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Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

Relax. Sit back for a few days and wait. UK and EU retailers are being negotiated now. Us UK/EU lot will shout once QMx have a retailer lined up for exclusives etc. It will happen. Just wait. I'm not ordering from the US.

Hi Astra,

QMx are definitely going to be working with international sellers.

Now as a heads up, do not panic. I am not sure about Germany but I have been asked to distribute in the UK including Exclusive versions. To ship within the EU there is no custom charges so as a last resort and if nothing is sorted for Germany just give me an email and I will help you the best I can.

Do not worry :wink1:

Thank you both ;) *takes deep breath*
UK will be absolutely fine. I have good experience with ordering from Big Chief Studios. As long as the UK doesn't leave the EU before Kirk and Spock are shipping ;)
And with extras even you say? Splendid! QMX are very nice in listening to their customers like that.

This is probably not the right place to say but I only started to watch (and became a fan of) TOS about a year ago, can you believe it? I'm so glad I came just in time for the anniversary and all the amazing things happening this year, including these figures.
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

Can one cancel a BBTS pre-order when something better (local) comes along? Will there be cancellation fees?
If you're still wondering (and if no one else answered already), they've never charged me for canceling a preorder, even when I canceled days before an item was in stock. :)
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

$179.99 at BBTS now. Glad I preordered yesterday at the lower price.
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

Preorders are easy to cancel at BBTS. Simply go to your account, click on 'view preorders', and change your quantity to '0'.

Simple as that, and no, you won't be charged anything.
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

Color looks fine to me. no mass produced 1/6 figure from any company will ever be 100% accurate to the actual person and outfit, as long as it's close i'm happy.

Agreed. The shirt might have had a more purplish hue on screen, but the color they've gone with still works perfectly well I think. And it does looks pretty close to the color in these shots:


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Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

$179.99 at BBTS now. Glad I preordered yesterday at the lower price.

That's the same price they had listed originally as SRP, which was scratched out with a special sale price for early-birds.
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

If you're still wondering (and if no one else answered already), they've never charged me for canceling a preorder, even when I canceled days before an item was in stock. :)

Preorders are easy to cancel at BBTS. Simply go to your account, click on 'view preorders', and change your quantity to '0'.

Simple as that, and no, you won't be charged anything.

Thank you very much! For now I'll go with Aaron's advice and wait for the EU retailers, but it's good to know as a back-up plan or for the future.
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

A little back ground of the "road" I took to do these figures:

Primary target audience: Star Trek Fans (not figure collectors)
Research areas and process:
Uniforms: deep and many months of discussion with The Admirable at The StarTrek Uniform Club. Robert Fletcher, and William Theiss personal notes were also consulted.

Findings:
Season 2:
Because the fabric used, Velour, has the tendency to shrink (Watch Season 2: All uniforms were tight and too short)
Spock had 3 uniforms in Season 2, all have different colors because the dye fades every time when they wash them.
Conclusion: Season 1 and 2 were not the true representation of what Roddenberry. (They were on very low budget, couldn't afford to redo the uniforms in season 2. They laid off Yeoman and even want to lay off Uhura.) Then in season 3: More money came-in. They remade all the uniforms. Note: the uniform also began to fade after the forth episode.
Further Conclusion, first 3 episodes are the best representation of what Roddenberry and Theiss intended.

Beside having the above conclusions, I also noticed the followings based on my observation:

Color TV just came about in the 60s. Picture tubes were not at their prime.
The light source and the surrounding colors of the TV set would greatly affect the color perceptions.
Everyone have a different TV.
Therefore, everyone had their own perceptions.

To support my findings, I did 4 surveys, randomly picking ST Fans at Star Trek Las Vegas Convention in 2013 to find out their opinions in 4 areas:
uniform colors (specifically the commanding and science department colors),
ideal Kirk and Spock portrait.
50 screen caps were taken from those 3 season episodes for each of these 4 surveys.
In the uniform color survey, 50 randomly picked Star Trek fans had 35 different choices of the Blue uniforms, and out of these 35 choices more than half chose Season 3 Blue. This Science blue is the blue that I am using now.

The above applies to Kirk likeness too. Why Shatner is so hard to capture? My conclusion, most artists would use "a lot" of different screen caps. Mr Shatner changes his body weight every 2-3 episodes. To remedy this, we use only one specific episode to gauge Kirk likeness. Same thing applies to Spock's ear; he used 4-5 sets of ears, all different.

Anyway, if you have the recently released "Star Trek Costumes" by Paula M Block and Terry Erdmann, you will find my findings were supported by this book.

Since everyone has a different idea of ST TOS, the best way to go about doing this project is to follow Roddenberry's idea (Again, note my primary audience are Trek fans)

The above is the simplified version of my road map of my research.
Also, do note that Roddenberry wants Commanding Green, NOT Gold, and do note that "EVERY" Trek fans have their own individual idea of Star Trek TOS.

