PREORDER NOW! [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

I rather see the set come as complete from the source as possible. I don't like this trend of outsourcing all the missing bits when the source usually has the capacity to offer it themselves.
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Well technically some of what iminime does is outsourced anyways, (if there ever was a time to collaborate with Rainman on an accessory, it's now ) but I get what your saying in that you'd like to recieve all the bits and pieces in one package from the main vendor. I agree. There's alot of fine detail in those swords so I hope it's treated as important as the sculpts etc.

 

[mao86]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Once again just want to communicate to those who may not know;

To everyone who shows interest sign up with the cinemascale.com mailing list on the home page of the site to receive all the latest news on upcoming releases and preorders.
Thanks,
Wake

Signed up brother! Will the PO for these be at the same time on the Cinemascale and Iminime sites?

 

[PopCultKid]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

I didn't hear anything about any renewal options, and I'm one who signed on last year (though not in September). It wouldn't have made much sense to renew sooner than this month since no one's membership would have expired sooner. Denny opened spots up after closing it when there was an uproar in the "Cowboy" thread back in April or whatever it was by folks who wanted to pre-order sooner than everyone else. I don't know if the VIP went past 100 though. If memory serves, it didn't close because of that initially, but because Denny had a time limit for signing up.

Right, I remember the whole Cowboy thing. For some reason I'm under the impression that he closed the VIP because they hit the time limit before the 100 head mark like you said; then when people wanted in to use it as an edge for the Cowboy PO, I think he opened up the difference in spots to equal the original 100 offered. i.e if originally 70 VIP spots were offered, he completed the 100 by reoffering the remaining 30 spots during the Cowboy thing

 

[karamazov80]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

That may be true. I don't remember any discussions about that though. In any case, if the VIP is to continue at all, it would have to have more spots open up soon since the 1-year period is beginning to elapse for some.

 

[SwedishHeat]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Well technically some of what iminime does is outsourced anyways, (if there ever was a time to collaborate with Rainman on an accessory, it's now )

Didn't rainman say he wasn't doing metal accessories anymore because his metal factory was too expensive, or wouldn't take his order because the qty is too small?

IIRC, the Driver gun slide is metal, so maybe that changed? And considering the combined orders for Bride and ORen will probably be around 200 or so, maybe that's a big enough order for the metal factory.

 

[Wake]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

The VIP system is likely to be overhauled and may return in a different form


Regarding POs, cinemascale may actually get a few hours of lead time on the the PO

 

[PopCultKid]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Well technically some of what iminime does is outsourced anyways, but I get what your saying in that you'd like to recieve all the bits and pieces in one package from the main vendor. I agree. There's alot of fine detail in those swords so I hope it's treated as important as the sculpts etc.

Robbie and the others are great artists and fantastic assets to the community but it's starting to feel like we're calling in reinforcements on almost every single figure that's coming out lately.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Didn't rainman say he wasn't doing metal accessories anymore because his metal factory was too expensive, or wouldn't take his order because the qty is too small?

IIRC, the Driver gun slide is metal, so maybe that changed? And considering the combined orders for Bride and ORen will probably be around 200 or so, maybe that's a big enough order for the metal factory.

Pretty sure Bickle's belt buckle is metal. . .

 

[karamazov80]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

The VIP system is likely to be overhauled and may return in a different form

So folks who ordered last September may be out of luck for the discount for releases until it is changed?

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Didn't rainman say he wasn't doing metal accessories anymore because his metal factory was too expensive, or wouldn't take his order because the qty is too small?

IIRC, the Driver gun slide is metal, so maybe that changed? And considering the combined orders for Bride and ORen will probably be around 200 or so, maybe that's a big enough order for the metal factory.

If it's resin then he could sculpt it along with that Hatori Stamp and the fine details on the handle, plus the sheath for both O-Ren and the bride. That's all I would imagine Rainman would be hired for. The metal finishing or casting process would be handled by Iminime, I would think since it's a production matter.

