Preview of PF Abomination is up

[Blackthornone]

Some serious drama queens in this thread..

Times like this make me happy that I'm me and not some dramatic ho..

Also doesnt a limited edition size make something FINITE like your point on gold?.

^^^^ SAYS WHAT?..

The limited edition collectibles are artificially finite. This is because they stop making them when production is still running and demand still exists. They can ALWAYS make more. No one is stopping them. You can't make more gold, unless you believe in alchemy. I heard it was possible to turn lead into gold with a whole roomful of lead to get just a speck of gold, but the lead costs more than the gold in that case. Something doesn't have to be made from expensive materials to be very valuable if it is a handmade original like the Mona Lisa. Paint and canvas isn't very expensive, but because it is hand made by a famous artist, it's worth a lot of money.
If something comes out of a mold, then you can make as many as you want, cheaply. This, in addition to the fact that they are made from plastic polystone means that they aren't inherently that valuable. If it was made from a mold and it was made from gold, platinum, copper, or bronze, then it would be inherently valuable. If it was hand sculpted and made of really inexpensive materials it could be very valuable. Inexpensively produced and inexpensive materials equates to a pretty low valued thing.

 

[occulum]

The limited edition collectibles are artificially finite. This is because they stop making them when production is still running and demand still exists. They can ALWAYS make more. No one is stopping them.

... actually this is stopping them ....

 

[Skiman]

"Because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."

They want to watch it burn in a oven...

Da Jonas and O'Hearn stuff is making me fall outta my chair!

 

[Blackthornone]

... actually this is stopping them ....

Not making something that people want and are willing to pay for is dumb. All of the people in the world trying to think of an idea for a product to invent or sell to make money and then someone who actually has one already decides they will just stop producing a profitable product. It's nonsensical.

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

Not making something that people want and are willing to pay for is dumb. All of the people in the world trying to think of an idea for a product to invent or sell to make money and then someone who actually has one already decides they will just stop producing a profitable product. It's nonsensical.

High ES killed the LoTR/Weta line.. High ES killed Weta..

Ever hear of supply and demand?..

Keep it hot not cold..

^^^^ SAYS WHAT?

 

[occulum]

Not making something that people want and are willing to pay for is dumb. All of the people in the world trying to think of an idea for a product to invent or sell to make money and then someone who actually has one already decides they will just stop producing a profitable product. It's nonsensical.

what if everybody and their brother learned to do what you do for a living and completely devalued you as an asset to your company by undercutting your pay rate (since EVEYBODY knows how to do your job now as good as you) and ultimately replaced you? .. and then you learned something new and it happend again ... and again ... and again ....
.... see the value in scarcity now?

 

[Blackthornone]

High ES killed the LoTR/Weta line.. High ES killed Weta..

Ever hear of supply and demand?..

Keep it hot not cold..

^^^^ SAYS WHAT?

As long as you produce something people want and make it affordable, they will buy it. Plain and simple. If you make something people want and price it too high, because you want to squeeze more money out of people or cause people to PERCEIVE it as being more valuable and hence desirable because of some snob factor, and you misjudge how many people will bite, then you won't sell as many as you make.

 

[Skiman]

Maybe there's a reason why this thread is title "Abomination"

 

[jbinny]

As long as you produce something people want and make it affordable, they will buy it. Plain and simple. If you make something people want and price it too high, because you want to squeeze more money out of people or cause people to PERCEIVE it as being more valuable and hence desirable because of some snob factor, and you misjudge how many people will bite, then you won't sell as many as you make.

Atually, they made it so expensive because Emil said so.

 

[Blackthornone]

what if everybody and their brother learned to do what you do for a living and completely devalued you as an asset to your company by undercutting your pay rate (since EVEYBODY knows how o do your hob now as good as you) and ultimately replaced you? .. and then you learned something new and it happend again ... and again ... and again ....
.... see the value in scarcity now?

We are talking about products that are under produced and overpriced. We aren't talking about peoples jobs.