Side note: I went through a similar process with the phasers, tricorders, and Communicators. Each of these items had more than 4 versions. Which one is right? All are right. So I decided to use Season 3 prop (based on my assumption that TOS had more money to spend in Season 3).

My suggestion for getting "Individual" desired Science Blue is to do some Post-purchase customizing by soaking the blue uniform in really Hot Water. The color of the uniform will fade. With careful control of the process, one can achieve individual desired color (fading) as in the later parts of Season 3.
 
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Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

A little back ground of the "road" I took to do these figures:

Primary target audience: Star Trek Fans (not figure collectors)
Research areas and process:
Uniforms: deep and many months of discussion with The Admirable at The StarTrek Uniform Club. Robert Fletcher, and William Theiss personal notes were also consulted.

Findings:
Season 2:
Because the fabric used, Velour, has the tendency to shrink (Watch Season 2: All uniforms were tight and too short)
Spock had 3 uniforms in Season 2, all have different colors because the dye fades every time when they wash them.
Conclusion: Season 1 and 2 were not the true representation of what Roddenberry. (They were on very low budget, couldn't afford to redo the uniforms in season 2. They laid off Yeoman and even want to lay off Uhura.) Then in season 3: More money came-in. They remade all the uniforms. Note: the uniform also began to fade after the forth episode.
Further Conclusion, first 3 episodes are the best representation of what Roddenberry and Theiss intended.

Beside having the above conclusions, I also noticed the followings based on my observation:

Color TV just came about in the 60s. Picture tubes were not at their prime.
The light source and the surrounding colors of the TV set would greatly affect the color perceptions.
Everyone have a different TV.
Therefore, everyone had their own perceptions.

To support my findings, I did 4 surveys, randomly picking ST Fans at Star Trek Las Vegas Convention in 2013 to find out their opinion in 4 areas:
uniform colors (specifically the commanding and science department colors),
ideal Kirk and Spock portrait.
50 screen caps were taken from those 3 season episodes for each of these 4 surveys.
In the uniform color survey, 50 randomly picked Star Trek fans had 35 different choices of the Blue uniforms, and out of these 35 choices more than half chose Season 3 Blue. This Science blue is the blue that I am using now.

The above applies to Kirk likeness too. Why Shatner is so hard to capture? My conclusion, most artists would use "a lot" of different screen caps. Mr Shatner changes his body weight every 2-3 episodes. To remedy this, we use only one specific episode to gauge Kirk likeness. Same thing applies to Spock's ear; he used 4-5 sets of ears, all different.

Anyway, if you have the recently released "Star Trek Costumes" by Paula M Block and Terry Erdmann, you will find my findings were supported by this book.

Since everyone has a different idea of ST TOS, the best way to go about doing this project is to follow Roddenberry's idea (Again, note my primary audience are Trek fans)

The above is the simplified version of my road map of my research.
Also, do note that Roddenberry wants Commanding Green, NOT Gold, and do note that "EVERY" Trek fans have their own individual idea of Star Trek TOS.

Side note: I went through a similar process with the phasers, tricorders, and Communicators. Each of these items had more than 4 versions. Which one is right? All are right. So I decided to use Season 3 prop (based on my assumption that TOS had more money to spend in Season 3).

Very interesting read, thanks for the share. They look fantastic!
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

$159 was up for a day maybe.
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

A little back ground of the "road" I took to do these figures:

Now everyone knows how the sausage is made. You shouldn't feel the need to explain yourself in so much detail, the figures look great. I'd have only done one thing different... with all due respect to the sculptor of Spock, I would have had Inigo do both portraits. Ok, two things... I'd also have commissioned a McCoy to make a trio. :)
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

Now everyone knows how the sausage is made. You shouldn't feel the need to explain yourself in so much detail, the figures look great. I'd have only done one thing different... with all due respect to the sculptor of Spock, I would have had Inigo do both portraits. Ok, two things... I'd also have commissioned a McCoy to make a trio. :)
We all know what great work Inigo does, but I doubt he would have improved on these IMO.
Now everyone knows how the sausage is made. You shouldn't feel the need to explain yourself in so much detail, the figures look great. I'd have only done one thing different... with all due respect to the sculptor of Spock, I would have had Inigo do both portraits. Ok, two things... I'd also have commissioned a McCoy to make a trio. :)
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

We all know what great work Inigo does, but I doubt he would have improved on these IMO.

The Kirk is Inigo's, I would have preferred both sculpts be from the same artist, even if only for greater consistency.
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

The Kirk is Inigo's, I would have preferred both sculpts be from the same artist.
Ah, well, I'm sure if you ask nicely he'd do one for you ;)
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

I have only had one instance where the price went up after I pre-ordered and I still got the price at which I ordered.

