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Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

I take the entire POTC trillogy as just plain fun. Its not like watching a great masterpiece or anything that makes you think its just there for fun. Lots of action and funny moments... thats all.
 
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I think enjoyment of the POTC trilogy really depends on what you enjoy about the movies. I can see why some wouldn't like DMC or AWE, but for me, I love the whole series, the things I enjoy about the movies are present in all 3 and it's one of my favorite movie series ever, most of all because of Johny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow, one of my all time favorite movie characters :rock
 
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I think I am the outcast when I say they got better as the films went on. I love Davy Jones and his chracter was so spectacular to watch. I think Depp did an amazing job bringing Jack Sparrow to life and I really wouldn't mind a Pirates 4. All three are just good fun.
 
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I actually feel the Pirates sequels went too supernatural, that it was better with CotBP because it was old fashioned swashbuckling adventure at its finest, with a quirky well acted character and a touch of the supernatural as a huge plus. The sequels are overblown with the supernatural and less about actual pirating, and Jack rather becomes a buffoon. A well acted buffoon, but a buffoon none the less.

To explain my feelings on the difference in Jack: in Curse, Jack was the intelligent trickster playing the fool. In the sequels, Jack is a fool playing the intelligent trickster.

My mom and I, before she passed away, used to say we were afraid that would happen in any POTC sequels, they would take Jack and turn him into the comic relief. When we watched the Cannibal Island sequence, we were proven oh, so right.

My opinion on the sequels continues to evolve, or de-evolve, depending on how you look at it. I still like them and own them on dvd, but a part of me was disappointed with them.
 
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I guess that's where I am able to enjoy the whole series. For me, Jack Sparrow was the same from the first movie to the last, and the second and third films just showed more of how he is an all. For me, Jack Sparrow is a ^^^^ luck pirate who has plans and ideas but no clue how to go about them and acts in the moment and somehow manages to make all the pieces work.
 
Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

I actually feel the Pirates sequels went too supernatural, that it was better with CotBP because it was old fashioned swashbuckling adventure at its finest, with a quirky well acted character and a touch of the supernatural as a huge plus. The sequels are overblown with the supernatural and less about actual pirating, and Jack rather becomes a buffoon. A well acted buffoon, but a buffoon none the less.

To explain my feelings on the difference in Jack: in Curse, Jack was the intelligent trickster playing the fool. In the sequels, Jack is a fool playing the intelligent trickster.

My mom and I, before she passed away, used to say we were afraid that would happen in any POTC sequels, they would take Jack and turn him into the comic relief. When we watched the Cannibal Island sequence, we were proven oh, so right.

My opinion on the sequels continues to evolve, or de-evolve, depending on how you look at it. I still like them and own them on dvd, but a part of me was disappointed with them.

Agreed 100%. The sequels were bloated, too over the top and Jack is reduced to the comic relief sidekick. POTC suffered the same fate as The Matrix. They captured lightning in a bottle with the first movie and had no idea where to go with the sequels so they just threw every bit of nonsense they could think of up there.
 
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The COTBP felt like the Disneyworld attraction. A cool ride with a real pirate feel to it. Wenches, drunkards, and some great pirating. A fall off ocurred with DMC. Still entertaining but strained for a cogent storyline. AWE was a lost movie trying to find a purpose to me. I am a huge believer in suspension of disbelief at the movies. Letting a joy ride just flow. I found AWE clunky, difficult to follow and boring. What was with the multiple Jack's, the ridiculous peanut scene, and the whole desert and crab thing? I watched it again with my kids last week and still didn't care for it. The movie was a waste of Depp's considerable talent.
 
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To explain my feelings on the difference in Jack: in Curse, Jack was the intelligent trickster playing the fool. In the sequels, Jack is a fool playing the intelligent trickster.

There's a lot of truth in that statement, and it never really occured to me until you put it that way.