Pretty sure Bickle's belt buckle is metal. . .

Silver.....Rainman went all out on that!

 

[PopCultKid]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Didn't rainman say he wasn't doing metal accessories anymore because his metal factory was too expensive, or wouldn't take his order because the qty is too small?

IIRC, the Driver gun slide is metal, so maybe that changed? And considering the combined orders for Bride and ORen will probably be around 200 or so, maybe that's a big enough order for the metal factory.

I was thinking the same thing but IDK the details. If they do more characters with swords that would even add to the total tally. But then the variations like inscriptions come into play; also I'm not positive if each blade is identical or there’s varying lengths/designs.

I don't know how the metal factory works though. Does an order of say 300 have to be all the same shape and design or will they make 100 each of 3 designs and consider that to be the same size order?

The VIP system is likely to be overhauled and may return in a different form


Regarding POs, cinemascale may actually get a few hours of lead time on the the PO

You're talking about revamping the package next year, right? I paid for mine this year already Unless you're talking about sweetening the deal

 

[nexus]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Joined the mailing list W so looking forward to more updates. Let me know new plans for VIP. Last year it was a bit confusing out of the gate and when I finally circled back around it was sold out.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

If this has the Hatori Stamp on it then there should be no reason why iminime can't take it to the next level. The shape of the blade is off on this but it's an awfully great attempt by a company that isn't in Iminime's league.

 

[Wake]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

If this has the Hatori Stamp on it then there should be no reason why iminime can't take it to the next level. The shape of the blade is off on this but it's an awfully great attempt by a company that isn't in Iminime's league.

Its also a company with a mass production capabilities which Iminime does NOT have.

i think we all need to change our way of thinking regards how Iminime is viewed. They are not a mass-producer nor do they have the capabilities for that (metal swords produced in 1000-2000pc runs are much more cost effective), nor are they a single custom artist (like Rainman or Betomali) who produce a single figure at a time at very high prices). Iminime is unique position--for the time being--somewhere in between and just because certain things are easy for one end of the spectrum does not make it easy for iminime.

LET'S STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS is what Im getting at. That way we can avoid the unfortunate incidents that led to Denny currently wanting to take a little leave of absence from SSF from happening again, cool?

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Its also a company with a mass production capabilities which Iminime does NOT have.

i think we all need to change our way of thinking regards how Iminime is viewed. They are not a mass-producer nor do they have the capabilities for that (metal swords produced in 1000-2000pc runs are much more cost effective), nor are they a single custom artist (like Rainman or Betomali) who produce a single figure at a time at very high prices). Iminime is unique position--for the time being--somewhere in between and just because certain things are easy for one end of the spectrum does not make it easy for iminime.



LET'S STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS is what Im getting at. That way we can avoid the unfortunate incidents that led to Denny currently wanting to take a little leave of absence from SSF from happening
again, cool?

Wait a second Wake.....The point of this hobby is the details. BottomLine...... otherwise we'd all be collecting Play Toys. Let's not waterdown what got us here in the firstplace, and I'm seeing that more and more these days. Iminime is in a very strange position indeed but to say that they don't have the ability to produce the sword in the highest level of quality but then ask us to save our "pennies" just doesn't sound right. The talent is obviously in-house but are the logistics behind the project in order as well? All I'm saying is no way does a company like Play Toys get away with making a better sword than Iminme when we're talking about upholding a certain standard of "Custom" quality here, the kind that reputations are built on. The rules are the rules and it's always been about the finest of details.

My assumption is that the "save your pennies" pitch is because there will be no question that Iminime will produce the most definitive version of The Bride and O-Ren to date. Not a good look if we gotta bash from a play toys offering.

 

[PopCultKid]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

That may be true. I don't remember any discussions about that though. In any case, if the VIP is to continue at all, it would have to have more spots open up soon since the 1-year period is beginning to elapse for some.

