Presidential Debate McCain vs Obama Round 2

[DarkArtist81]

Ouch. I find that a bit rude honestly. I don't care for your views but I'm not going to say that I don't at least give you credit for believing the way you do. Wrong from my POV but you got a right to believe all the lies you want.

No post I've made has been more than jabs? Are you serious? Man, thats so much bull^^^^ its not even funny. I've made as many solid posts as you have but you and the other right wingers choose to dismiss cause you can't handle the truth.

Man, just put me on ignore would ya. I'd rather ya not read anything I have to say.



Crazy gun owners crack me up when they make comments like this.

Why do you or anyone need assualt weapons? Plan on starting a gang and getting into a gang war? I'm cool with people owning guns and support the 2nd Amendment but assault weapons are something nobody needs to own.
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I gotta just stay out of these threads. You've got the extreme on both sides and then god love him people like Carl who say both sides are bad but offer nothing other than that.

At least you say what you feel, Josh. Something has to be said about that.

 

[customizerwannabe]

So who's gonna win?

The ENTIRE world loses. That's becoming more evident by the day.

 

[The Ween]

Screw both of these losers. I'm voting for this guy.

Yeah! Vote for a guy who can fly!!!

 

[IrishJedi]

I gotta just stay out of these threads. You've got the extreme on both sides and then god love him people like Carl who say both sides are bad but offer nothing other than that.

What else do I really even need to "offer"? Where the middle ground is should be pretty apparent once the two extremes are highlighted. It just gets VERY old and annoying for those of us who are usually in the center.

It's like trying to drive a car on a long road trip and having two kids in the back seat who won't stop whining and screaming at each other. At some point you just want to pull over and tell them both to STFU so you can go on about getting where you need to go without all the senseless carping.

 

[turtlepower73]

i was thinking..

i was thinking as i watched these two political guys voicing there opinions as they try to convince me to vote for them for presidency. for me i want change. i don't one to see bushes policies continue. But then again i am not buying the milk and the cow that barrack obama is spilling because. i don't trust him..i think truthfully he is telling us just like all politicans what we want to here. so i say great 4 years of higher taxes. can that be so bad. because if democrats come into power and he messesup either way in the next election were either going to get another democrat or another republican..
remember change is not always so great. were going to get what were asking for and we might not like this change that is coming...

 

[The Ween]

Just finished watching.

Agreed, this debate was BORING.

The only thing I learned and was reassured about from this debate was that I want to do McCain's wife if 20 years younger. Shoot, I'll take 10 years younger. Who am I kidding, I want to be part of a Cindy McCain (-5 years)/Palin sandwich.

Okay, I wanna know what your taking so I can avoid it!

 

[customizerwannabe]

Ouch. I find that a bit rude honestly. I don't care for your views but I'm not going to say that I don't at least give you credit for believing the way you do. Wrong from my POV but you got a right to believe all the lies you want.

No post I've made has been more than jabs? Are you serious? Man, thats so much bull^^^^ its not even funny. I've made as many solid posts as you have but you and the other right wingers choose to dismiss cause you can't handle the truth.

Man, just put me on ignore would ya. I'd rather ya not read anything I have to say.



Crazy gun owners crack me up when they make comments like this.

Why do you or anyone need assualt weapons? Plan on starting a gang and getting into a gang war? I'm cool with people owning guns and support the 2nd Amendment but assault weapons are something nobody needs to own.
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I gotta just stay out of these threads. You've got the extreme on both sides and then god love him people like Carl who say both sides are bad but offer nothing other than that.

Do you even know what an assault weapon is? It's a joke. Flash supressor, retractable stock, larger clip. Not much different from a run of the mill AR-15 you can get any time. The banning of them was a joke. Made no difference in crime. Why? VERY few crimes committed used them. Mostly pistols and shotguns. They look cool but not much additional functionality. I had one. Cool looking novelty but not much more.

 

[The Ween]

Polls don't really mean much. Nobody will know the winner until the day after. Obama could go into election day with a 10 point lead and lose, because polling is inaccurate.

Right, and votes can come up missing, at least here in Ohio.

 

[Mesa]

I still value The Josh's opinion in regards to collectibles, movies, TV, pop culture, etc. Not so much politically, but what is good/bad in collectible world, I want to hear what he has to say. I can't say the same for the other, since no other post made by said person has been anything but political jabs.

Edit: Other = Barb

I was trying to avoid using names.

Ouch. I find that a bit rude honestly. I don't care for your views but I'm not going to say that I don't at least give you credit for believing the way you do. Wrong from my POV but you got a right to believe all the lies you want.

No post I've made has been more than jabs? Are you serious? Man, thats so much bull^^^^ its not even funny. I've made as many solid posts as you have but you and the other right wingers choose to dismiss cause you can't handle the truth.

Man, just put me on ignore would ya. I'd rather ya not read anything I have to say.

Man Josh, you must want to fight. Do I really have to explain this to you? I was tyring to give you a complement, but obviously you missed it. In case you didn't get it the first time, what I said, or meant to say was, "Even though I don't agree with The Josh's political viewpoint, I still value his opinion and comments in other areas. Barblilith, on the other hand, says nothing of any importance that I want to hear, so I finally had to break down and use the ignore feature." I think you assumed my entire post was referring to you, which wasn't the case, and you misunderstood.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Re: i was thinking..