I love the "Pirates" movies -- one of the better trilogies I've seen as a whole -- but I do agree that Jack seemed a little more clever in Black Pearl. And more importantly he seemed a little more dangerous. They lost that in the sequels. Running scared in DMC definitely undermined his dangerousness. And he had very little to do in AWE because there were so many characters to give screen time to.

That said, for me, I still find DMC the most watchable. I don't know why. Must be because of Davy Jones. He's mesmerizing.
 
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The COTBP felt like the Disneyworld attraction. A cool ride with a real pirate feel to it. Wenches, drunkards, and some great pirating. A fall off ocurred with DMC. Still entertaining but strained for a cogent storyline. AWE was a lost movie trying to find a purpose to me. I am a huge believer in suspension of disbelief at the movies. Letting a joy ride just flow. I found AWE clunky, difficult to follow and boring. What was with the multiple Jack's, the ridiculous peanut scene, and the whole desert and crab thing? I watched it again with my kids last week and still didn't care for it. The movie was a waste of Depp's considerable talent.

That desert and crab scene made me scratch my head too. And what really made me go YIKES, was seeing Depp's big ass, sniffing nose so big on the screen that you could count his pores. BLAH! :lol
 
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I think that is a sentence that could definitely benefit from a well-placed hyphen. ;)

:lol Sorry! That's Ohio-speak. Anything big is "big ass". Like Depp's big ass nose. But it was sniffing in the movie. So.....:rotfl

Still an ugly sight!
 
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The COTBP felt like the Disneyworld attraction. A cool ride with a real pirate feel to it. Wenches, drunkards, and some great pirating. A fall off ocurred with DMC. Still entertaining but strained for a cogent storyline. AWE was a lost movie trying to find a purpose to me. I am a huge believer in suspension of disbelief at the movies. Letting a joy ride just flow. I found AWE clunky, difficult to follow and boring. What was with the multiple Jack's, the ridiculous peanut scene, and the whole desert and crab thing? I watched it again with my kids last week and still didn't care for it. The movie was a waste of Depp's considerable talent.

in the occult the crab symbolism is a bridge or gap between the worlds of the living and the worlds of the dead.

Jones is inspired by Cthulhu-like creatures that live inside the earth( see youtube vid link below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gufb9Up4rsc

Synchromysticism: The art of realizing meaningful coincidence in the seemingly mundane with mystical or esoteric significance. It doesn't have to be intentional - In fact the more interesting syncs have been completely random events in the "pop" conscioussness. ;D

It's certainly not all about symbolism in Hollywood:
pop culture is a reflection of the collective human conscioussness - and humans are a reflection of the God conscioussness - We are extensions of it's guiding power - We live through it - And it Vicariously lives through us. There is no distinction between the two. ;D

After I saw AWE I had a dream of a Cthulhu-like figure where it's eyes came out of it's body, and tried to embed themselves within people, similar to the Samael eggs in Hellboy 1. A previous dream involved a similar Octopus figure dissolving again into millions of little points of light and reconfiguring into some sort of all seeing eye talisman. It makes me wonder,if Jones is a symbolism of the Cthulhu consciousness that is seeking ways of integrating into material consciousness.
Next time they mess with me, I'll be sure to lop their heads off with
my Vorpal sword - It's my dream after all. ;D You know

Have you ever had a dream, that you was so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?
 
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I guess that's where I am able to enjoy the whole series. For me, Jack Sparrow was the same from the first movie to the last, and the second and third films just showed more of how he is an all. For me, Jack Sparrow is a ^^^^ luck pirate who has plans and ideas but no clue how to go about them and acts in the moment and somehow manages to make all the pieces work.

For me, Jack definitely isn't the same. I can't see CotBP Jack falling down the Black Pearl steps or being involved in the shishkabob gags in the Cannibal Island sequence, nor can I see the peanut or goat being placed anywhere in the film. Jack was shown as shrewd and manipulative beneath an offbeat exterior that tended to throw people right off. They took Jack seriously in the first film - he was quirky and fun, but not silly or a buffoon. They walked that fine line with him and they did it perfectly. They fell right over the edge in the sequels.