When people were asking during the Cowboy panic, I remember him saying something along the lines of: "we didn't sell all 100 spots originally, so I can offer these now" (not verbatim).

I paid for my second year VIP membership directly to Denny like 6 weeks ago. My 1st year membership was going to expire around the end of August and even though I paid a few weeks early, the new membership doesn't activate until the last one expires. So you don't lose any days in overlap of anything

 

[Wake]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Wait a second Wake.....The point of this hobby is the details. BottomLine...... otherwise we'd all be collecting Play Toys. Let's not waterdown what got us here in the firstplace, and I'm seeing that more and more these days. Iminime is in a very strange position indeed but to say that they don't have the ability to produce the sword in the highest of quality but then ask us to save our "pennies" just doesn't sound right. The talent is obviously in-house but are the logistics behind the project in order as well? All I'm saying is no way does a company like Play Toys get away with making a better sword than Iminme when we're talking about upholding a certain standard of quality here, the kind that reputations are built on. The rules are the rules and it's always been about the finest of details.

Im not saying its not possible. Merely pointing out that what's easy for one business model may not be easy for another. I have NO DOUBT that Denny and his team can produce a hanzo sword of exquisite detail... but if it costs $200 to produce a single one will the customer pay it? What if iminime needs a minimum amount to commit before the cost because cost-effective? Think about these variables first, because its easy to say 'if playtoy can do it, so can iminime because iminime is better!" when the fact remains Playtoy spreads out the coast amongst 2000 pieces whilst Iminime only makes a few.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Im not saying its not possible. Merely pointing out that what's easy for one business model may not be easy for another. I have NO DOUBT that Denny and his team can produce a hanzo sword of exquisite detail... but if it costs $200 to produce a single one will the customer pay it? What if iminime needs a minimum amount to commit before the cost because cost-effective? Think about these variables first, because its easy to say 'if playtoy can do it, so can iminime because iminime is better!" when the fact remains Playtoy spreads out the coast amongst 2000 pieces whilst Iminime only makes a few.

Play toy charges $100-130 dollars for there product. Iminime charges $500+ for theirs. That's almost 5 times as much so why isn't the math adding up? The whole essence of High End Custom figure collecting is being watered down if the quality of the product is not upheld to a certain standard. The customer shouldn't have to consider variables as a way to be "talked down" in a sense to accept anything less than the very best at these prices. Of course it's easy to say that if play toys can do it so can Iminime! How do you go backwards in quality instead of foward if the statement is your trying to establish yourself as the very best "custom" 1/6 figure producer.

These are all assumptions since there is absolutely no proof that Iminime won't deliver the very best with this project. All I'm saying is it's becoming to common in this hobby to have to bring up these kinds of questions and doubts at these prices ranges. There should be no reason, whatsoever, that somthing as important as a Hatori stamp on the sword would be overlooked. Otherwise it would be in any "custom" figures best interest to think about what Projects they can and cannot do (ability wise) without watering down the very definition of what High End custom work really is.

 

[Levit05]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Turbo...the answer is cost accounting....I see what Wake is saying and it makes sense...if you wanted to make the exact same argument....you could say that Play toys would have to shrink their orders to the 50-100 figures so that they could mimick the Iminime runs OR you could say that Iminime would have to UP their runs to about 1000-2000 to be able to not only afford the metal sword but to also drop the overall price of the custom....either way....I would be willing to bet anything that Play toys has a bigger and deeper pocket then Iminime....

 

[Wake]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

Turbo...the answer is cost accounting....I see what Wake is saying and it makes sense...if you wanted to make the exact same argument....you could say that Play toys would have to shrink their orders to the 50-100 figures so that they could mimick the Iminime runs OR you could say that Iminime would have to UP their runs to about 1000-2000 to be able to not only afford the metal sword but to also drop the overall price of the custom....either way....I would be willing to bet anything that Play toys has a bigger and deeper pocket then Iminime....