With your lack of trust in the system, nothing good can ever happen. I know that politicians always seem slimy or untrustworthy, but to take yourself out of the game and not even try... it would be wrong.

Just study up on both of their actual policies, not the negative attacks against each other or any of that petty nonsense... and make an informed decision. Our country is destined for mediocrity if the people take themselves out of the process.

So educate yourself first before you start worrying that the sky may be falling. You will be happy you did.

 

[The Josh]

What else do I really even need to "offer"? Where the middle ground is should be pretty apparent once the two extremes are highlighted. It just gets VERY old and annoying for those of us who are usually in the center.

It's like trying to drive a car on a long road trip and having two kids in the back seat who won't stop whining and screaming at each other. At some point you just want to pull over and tell them both to STFU so you can go on about getting where you need to go without all the senseless carping.

Give some reasons why you feel the way you do. A bone if you will other than I hate both sides or they both suck. I find it equally annoying when people who are "supposedly" in the middle just ^^^^^ and then add nothing. What it looks like is you're griping to gripe.

Do you even know what an assault weapon is? It's a joke. Flash supressor, retractable stock, larger clip. Not much different from a run of the mill AR-15 you can get any time. The banning of them was a joke. Made no difference in crime. Why? VERY few crimes committed used them. Mostly pistols and shotguns.

Yes, I do. There is no reason to own them at all. They offer nothing other than some gun lovin redneck saying I own one. I know enough of them living in the MW so I can say that. Crimes are still committed with them so we should do what we can.

 

[The Josh]

Man Josh, you must want to fight. Do I really have to explain this to you? I was tyring to give you a complement, but obviously you missed it. In case you didn't get it the first time, what I said, or meant to say was, "Even though I don't agree with The Josh's political viewpoint, I still value his opinion and comments in other areas. Barblilith, on the other hand, says nothing of any importance that I want to hear, so I finally had to break down and use the ignore feature. I think you assumed my entire post was referring to you, which wasn't the case, and you misunderstood.

I took it as you meant me. So I apologize.

 

[Shai]

please Josh dont start up fights again.

 

[customizerwannabe]

Barblilith, on the other hand, says nothing of any importance that I want to hear,

 

[customizerwannabe]

Yes, I do. There is no reason to own them at all. They offer nothing other than some gun lovin redneck saying I own one. I know enough of them living in the MW so I can say that. Crimes are still committed with them so we should do what we can.

I'll agree that YOU shouldn't own one. Last time I checked it was still a somewhat free country.

 

[IrishJedi]

Do you even know what an assault weapon is? It's a joke. Flash supressor, retractable stock, larger clip. Not much different from a run of the mill AR-15 you can get any time. The banning of them was a joke. Made no difference in crime. Why? VERY few crimes committed used them. Mostly pistols and shotguns. They look cool but not much additional functionality. I had one. Cool looking novelty but not much more.

I don't think anyone should have a right to tell you what you can and cannot own in your own home anymore than I think anyone should legislate what a woman can and cannot do with her own body. Privacy is privacy and personal rights are personal rights, I say.

I'm not a big gun person myself. In fact, I'm just now looking to buy a handgun (for home protection). But after firing off an AR-15 at a friend's place recently I can see how some might get hooked. It's pretty fun. So, no, there is no NEED for an assault weapon and I certainly don't want a world like the Wild West where everyone is walking around with sidearms... but I don't see the need for a legislative ban on them, either.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I agree with Carl on this one, I don't think it should be illegal... just maybe have a few more legal hoops to have to jump to have a hardcore assault rifle.

I'm not for the loss of any rights at all.

 

[customizerwannabe]

I don't think anyone should have a right to tell you what you can and cannot own in your own home anymore than I think anyone should legislate what a woman can and cannot do with her own body. Privacy is privacy and personal rights and personal rights, I say.

I'm not a big gun person myself. In fact, I'm just now looking to by a handgun (for home protection). But after firing off an AR-15 at a friend's place recently I can see how some might get hooked. It's pretty fun. So, no, there is no NEED for an assault weapon and I certainly don't want a world like the Wild West where everyone is walking around with sidearms... but I don't see the need for a legislative ban on them, either.

Well put. AR's are a lot of fun to shoot targets with. You'll get more enjoyment from one than a handgun but both have their purposes.

 

[The Ween]

I have been hearing a lot of this from people. I am really suprised he didn't win since he seems to have a lot of loyal supporters. I said it before too, Romney as VP would have gotten Michigan and also he would have had a grasp on the economic crisis. I also agree I don't know how McCain beat Romney. I thought he did better in every GOP debate.

Because the GOP wanted McCain to win, just like the DNC wanted Obama too. There was alot of bs going on behind the scenes.

 

[customizerwannabe]

I agree with Carl on this one, I don't think it should be illegal... just maybe have a few more legal hoops to have to jump to have a hardcore assault rifle.

I'm not for the loss of any rights at all.

The thing is Josh, like I said, an assault rifle is basically cosmetics. It isn't automatic. It isn't concealable. They're more about looks than lethality.