I remember very clearly watching DMC at the midnight show and when Jack tripped and fell down the BP steps my mother and I both turned our heads and looked at each other- it took us right out of the film. The goat and peanut thing in AWE was even worse.

What's even more disappointing for me is that they apparently had an awesome backstory between Jack and Beckett and how Jack became a pirate, but they chose not to use it in the sequels and went with pointless antics and comedy instead of something that would have really added to the films and brought Jack to the center of the films as something other than the comic relief.
 
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Jack's definitely the buffoon in the last 2 Pirates. Kind of a sad after thought in AWE. Such a shame for a franchise with limitless potential. Elizabeth as the pirate king? Puhlease!!
 
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Jack's definitely the buffoon in the last 2 Pirates. Kind of a sad after thought in AWE. Such a shame for a franchise with limitless potential. Elizabeth as the pirate king? Puhlease!!

:lecture :lecture :lecture

The more I think about AWE, the more I despise it.
 
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My Jones figure is bigger then your jones figure.

I gave him a 1 inch extra height extension, I molded some plastic onto his crab leg and painted it black then I filled the boot with paper and he looks great.

Might put up some pics soon.

Jones is by far my favorite POTC figure. I still need Sao Feng (his coming soon) and miss swan (not sure if I will get her)

I sense.. (softly) Cthulu, shall be spoken of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft


Here are some items that came to my attention, from wikipedia I gained:
'The star-spawn of Cthulhu, or Cthulhi, have a physical simility with Cthulhu himself, but are of far smaller size. This race arrived with him, but relatively little is known about them. On earth they built the city R'lyeh, which later sank in the ocean, and where they still dwell with Cthulhu. A few are rumored to have escaped this incident, and can be found in hidden places on earth.
"ARRGGHH you hollow earth libbin Illithids"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu

Davy+cthulu.JPG


Illithid.jpg

"ARRGGHH you hollow earth libbin Illithids"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illithids

https://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/


The Pacific oceans region has been in the news a bit of late:
Meteorite crash in Peru
The 7.9 magnitude earthquake in Peru
The 7.9 magnitude earthquake and tsunami warning in Indonesia
The 6.3 Earthquake in Indonesia
Top alert for Indonesia volcano, villagers evacuate
"Mud Volcano" in Indonesia

Now I realize these events are in the 'Ring of Fire'

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then there is this from: Lovecraft, At the Mountains of Madness , in At the Mountains of Madness, p. 66.

With the upheaval of new land in the South Pacific tremendous events began.... Another race--a land race of beings shaped like octopi and probably corresponding to the fabulous pre-human spawn of Cthulhu--soon began filtering down from cosmic infinity and precipitated a monstrous war which for a time drove the Old Ones wholly back to the sea.... Later peace was made, and the new lands were given to the Cthulhu spawn whilst the Old Ones held the sea and the older lands.... [T]he antarctic remained the centre of the Old Ones' civilisation, and all the discoverable cities built there by the Cthulhu spawn were blotted out. Then suddenly the lands of the Pacific sank again, taking with them the frightful stone city of R'lyeh and all the cosmic octopi, so that the Old Ones were once again supreme on the planet....

calamari.jpg


Suddenly I crave calamari!!!

https://cthulhuthemovie.com/
 
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The Pacific oceans region has been in the news a bit of late:
Meteorite crash in Peru
The 7.9 magnitude earthquake in Peru
The 7.9 magnitude earthquake and tsunami warning in Indonesia
The 6.3 Earthquake in Indonesia
Top alert for Indonesia volcano, villagers evacuate
"Mud Volcano" in Indonesia

Now I realize these events are in the 'Ring of Fire'

:confused::confused::confused:

what are we talking about here?
 
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