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

My God, Just don't buy it and let the people who want to pay out thier nose for a limited overpriced product enjoy it..

 

[occulum]

do Kia buyers antagonize BMW dealers like this???

 

[jbinny]

do Kia buyers antagonize BMW dealers like this???

You would think that's the case.

The lesson learned here?

Don't be too poor or too rich and noone will hate you... I think

 

[Bonehead15]

I disagree. They should LOWER prices considerably and make MORE, to sell more, for an overall greater company profit. Once people buy them, how much these are worth on the secondary market is irrelevant to them, just like it is to all manufacturers. A lot more people would buy their products if they lowered their prices, but they don't because they're just too damn expensive to afford.

That makes no sense at all.

Dropping the es only increases the want for people who aren't really excited about these in the first place. " Ehh, its a pretty nice statue, but I'm not sure I want to pay this much money... Oh? It's super rare? Well, then even though I wasn't really sure I wanted one of these, now that I know they are rare, I want to make sure I get one now, even though I'm not REALLY sure I want one, just to make sure I get one, and to make myself more "SPECIAL" and "important" because I have a rare plastic statue, as if somehow that will make my life more special. " Right.

Obviously, if you make less of something, you need to increase price to help offset the less profit caused by the lower production. The fact is, though,that things become cheaper to make the more you maker of them, and so the more that are made, the less they will cost, and thus the more SS will sell, because they are more affordable, and thus SS will ultimately make more money. This will help them to make more items that people want. I think that's a better situation.

High end art is the Mona Lisa, or a Van Gogh. A lot of signed lithographs of paintings cost 20 grand in a gallery. I agree that it's art, but it's only a high end item compared to most other COMIC BOOK items, which were originally intended as children's entertainment. Don't misunderstand me. I really love these comic characters, and I really appreciate the craftsmanship involved in making these, but these are PLASTIC statues, not sculpted marble, solid gold, or even hand carved wood layered in gold leaf. BTW, there is only one GRAIL, which is the Holy Grail, which was the cup that Christ drank from at the Last Supper, which the general public doesn't even SEEN before. Let's get some perspective, here.

If you wanna buy cheap PLASTIC comic book pieces buy Hasbro not Sideshow.

This is high end art.. You sound like a doll collector

Raising prices weeds guys like this out ^^

I'm all for it.. And yes some of my peices do have gold rubies ect inlaid in them..

yeah ... just check out how good WETA Kong products are doing after the insanely high ES on everything. Im sure all the collectors that paid around or near the initial $500msrp just LOVE seeing it not selling for even $150 now...
... and on top of that how wary collectors were of the pieces they put out post Kong because of those inflated ES's

... I think many are forgetting that a crucial part in collecting is this thing called "value".
You want to destroy the value of everything just so you can have evertyhing .... thats destroying the hobby just to fulfill your own selfish wants ...

 

[The Ringer]

This thread is on fire......................

 

[FeatheredSerpent]

This thread is on fire......................

I guess that's what happens when you live in the LOTR threads for to long...

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

Produce more and everyone wins!!

In this case I totaly agree w/ overproduction..

 

[The Ringer]

I guess that's what happens when you live in the LOTR threads for to long...

Peaceful folk we are.

 

[Blackthornone]

That makes no sense at all.







If you wanna buy cheap PLASTIC comic book pieces buy Hasbro not Sideshow.

Why does it make no sense? Do you know for a fact that the items cost a lot to make? Whatever you make, only the production costs and the shipping costs change. I have a feeling that Abomination could be sold for $150 and still make a profit.

Both Harbro and Sideshow pieces are made of plastic. The main difference is sculpting. I seriously doubt that the Sideshow pieces really cost much more to make than Hasbro's, once the molds are made, other than the fact that they make so few.

 

[The Ringer]

Both Harbro and Sideshow pieces are made of plastic. The main difference is sculpting. I seriously doubt that the Sideshow pieces really cost much more to make than Hasbro's, once the molds are made, other than the fact that they make so few.

Those two should never be in the same sentence. The main difference is not sculpting.