Prometheus Sequel (ALIEN: Covenant)

[BetterThanKenobi83]

I'm surprised at the box office reaction, it seemed to me as if this was going to be a popular movie. As many nit picks as I have with this and Prometheus I'd still like another to be made in a way to bring some closure to everything.

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I think the reason of the huge drop off is the ending really. Yes, Alien 3 had a similar ending in tone but before that the whole film itself was a hell ride of despair and staring down the barrel of certain death for Ripley.

Now Covenant's ending I think needed to be happier and more ' closed ' than what we got. I think a lot of fans got ticked off more than the studio realised.

 

[theuzi9mm]

I think the reason of the huge drop off is the ending really. Yes, Alien 3 had a similar ending in tone but before that the whole film itself was a hell ride of despair and staring down the barrel of certain death for Ripley.

Now Covenant's ending I think needed to be happier and more ' closed ' than what we got. I think a lot of fans got ticked off more than the studio realised.

I personally wasn't ticked off by the ending, I just thought the entire movie on the whole had lots of pacing and overall story issues. I read that there were over 20 mins cut from the movie, you can tell. I can only hope that the cut footage comes out on the dvd release. I can take a downer ending movie but Covenant just failed to really draw me into the movie and overall story. Anything remotely interesting was rushed and seemingly dropped. I knew about Shaw going in and knew about the 'twist' ending (as if you could not guess at that outcome). It was just a poorly made, written and directed film. That's why it's tanking at the box office.

 

[Bravomite]

The ending didn't bother me as it was so blatantly telegraphed and I just didn't really care about Daniels or Tennessee (or the other many faceless colonists frozen in hypersleep). If anything I was glad that Fassy won the day haha.

Betterthankenobi I do get your point though, when the credits rolled the audience in my screening were really muted and seemed deflated ... nobody was talking about the film as they left the cinema.

Theuzi9mm completely agree with your comments. The movie felt like the editor had taken a hacksaw to it, cutting out scenes in a bid to reduce the run time and make the movie move along at a faster pace. I can only imagine that this was at detriment to overall flow of the movie and Scott's vision. I still would like to have seen what happened to the second neomorph as I kept waiting for it to be pop up again during the film (apparently it gets killed by the protomorph). I swear there are two members of the covenant crew that just disappeared and we never saw what happened to them. I imagine scenes of character development were cut and longer tension building scenes were trimmed. Scott's directors cut blu-ray release in about 10 years from now will be probably be quite a solid movie.

 

[screamingmetal]

I think the reason of the huge drop off is the ending really. Yes, Alien 3 had a similar ending in tone but before that the whole film itself was a hell ride of despair and staring down the barrel of certain death for Ripley.

Now Covenant's ending I think needed to be happier and more ' closed ' than what we got. I think a lot of fans got ticked off more than the studio realised.

I think the movie did poorly because it was a violent gruesome horror movie at the beginning of the summer movie season. People just aren't in the mood for a horror movie at the moment. Parents also just had to take their kids to see GOTG 2, I doubt they'd be eager to run back to the cinema to watch Covenant. Had this come out during the Halloween movie season, I think it would've done better.
Prometheus was less gruesome and didn't seem like your typical horror movie so I think it worked better when it was released during the same time period.

 

[theuzi9mm]

This is a good read, many points have been mentioned

https://www.alien-covenant.com/news/why-alien-covenant-has-flopped

 

[Snake Plissken]

Just finished watching it. Glad I didn't waste money on admission on this. It was a snore.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Just finished watching it. Glad I didn't waste money on admission on this. It was a snore.

...

 

[jye4ever]

I bet Fox is regreting supporting Ridley now.

From Blomkamp:

Blomkamp was also asked whether he is completely done with his Alien 5 concept. “I think it’s totally dead, yes. That would be an accurate assumption at this point. It’s sad. I spent a long time working on that, and I feel like it was really pretty awesome. But politically, the way it’s gone now, and the way that it all is — it’s just not going to live.”


He clarified he was talking about studio politics. “Ridley [Scott] was one of my idols growing up. He’s so talented and he’s made this film that really set me off in a direction. I want to just be as respectful and not go stamping around in this world that he created. I think that if the circumstances were different, and I didn’t feel like I was getting too close to something that he obviously feels a massive personal connection to, that things that may have played out differently. But I did want to be as respectful as possible.”

 

[Wor-Gar]

He's being coy now to increase Fox's $$ offer to him, if it comes.



Fox: we'll give you 1M + a 65M budget.

Blomkamp: But its dead, I just couldn't do that to Ridley.

Fox: OK, how about 2M + a 85M budget, first cut.

Blomkamp: I couldn't, really. It's dead.

Fox: 2M + bonus after breakeven + 115M budget, first cut + re-cut.

Blomkamp: ...and what about merchandise...?

 

[jye4ever]

No way in hell will Fox allow Ridley to make another one after this box office disaster.

Snikt might be right, Blomkamp to the rescue.

 

[crows]

He's being coy now to increase Fox's $$ offer to him, if it comes.

he be like

 

[Wor-Gar]

Fox may actually give Alien a break and see how Predator does. If it performs in the slightest, that's where alien money goes -- to the ShanePredator sequel.

 

[spindrift]

No way in hell will Fox allow Ridley to make another one after this box office disaster.

Snikt might be right, Blomkamp to the rescue.

No I don't see another Alien movie period. It's all dried up now. Wait ten years and maybe another try...



on HBO or Netflix?????????????

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah more than likely that will be the case.

Although studios do love gambling, horrible addiction.

 

[crows]

Yeah more than likely that will be the case.

Although studios do love gambling, horrible addiction.

Tax cuts ( or something) like in the movie the producers

 

[theuzi9mm]

IF this really is getting green lit, it really sounds as if Ridley is just waffling and really doesn't have a CLUE what to do with this franchise.

https://www.alien-covenant.com/news...nfirms-engineers-return-alien-covenant-sequel

He's gone from saying the beast is dead, to Prometheus was a mistake, to here's your beast to we don't need no stinkin engineers to oh here the engineers are back.

Obviously bowing to fan related pressure but still, it just reeks of misguidedness now. Even Ridley doesn't know wtf to do....Fox just wants people in the theatres.....Domestically this thing sunk faster than the Titanic, and China is the only thing which bumped the foreign take to 140MM with 29MM but it'll probably fall fast. So globally it barely broke even but domestically it was a turd and a half....

Ridley just put the pencil and camera down please.....

 

[RIDDICK]

sounds as if Ridley is just waffling and really doesn't have a CLUE what to do with this franchise.

I knew it befire I was even born.

 

[crows]

he truly became George Lucas, I never thought that could be possible today

 

[Snake Plissken]

"There will be three or four different players coming in to investigate. One of which will be the Engineers arriving back to find their planet decimated. I think those ships come and go on regular intervals. I see them as the gardeners of space.

Where we go next is obvious. We’re gonna actually go to the planet."

 

[Khev]

Lucas, Scott, Cameron, Jackson. Many similarities with what they all became after rising to the top of their profession.