's wrong for a fun pirate movie, I could see him as a pirate in a more realistic portrayal of pirates.
And the films are great, but Depp really sealed their success. I remember the first time I saw Curse, the first few scenes with Sparrow just got me hooked on the character, he came right out of the gate with it all.
And the films are great, but Depp really sealed their success. I remember the first time I saw Curse, the first few scenes with Sparrow just got me hooked on the character, he came right out of the gate with it all.
Yeah, Depp alone couldn't do it, the other characters were important, but the supporting cast was less important to Depp than Depp to them.
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Honestly I would argue from the first film the only actors who were irreplaceable were Geoffrey Rush and Johnny Depp. The rest of the actors who have easily been replaced. After that Bill Nighy definitely made Davy Jones and the actors playing Gibbs and Norington came into their own but definitely didn't have the same "need" as Depp or Rush.
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l would not be surprised if there will be a pirates 5. of course Depp wont be involved, you can tell he was forced into the upcoming one. Jerry Bruckheimer will milk this franchise for every penny its worth, with a whole new cast for the next one.
l really liked these movies, but Orlando Bloom kind of ruined them for me. he over acts all the time and just annoys me. he was great in LOTR because he was a quite character. i am glad hes not in the new one, which l hope is good since there is a whole new director, and when a new director takes over a franchise its usually not a good outcome.
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No he wasnt. He actually likes to play Jack Sparrow.....it's fun for him. Go figure.
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Yup, he said he'd like to do other things in between but that he loves to put everything on and play the character. He was signed up for a Pirates 4 unofficially before it even was greenlit. He said publically if they ask him he'll do it.
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l read that Depp did say he was ready for a forth before it was confirmed, but then Disney chairman D ick Cook was fired and Depp then did not want to do the forth film without Cook involved with Disney, since he is the reason Depp started working with Disney. l thought he then only agreed to do the film because they gave him a sick amount of money.
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I don't know how reputable this site is, but HitFlix is reporting that Disney is assembling crews to shoot PotC 5 & 6 back to back:
https://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion...for-pirates-of-the-caribbean-5-6-back-to-back
https://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion...for-pirates-of-the-caribbean-5-6-back-to-back
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