Thanks rjszar. I just logged into my BBTS account and it still shows the pre-order price of $159.99 :D
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

A little back ground of the "road" I took to do these figures:

Primary target audience: Star Trek Fans (not figure collectors)
Research areas and process:
Uniforms: deep and many months of discussion with The Admirable at The StarTrek Uniform Club. Robert Fletcher, and William Theiss personal notes were also consulted.

Findings:
Season 2:
Because the fabric used, Velour, has the tendency to shrink (Watch Season 2: All uniforms were tight and too short)
Spock had 3 uniforms in Season 2, all have different colors because the dye fades every time when they wash them.
Conclusion: Season 1 and 2 were not the true representation of what Roddenberry. (They were on very low budget, couldn't afford to redo the uniforms in season 2. They laid off Yeoman and even want to lay off Uhura.) Then in season 3: More money came-in. They remade all the uniforms. Note: the uniform also began to fade after the forth episode.
Further Conclusion, first 3 episodes are the best representation of what Roddenberry and Theiss intended.

Beside having the above conclusions, I also noticed the followings based on my observation:

Color TV just came about in the 60s. Picture tubes were not at their prime.
The light source and the surrounding colors of the TV set would greatly affect the color perceptions.
Everyone have a different TV.
Therefore, everyone had their own perceptions.

To support my findings, I did 4 surveys, randomly picking ST Fans at Star Trek Las Vegas Convention in 2013 to find out their opinions in 4 areas:
uniform colors (specifically the commanding and science department colors),
ideal Kirk and Spock portrait.
50 screen caps were taken from those 3 season episodes for each of these 4 surveys.
In the uniform color survey, 50 randomly picked Star Trek fans had 35 different choices of the Blue uniforms, and out of these 35 choices more than half chose Season 3 Blue. This Science blue is the blue that I am using now.

The above applies to Kirk likeness too. Why Shatner is so hard to capture? My conclusion, most artists would use "a lot" of different screen caps. Mr Shatner changes his body weight every 2-3 episodes. To remedy this, we use only one specific episode to gauge Kirk likeness. Same thing applies to Spock's ear; he used 4-5 sets of ears, all different.

Anyway, if you have the recently released "Star Trek Costumes" by Paula M Block and Terry Erdmann, you will find my findings were supported by this book.

Since everyone has a different idea of ST TOS, the best way to go about doing this project is to follow Roddenberry's idea (Again, note my primary audience are Trek fans)

The above is the simplified version of my road map of my research.
Also, do note that Roddenberry wants Commanding Green, NOT Gold, and do note that "EVERY" Trek fans have their own individual idea of Star Trek TOS.

Side note: I went through a similar process with the phasers, tricorders, and Communicators. Each of these items had more than 4 versions. Which one is right? All are right. So I decided to use Season 3 prop (based on my assumption that TOS had more money to spend in Season 3).

My suggestion for getting "Individual" desired Science Blue is to do some Post-purchase customizing by soaking the blue uniform in really Hot Water. The color of the uniform will fade. With careful control of the process, one can achieve individual desired color (fading) as in the later parts of Season 3.


A picture speaks a thousand words:

spock-2.jpg

You have chosen a colour that resembles no screen-used prop I can find and is consistently rejected by other manufacturers putting out Spock merchandise. Again, the fact Anovos, in particular, has chosen a fundamentally different blue is a big problem.

Mezco, Anovos, and professionally staged prop-auction photos all reasonably match the HD image. Any of those blues would be fine.

Yes, you have a lengthy list of research, but you end up admitting what you are really doing is chasing a prop ideal from the first three episodes. I think the skants (man-dresses) on TNG shows the limits of Gene Roddenberry's vision as a defining truth. Also look how the costume designers conspicuously moved away from his original designs for seasons 3 through 7.

I think people here are reluctant to criticize you, which is understandable. But this isn't a personal project on the boards any more, it is a licensed QMx release. I'm giving what I view as constructive feedback because I think you will get the most sales matching what Star Trek fans and other manufacturers perceive, which is a much paler blue.
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

A picture speaks a thousand words

The problem is that photos in the wrong hands speak only lies. We have no assurances that any of the sample images are accurate in the least, no information about lighting nor white balance of the cameras used. That HD screen shot of Spock I can guarantee you is not indicative of what the scene looked like in person on that day - it should be obvious to anyone that it doesn't represent any kind of reality.

So the reluctance to criticize you speak of may just be that most people think the chosen color is acceptable. The fabric choice/weave bothers me infinitely more than the colors and it's still in my range of acceptable compromise.
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

Wow...just, wow...[emoji15]
 
Re: Quantum Mechanix 1/6 Star Trek The Original Series Kirk and Spock

My friends why the price is different from Toyark announcement ($159) in BBTS pre-order site ($179)? Maybe it's a full version? Are there two versions?
 
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